Same here! Especially KH2. Played that four times in a row at launch.
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[PS3] New Kingdom Hearts HD Screenshots
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Same here! Especially KH2. Played that four times in a row at launch.
Electivirus
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I prefer the series on handhelds, but I certainly won't say no to an HD port. I'm eager to see if it can change my feelings on the first game, which I didn't feel had aged very well the last time I played (which was around a year ago).
badcrumble
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I'm pretty damn excited too. Especially looking forward to a console-playable version of BBS. Best game in the series by far.
The camera changes alone make it a must buy for me. That fix should make the game much more pleasant.
He really doesn't. The series has been maintained on hand-held for so long because he ultimately doesn't know how to make a brand-new (as in more than a fan-milking HD port) KH on PS3 that can live up to the expectations. Yep.
R10Neymarfan
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Rerecording some tracks (Some of the tracks had a soundfont in there and the PS2 used it's midi chip) Now the tracks will be fully orchestrated. Days soundtrack will be fully orchestrated now too.
5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound confirmed.
badcrumble
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Triangle to execute special commands and summon being moved to the bottom should do a LOT to cut down on menu navigation during combat, too. I'm just hoping they also add more spell shortcuts and/or the ability to have items on shortcut. Two shortcuts are pretty much always taken up by Curaga and Aeroga in the endgame, plus one offensive spell; it'd be nice to have Elixir on shortcut, or tactical spells like Graviga and Stopga, and so on.
Electivirus
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The changes specific to the HD port along with the stuff that was already introduced in Final Mix should hopefully make this much more bearable to play than vanilla KH1.
That's my hope, yeah. Vanilla KH1 is a drag.
AuthenticM
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What changes are there exactly ?
R10Neymarfan
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-Combo Master and Exp Zero abilities
-Critical Mode?
-Updated high textures and models
-Remastered Soundtrack (In 5.1 dolby digital surround)
-Final Mix Extras
-Camera mapped to R3 stick
-Menu switch to KH2 (Reaction Commands)
-Cutscenes are in there original 16x9 aspect ratio rather then black bars; Gameplay has been extended to 16x9
-Apparently (1440x810p30 w/ 2xMSAA, 1280x720p30 w/ 4xMSAA)
-Ability to switch between Japanese and English voices (Hopefully ability to switch text and other languages are available)
-Trophy support
That's it I think aside from the 3 hour 358/2 Days movie and RE:COM
Damn, was hoping for uncompressed 5.1 at least.
badcrumble
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I wonder if they'll make AP Ups easier to obtain because of those additional abilities. Combo Master ought to make some things somewhat more interesting.
Are AP Ups (plus Defense Ups and Magic Ups) easier to obtain in Final Mix than they were in OG KH1?
badcrumble
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Yeah, the Final Mixes for KH2 and BBS were both pretty great in that regard. Makes me look forward to that KH2FM+BBSFM+DDD cutscenes collection.
Electivirus
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Ditto. Those Organization XIII fights are calling me. ;___;
I was suuuuper jealous of the stuff they added in FM+
Don't recall anyone saying that. KH2 FM+'s CM is clearly difficult tho, not as much as it should, but a decent challenge still for it requires you to invest some thought into the battle system. KH1 is easy all along, except when it comes to FM's Unknown. Both systems feel like a waste.
Seven Force
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Yeah, the inevitable KHIIFM and BBSFM in HD is what I'm looking forward to the most.
KHIIFM was the Vesperia PS3 of it's time, at least in regards to additional content.
KHIIFM was the Vesperia PS3 of it's time, at least in regards to additional content.
badcrumble
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You can grind the Data Versions of those members for infinite AP Up, Attack Up, Magic Up, and Defense Up, right?
You said grind like they were easy, if you manage to beat one you can get that stuff but even at level 99 they eat you up. I wasn't very good at KHII solo fights though.
Cornbread78
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the memories just keep coming back looking at those pics..
badcrumble
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I just wish KH1FM would allow the same thing and let you grind Ice Titan, Sephiroth, and, I dunno, a Coliseum version of Kurt Zisa to farm AP/Strength/Defense Ups. Having to farm synthesis materials instead is so dull and tedious.
Seven Force
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Yeah, Off the top of my head, I know Roxas gives Magic Boosts, Xemnas gives Attack, and Saix (along with someone else) gives Defense. Can't remember who gives AP.
Grinding boosts only goes so far though, since all stats cap at 80, IIRC.
Agreed. Doesn't help that KH1FM managed to make synthesizing even more tedious than in the initial release. I don't think I ever bothered getting Ultima Weapon in Final Mix because of that.
R10Neymarfan
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Maybe but I don't think I've seen any current gen game with the Blu-ray audio formats
Plenty of PS3 games have LPCM 5.1 and 7.1 audio.
R10Neymarfan
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Then it will probably have that. I know it's 5.1 channels. I don't know it's losseless or not. I assumed Dolby Digital since that's what most games have. However if there is space on the disc then they can put in the lossless music.
Coolbgdog12
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I'm getting this for KH1 and the other ones. I'm playing KH2 final mix on PCSX2 and it looks exactly or better than in these pics.
Why no 360 version
For whatever reason, Kingdom Hearts games are never multiplatform. And the PS3 was by far a best choice for it out of all the platforms. Odds of a 360/Vita/Wii U release are very low.
You're not reading that right. Nomura has had no reluctance to "explore modern hardware" (come on, he's directing what is probably the biggest FF project so far). Kingdom Hearts III was always going to be a console game and, in fact, one of the reasons why they originally decided to develop Versus XIII first was because he had such big plans for Kingdom Hearts III that he felt he & his team needed perfect understanding of Playstation 3's capabilities to be able to pull it off. The only reluctance for developing KHIII were story-related reasons (he felt certain things needed to still be explored before III). Also, in 2010 he was still of the opinion that they couldn't start working on KHIII because KH Team is tied to Versus, but nowadays he considers the Osaka team as pretty much the ("main") KH Team, so they've probably begun working on III at some level already.
In that interview Nomura is saying that he'd prefer for KHIII to be a PS3(60) project because if it isn't, it means it will be for the Orbis/Durango generation and that will delay the game, which he doesn't want and knows fans don't want either. It has nothing to do with reluctance to work on current gen consoles.
They're coming back to consoles with HD ports because they finally acknowledged that spreading the games on four different platforms wasn't that wise + the first game was released over 10 years ago and they have to do something to fix the situation because it's still continuing the same story.
That was probably before they fully understood the XIV catastrophe and how much it would take to fix it. Had XIV not been as broken as to need such huge turnover, Versus would probably have been out by now.
To be fair, I only read the short summarized version of the interview, I didn't read the whole thing. It's that I distinctly remember Nomura saying the choice for hand-held was intended, for game-design purposes, but also to let the games remain close to the PS2's episodes.
Les trois jeux nommés Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Kingdom Hearts Coded et Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep se sont très bien vendus, qu'en pensez-vous ?
Nomura: C'était très dur, mais aussi très amusant. Ce fût un défi sur plusieurs points, et j'ai trouvé des éléments que je peux utiliser maintenant. Je pense surtout que le fait de sortir les jeux sur différentes consoles était une très bonne chose. Par exemple, sur PSP, nous pouvons utiliser les mêmes contrôles que la série originales. Mais, comme la Nintendo DS n'avait pas de joystick, nous avons inventé un système de deck. Et surtout, nous avions un jeu qui n'était pas sur console mais sur portable, nous devions donc faire un jeu simple, mais restant un véritable Kingdom Hearts. J'ai beaucoup appris grâce à ces expériences.
I think releasing those three games on three different platforms was a very good thing.
Unfortunately, I no longer have the source to back the PS2 part, but I do remember reading it in the due time, in 2010. At any rate, it may have been nothing but poor wording on the reporter's part.
So yeah, I ultimately don't think he is the kind to make shit up like folks out there are so inclined to believe (design aside, guess Nomura is also partly responsible for Lightning being that bad of a character right? More of this later in the LR's thread, folks). He doesn't resort to marketing/obscure language like Kitase, rather loses in translation and redistribution of information over sites fail at conveying his visions. He remains an artist more than a commercial.
WeaponKnight
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I'm confused, wasn't that a translation error?
The English dub is on the JP disc. It's only JP text though. Not sure why the poster you're quoting is wasting his hope.
Paddington Bear
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I definitely agree with most of what you said, however I don't think that Versus would have been delayed by XIV's disaster. You'd think it would be sped up. So the only reasonable thing in my mind is that Versus switched to next gen before XIV bombed but there was no going back.
This leads me to think if there is work being done on KH3 it is on Next gen consoles.
WeaponKnight
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Oh, so it does have dual audio? Nice, I guess I don't need to wait for the english version then
Oh, so it does have dual audio? Nice, I guess I don't need to wait for the english version then
Well, that I would still do considering they're recording some new stuff for the English version.
Laughed too hard at this.
badcrumble
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Synthesis is even worse? :-(
WeaponKnight
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You now need materials from the new heartless to make the best items. Some of them are straight up hard (NeoShadow), others annoying (Pink Agaricus, the new ghost, the sniper monkeys).
Oh yeah, forgot about Days. Well, considering that I played RE:CoM in japanese only and didn't have too many problems with the story, it's still a possibility. Tough, if they keep the dual audio for the english release (unlikely) or release the game in Chinese/English a la FFXIII, I can wait.
Well, like I said, after KHII's story Nomura felt there were things that should be touched upon (story-wise) before KHIII could happen. At first he wasn't sure how approach all of those events (he knew he needed more than one game). He knew that two or three full-blown console games aren't possible. They'd take too long & SQEX simply didn't have the workforce to do this, so portables were the only option (could be developed by smaller teams), they were done out of necessity. Nintendo approached SE for a KH game so that became Days, PSP was probably a good choice for BBS since it was a PS2 level handheld (at a time when PS2 was close to death) & Osaka team had proven themselves to be able to handle the development of PS2 level games. It was to be a game comparable to mainline games in the franchise, so obviously DS wasn't the platform to go to.
Everything I've read about Nomura paints him as a very nice & honest person who'd be a great boss to have (he's not a dictator, but someone who let's creativity of the development teams flourish, encouraging people to bring their own ideas into the mix, yet giving his honest opinion/criticism on stuff that is being worked on as well), he just sometimes sounds cryptic because he needs to be (IIRC there have been a couple of cases where there has been some PR guy who has prevented Nomura from answering some questions during the interview). The whole "please wait for awhile" meme exists because that's all they are allowing him to say about Versus.
I'm not sure how, he designed the characters as per Toriyama's request. I don't think he had much to do with how she turned out otherwise (though, not that Nomura's involvement would've helped).
Even Wada has admitted that fixing XIV has crippled their HD development, so it's definitely a possibility that had XIV 1.0 been considerable better, we'd probably have a much different situation at our hands nowadays.
And I seriously don't think Versus has become a next-gen project. It'll just be the FFIX & XII of this generation (the last FF of the generation that arrives when the next generation has already begun). As much as it doesn't seem like it due to the current situation, they probably do want to get Versus out as soon as it is possible given the decisions they have made (that is, fixing XIV). Moving it to next-gen would simply make it take even longer and at this point I'm sure they'd rather not let that happen after all the delays the game has gone through (but they still don't want to rush it out at this point before they feel it's finished, even if it has taken long).
Kingdom Hearts 2 was a good game. Kingdom Hearts 2 FM+ is fucking amazing.
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