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PS3 is a piece of unko...
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nofilter said:
No actual hate, just frustration. Both of the other two companies don't require the same level of jumping through hoops to get something as simple as a firmware update. And yes, I've had way more updates than you have. It seems as if every step of the process has been made more difficult with no eye to the extra work and frustration it causes the end-user.
dammitmattt
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nofilter said:
Exactly one of my points.
InterMoniker
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ExactlyAniHawk said:
dammitmattt said:
Well boo F-ing Hoo...
Kill?.............. Whoa!dammitmattt said:
:lolPristine_Condition
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M3Freak said:
Good point M3.
I wonder how many of the people here bitching about having to get up off the couch and plug in a controller every month or two are the same people that said that the prospect of getting off the couch to change DVD9 discs every few hours would be no big deal? :lol
dammitmattt
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Pristine_Condition said:
Because so many games are multiple discs.
Segata Sanshiro
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I wonder how many people that don't browse internet forums know you're supposed to plug the controller in? I don't have a PS3 yet, does it say on-screen to plug it in, or in the manual somewhere?
dammitmattt
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Segata Sanshiro said:
It tells you to plug it in at a certain point in the process. Very annoying and there is really no reason for it.
Again, why do people keep saying that the controller itself is being updated? That's just asinine for a number of reasons.
Pristine_Condition
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dammitmattt said:
Duh.
You don't understand what the word "prospect" means in my sentence?
Coin Return
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Yaaay! All is right with the world!Vieo said:
Kittonwy said:
Because it's a pain in the butt. Not a huge pain in the butt, but a continuing, simple to fix, shouldn't have been there in the first place pain in the butt. Unless you're willing to concede that Sony programmers and engineers are just dumber than Nintendo and MS programmers and engineers, then there's no good excuse for it.
It didn't stop me from buying a PS3 or playing it, but it does cause frustration every time it happens. Because it should have never been set up like that. There's no reasonable rational for it other than a) bad bluetooth implmentation or b) poor UI design. Same goes for the damn EULAs.
Every company but Sony got it close to right, so why does Sony get a free pass, exactly? I complain about the iffy controls on the Wii (especially with a chair eight feet away from the screen), the Wii's inability to autoupdate itself even though that was supposed to be the entire point of 24Connect. I complain about the 360's atrocious failure rate and sometimes about their ass-raping Live policies, so again, why does Sony get a free ride?
My suggestion? If you don't like hearing people discuss the negatives of the consoles they own, you might want to stay out of threads that are clearly not going to be positive.
Mustaphadamus
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did you purchase a extended warranty? If so I say trade in time.BioFan said:
I did this update last night. The first thing that crossed my mind when the update asked me to plug in the controller was; oh shit I hope I can find the cable. So from what I've read here is if you don't have the cable or your controller does't work and you turn off the PS3 or your PS3 gets turned off via power failure in your home, your're hosed. If the controller is being updated why not just have the firmware update, update the system and later update the controller when it's connected? The update sequnce in it's current state seems to be poorly designed.
besada said:
If you don't like hearing people call your opinion stupid, then don't say it.
By the way, having to plug in your PS3 controller while the system is updating is really not that big of a deal. It's not annoying. Skipping past the EULA takes about 1.5 seconds.
Unless you're immobile and can't get out of bed to plug in the controller, I don't see why this is something to complain about. Especially when the updates add a ton of new features.
Oh, and if you lost your cable... well... :lol I really don't know what to say. Don't lose stuff?
UntoldDreams
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The single most retarded part of this thread is that the topic posters PS3 was probably always malfunctioning and he should have sent it in awhile ago.
His experience Is not representative of most people's experience or we'd be inundated with posts about the update failing due to controller and this would most certainly explode everywhere.
CLEARLY THIS GUY HAS BAD HARDWARE but its sad to see so many people take this as an opportunity to whine and moan that they hate this or hate that.
His experience Is not representative of most people's experience or we'd be inundated with posts about the update failing due to controller and this would most certainly explode everywhere.
CLEARLY THIS GUY HAS BAD HARDWARE but its sad to see so many people take this as an opportunity to whine and moan that they hate this or hate that.
KTallguy said:
Well, I just assume people like you are imbeciles, so I'll disregard your advice, thanks.
I'm not the one whinging about people discussing the problems with the PS3 firmware updates in a thread about PS3 frimware update problems.
Do you work for Sony? Does it somehow offend you that some people don't believe they've done a perfect job with the PS3?
If you want to have a thread where you get together with like minded people and discuss how wonderful the PS3 is, and how it has no imperfections, and how anyone who says anything negative about it is a horrible mean man, then why don't you start your own thread.
This thread is about discussing the problems with firmware updates, which include the stupid programming of having to plug in your controller.
UntoldDreams said:
No, what's sad is seeing a bunch of people swarm a thread attempting to defend a multimillion dollar company that genuinely doesn't need their help. Get it through your head that we can like the PS3 without thinking it's perfect, and that there's nothing wrong with a consumer pointing out the flaws in a device that he has purchased.
oldschoolpinball
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Mar_ said:
sweet jeebus:lol
UntoldDreams
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besada said:
I still don't draw the parallels between helping the topic poster with his problem and your opportunistic complaining but hey... I bet it makes you feel better so its not a total loss.
Your well being and personal happiness is extremely important to GAF.
besada said:
They're called priorities. If something like that is a top priority for you then' don't buy the console, but for most people - having to plug in USB cable into their controller every couple of months isn't that big of a deal.
There is nothing wrong with finding faults in the system, but it's just silly to blow the importance of it out of proportion.
Woo-Fu
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They make you plug in the controller to remove a variable from the process. Makes plenty of sense to me. I've yet to hear of anybody bricking a ps3(or a psp), when they follow the procedure properly.
I don't really understand why people have a problem with plugging in their controllers. Do you guys have a stack of disposable controllers that you just throw away when they run out of charge? The rest of us have to plug our controllers in periodically to recharge them, so plugging them in for an update isn't exactly a new challenge. :lol
Lastly, if you don't want console updates, you don't want next generation. That covers quite a bit of modern consumer electronics, not just consoles.
They make you plug in the controller to remove a variable from the process. Makes plenty of sense to me. I've yet to hear of anybody bricking a ps3(or a psp), when they follow the procedure properly.
I don't really understand why people have a problem with plugging in their controllers. Do you guys have a stack of disposable controllers that you just throw away when they run out of charge? The rest of us have to plug our controllers in periodically to recharge them, so plugging them in for an update isn't exactly a new challenge. :lol
Lastly, if you don't want console updates, you don't want next generation. That covers quite a bit of modern consumer electronics, not just consoles.
Core407 said:
We're not blowing it out of proportion. We're saying it was poorly done and should be remedied. I don't remember seeing anyone saying they weren't going to buy a PS3 because of it, because most of the people who are complaining about it already own a PS3. I didn't hear a call for Kutaragi's head, or promises of bruning down the Sony building. I heard a handful of people saying that it sucked and they wish Sony would fix it.
You are blowing it out of proportion by feeling the need to swoop into a thread that was obviously about problems with the PS3 and start arguing with people giving their opinions on the issue. You are welcome to think it's not a problem. No one's asking you to be irritated by it. You on the other hand are telling other users what to be irritated by.
Which one of us is being unreasonable again?
Miniboss1232
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What I find interesting is that everyone's talking about how the original poster is so stupid because he didn't plug in the controller...
But in the original post, he states that he tried both of his controllers when he followed the on-screen prompts.
SonyGAF is on a roll.
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Also, if the Sony fans here don't want to be viewed as the new "Nintendo fanboys" of this generation, I would think they should start actually helping those people who DO have problems with the PS3 (because clearly it's perfect), and not bashing everyone who claims to have some minor problem with the system.
It's going to be an interesting 10 years indeed.
But in the original post, he states that he tried both of his controllers when he followed the on-screen prompts.
SonyGAF is on a roll.
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Also, if the Sony fans here don't want to be viewed as the new "Nintendo fanboys" of this generation, I would think they should start actually helping those people who DO have problems with the PS3 (because clearly it's perfect), and not bashing everyone who claims to have some minor problem with the system.
It's going to be an interesting 10 years indeed.
Joe Molotov
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What's unko?
UntoldDreams
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besada said:
Umm... actually that's not what he said. Shouldn't you at least read what his problem was?
UntoldDreams
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Joe Molotov said:
It's Japanese for "crap".
Salmonax said:
As has been said, it's merely a precaution and makes the entire process of upgrading the firmware much safer, so I really don't see why one would choose to make the process more risky and risk a bricked system just to keep from having to plug in the control the one time you need to upgrade the firmware every now and then.
UntoldDreams said:
I was paraphrasing for brevity, assuming that others had read the original post instead of just swarming on any negative Sony comment. Silly me.
His PS3 will not recognize his controllers after the update, making it impossible for him to push the PS button post-update. Which is a significant design flaw.
I guess I'll return my ps3 at bestbuy and prob upgrade it to the 60G (since they dont have the 20G anymore). But so how would you guys normally update your firmware? I usually download, install and then when the "plug in ur controller with USB cable" screen comes up, then I plug it in. Isnt that the right way to do?
unko is japanese word for the original word I used...I think
unko is japanese word for the original word I used...I think
Vetteboy98
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Does anyone even know WHY it is required to plug in the controller to complete the download? Is it a security check reason?
Also - They moved the menu prompts around a bit. The "turn off system" is now where the "turn off controller" sync used to be. If you do not read the menu and just press the button from habit - it will knock your controller off - lol
Also - They moved the menu prompts around a bit. The "turn off system" is now where the "turn off controller" sync used to be. If you do not read the menu and just press the button from habit - it will knock your controller off - lol