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"PS3 not worth $600 and a night in a parking lot" -- Next-Gen

Porridge

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Next-Gen reviews the PS3:

Not worth getting one now, but they do say that eventually the system will be a must buy. Their newly posted article proclaims Genji and Resistance to be a "one two punch" and says that early adopters are paying mostly for potential "but what else is a console launch for?"

I dunno Next Gen. There's a good track record of brilliant, long-lasting games being released at launch in the past 15 years.

I laughed at this: "One good place to judge the PS3 is its controller. A lot of nonsense has flown about the Siaxis motion sensing (accusing Sony of ripping off Nintendo) and the lack of rumble (accusing Sony of not wanting to pay Immersion money). The controller, thanks to the lack of motors, is light, which is surprisingly good feeling. It’s almost identical to its PS2 predecessor, and is comfortable and familiar. Using the PS3's controller is like coming home."

Did they rip Nintendo off? It's not a stretch to say, yeah, they might've caught wind about Nintendo dabbling in this kind of interface. The thing about excluding vibration though is false -- it's not nonsense. Sony does not want to pay for vibration. Period.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4216&Itemid=2
 
I'd rather hear this argument spoken. Is there a new Next Gen podcast yet? One of the best gaming podcasts around!

Oh, and no system is worth $600. Give me a bunch of good games, though, and I'll plop down any amount to play it. Resistance + crap is not going to sell me a system, Sony.
 
Gigglepoo said:
I'd rather hear this argument spoken. Is there a new Next Gen podcast yet? One of the best gaming podcasts around!

Oh, and no system is worth $600. Give me a bunch of good games, though, and I'll plop down any amount to play it. Resistance + crap is not going to sell me a system, Sony.

I guess it might make for some entertainment to listen to a person try to spin worthy accusations against Sony. But then again maybe not

Still NextGens podcast is a good listen.
 
It's not worth $600. to me at this point, but as soon as more games I want besides Resistance release and the 720 issue is fixed I'll consider it more. A $100 price drop and I'm all over it, until then the 360 has too many awesome games out or about to be out to think about buying another launch console.
 
Genij?!?!?1 Genji is their choice for #2 title?

Oh I see based just on looks not playing it.

Actually the Playstation Network got turned on today for US gamers so this article is wrong about that too.
 
DJ Sl4m said:
It's not worth $600. to me at this point, but as soon as more games I want besides Resistance release and the 720 issue is fixed I'll consider it more. A $100 price drop and I'm all over it, until then the 360 has too many awesome games out or about to be out to think about buying another launch console.
Well since it only cost $500, I guess you 'all over it' then?
 
The article is very good. They say it´s not worth the $600 FOR NOW, but it´s worth for the system will deliver the goods with time.
 
meh i got a gaming pc and x360 to keep me busy.... and hopefully a wii this sunday. I want a ps3 but i think i can handle waiting for the day i can walk into a bb and pick it up, im not making the same mistake i did with the 360 and picking it up before theres any good games for it
 
Obviously we all lov games. But we can't always have all the consoles when we wan them. So I started thinking, the 360 and Wii have such an awesome lineup, the PS3 has less exclusive games every day, and there will be a total of 5 people playing online! $600? No thanks. I'll be forced to get one for MGS4 though. And yea $100 price drop and I'm still a bit squimish, but I'd probably bite. I'll be the first wave of PS3's will have a lot more bugs than are already known. Just give it untill March. For now there is Viva Piñata, Gears of War, Guitar Hero II, Final Fantasy XI, Splinter Cell DA, Zelda TP, Red Steel, Trauma Center, and much more to keep me from jumping into PS3's $600 waters.
 
UltimaKilo said:
Obviously we all lov games. But we can't always have all the consoles when we wan them. So I started thinking, the 360 and Wii have such an awesome lineup, the PS3 has less exclusive games every day, and there will be a total of 5 people playing online! $600? No thanks. I'll be forced to get one for MGS4 though. And yea $100 price drop and I'm still a bit squimish, but I'd probably bite. I'll be the first wave of PS3's will have a lot more bugs than are already known. Just give it untill March. For now there is Viva Piñata, Gears of War, Guitar Hero II, Final Fantasy XI, Splinter Cell DA, Zelda TP, Red Steel, Trauma Center, and much more to keep me from jumping into PS3's $600 waters.


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and "total of 5 people playing online"? lol this aint Wii's online service we're talkin about, ya kno :lol
 
In 2006, PlayStation 3 isn't about what the system can do. It's about what the system will do.

This is ALL that needs to be said in this thread.
 
Safe Bet said:
Well since it only cost $500, I guess you 'all over it' then?

Yea definately once we're past the launch hardware issues. I want Resistance for sure though.
Insomniac Hooked me with Disruptor on PSX, I have faith in their FPS games.
 
Porridge said:
Next-Gen reviews the PS3:

Not worth getting one now, but they do say that eventually the system will be a must buy. Their newly posted article proclaims Genji and Resistance to be a "one two punch" and says that early adopters are paying mostly for potential "but what else is a console launch for?"

I dunno Next Gen. There's a good track record of brilliant, long-lasting games being released at launch in the past 15 years.

I dunno, outside of Nintendo hitting it big with the Mario games in their first few consoles and MS lucking out with Halo, can you think of any brilliant, long-lasting launch games? I certainly can't, and I know the Playstation brand has never had great launch games (I mean, PS1's most hyped game was Battle Arena Toshinden, a fun game at the time but one that certainly hasn't held up well). Sega didn't have them (Genny launched with Altered Beast, not Sonic, and the Saturn didn't either) - with the arguable exception of Soul Calibur on Dreamcast. It just doesn't really seem that common to have great launch games.
 
NES had Super Mario Bros.
SNES had Super Mario World
N64 had Super Mario 64
Gameboy had Tetris
Gameboy Advance had Chu Chu Rocket and Castlevania
Xbox had Halo
Dreamcast had Soul Calibur
Wii will have Zelda

It's not too much to ask for a great game at system launch.
 
Insane Metal said:
The article is very good. They say it´s not worth the $600 FOR NOW, but it´s worth for the system will deliver the goods with time.

Great. I'll just keep in it the box and break it out in say, oh, 2 or 3 years.
 
Honestly I don't really disagree with this.

Having played the PS3, and listening to Sony talking about it, I'm not too excited about it. As someone who doesn't care about graphics, they need to offer me a great lineup, and right now it's not there just yet for me. I'm just not feeling it yet, especially with that price tag.
 
I agree with that article. I camp for no one. I just showed up on October 10th and was fourth in line. I was even late for work and got to eat breakfast and shit. Easiest f*cking $2000 I made in my life.

It's smart to sell a defect-riddled PS3 to some dopey soccer mom for an inflated price now, wait six or more months for better games, stable hardware and hopefully a small price drop. Then I'll stroll my ass into Target, casually pick up 2 or 3 block-buster PS3 games along with my stable, refined PS3 console and go home to play it on the Bravia that I bought with some of the funds from my PS3 auction a year earlier.

Sounds like a win-win, for me. But never underestimate the excitement of having something first. Technically I will...I just won't open the box and play it.
 
Porridge said:
Next-Gen reviews the PS3:

Not worth getting one now, but they do say that eventually the system will be a must buy.

Well, no shit you dumb****s.

Seriously, are there like, ANY good sites anymore? Maybe it's time I revisit that mythical Gaming Age front page again.


...Does it still exist? :)
 
Gigglepoo said:
NES had Super Mario Bros.
SNES had Super Mario World
N64 had Super Mario 64
Gameboy had Tetris
Gameboy Advance had Chu Chu Rocket and Castlevania
Xbox had Halo
Dreamcast had Soul Calibur
Wii will have Zelda

It's not too much to ask for a great game at system launch.

Huh? Halo wasn't launch and if the Wii will have Zelda, then PS3 has ToA, FFXII and God of War 2.
 
7Th said:
Huh?

If the Wii will have Zelda, then PS3 has ToA, FFXII and God of War 2.

Zelda: Twilight Princess is a Wii game. The games you listed are PS2 games. Do you see the difference? Also, Halo: Combat Evolved came out the same day as the Xbox. Are you even a gamer? How do you not know these things?
 
Karishin said:
No system is worth a night in a parking lot really.
Ditto. Gaming's never been important enough to camp out for IMO. Hell, I was never a day 1 gamer either, so I guess that's what's up. I used to rent games as soon as they came out, but for me there's no rush to get anything. The only reason I'm interested in getting a PS3 now is b/c I don't forsee a price drop for a long, long time. Only lots of different value packs. It might be worth waiting for the GTHD value pack, which might become a reality next year. PEACE.
 
You can buy Zelda on gamecube. So all Sony has to do is take a classic PS2 game and added some sixaxis support and update the graphics a bit and everything will be cool.
 
Bad_Boy said:
thank god im not spending the night in a parking lot.
/me hugs preorder

That's right because it's worth TWO nights in a parking lot, because all one night isn't enough to get one anyway.:lol
 
kevm3 said:
You can buy Zelda on gamecube. So all Sony has to do is take a classic PS2 game and added some sixaxis support and update the graphics a bit and everything will be cool.

So all Sony has to do is take a game they've been making for the PS2, update it so it takes advantage of the PS3's power and release it on the PS3 in time for the launch tomorrow? Oh, and the game has to be great. I think you lack objectivity. Zelda was designed for the Wii. It's coming out on the Wii first. And it's going to be a great title. Do you really think, after seeing all those great launch games in the past, Sony can get a free pass with this launch?

Do you realize the vast majority of launch games for all systems are ports? How many systems was PDZ on before it ended up on the X360 last year? This is what happens with ports. Zelda is different because the Wii and GC are similar in power. But this is just like every other system launch.
 
Gigglepoo said:
So all Sony has to do is take a game they've been making for the PS2, update it so it takes advantage of the PS3's power and release it on the PS3 in time for the launch tomorrow? Oh, and the game has to be great. I think you lack objectivity. Zelda was designed for the Wii. It's coming out on the Wii first. And it's going to be a great title. Do you really think, after seeing all those great launch games in the past, Sony can get a free pass with this launch?

Do you realize the vast majority of launch games for all systems are ports? How many systems was PDZ on before it ended up on the X360 last year? This is what happens with ports. Zelda is different because the Wii and GC are similar in power. But this is just like every other system launch.
How so? What makes it "designed for the Wii"? Wasn't someone from Nintendo saying the other day that they were thinking of adding Wiimote functionality to some GCN games and reselling them?

And from what I remember of PS1 and PS2 launches, they sucked too. Not that the PS3 is likely to succeed because of that, but this launch lineup isn't that big of a deal, especially not when Sony can't even ship enough PS3s.
 
Green Biker Dude said:
How so? What makes it "designed for the Wii"? Wasn't someone from Nintendo saying the other day that they were thinking of adding Wiimote functionality to some GCN games and reselling them?

The controls for the Wii version are apparantly better than the controls for the GC version. Considering the Wii is all about controls, I would say that Zelda was ultimately designed to take advantage of the strengths of the Wii. Zelda is probably a better representation of what to expect on the Wii than Resistence and PDZ were to their respective systems. Just like Marvel: Ultimate Alliance isn't a GBA title just because it's available for that system, Zelda isn't a GC game just because it will appear on it eventually.
 
Gigglepoo said:
The controls for the Wii version are apparantly better than the controls for the GC version. Considering the Wii is all about controls, I would say that Zelda was ultimately designed to take advantage of the strengths of the Wii. Zelda is probably a better representation of what to expect on the Wii than Resistence and PDZ were to their respective systems. Just like Marvel: Ultimate Alliance isn't a GBA title just because it's available for that system, Zelda isn't a GC game just because it will appear on it eventually.
Well, the other guy was talking about updating a PS2 game's graphics and adding Sixaxis support so it would "take advantage of the strengths of the PS3".

And I disagree about Zelda representing what you'll see on the Wii. Nintendo probably has a better idea of how to use the controller, not to mention most third parties don't seem to be trying with their Wii games.
 
Green Biker Dude said:
Well, the other guy was talking about updating a PS2 game's graphics and adding Sixaxis support so it would "take advantage of the strengths of the PS3".

Did Sony do that? No? Than why is this even being talked about?
 
Gigglepoo said:
The controls for the Wii version are apparantly better than the controls for the GC version. Considering the Wii is all about controls, I would say that Zelda was ultimately designed to take advantage of the strengths of the Wii. Zelda is probably a better representation of what to expect on the Wii than Resistence and PDZ were to their respective systems. Just like Marvel: Ultimate Alliance isn't a GBA title just because it's available for that system, Zelda isn't a GC game just because it will appear on it eventually.

Sigh. I really have to find that Steve Carell .gif. You do know Nintendo announced Zelda: TP for Gamecube first right? Reassured fans of the system that this game would be it's last hurrah. Etc Etc. Etc. I can't be the only one to remember this...
 
Kintaro said:
Sigh. I really have to find that Steve Carell .gif. You do know Nintendo announced Zelda: TP for Gamecube first right? Reassured fans of the system that this game would be it's last hurrah. Etc Etc. Etc. I can't be the only one to remember this...

Perfect Dark Zero was announced for the Xbox at some point. It was in development for the Gamecube as well. When it came out, it was for the X360. What system would you say that was for?

If you buy a Wii at launch, you will be able to buy Zelda: Twilight Princess for the Wii. It cannot be played on any other system. It should be a great game. This is my point.
 
kevm3 said:
You can buy Zelda on gamecube. So all Sony has to do is take a classic PS2 game and added some sixaxis support and update the graphics a bit and everything will be cool.
i agree....dont know why the nintendo fanboys are all shoutin "ZELDA ON WII OR NUTHIN'!!!"...... when the game shoulda been released on gamecube 12 months ago so that game-starved Nintendo fanboys would've had somethin to tie them over for the entire year-and-half of drought and nothingness. it would be as asinine as sony marketing FF12 or Okami or God of War 2 as reasons to buy a PS3 since they can also be played on the console.
So yeah......Zelda on Gamecube for me. Period...
...Its the least that i can do for Nintendo after swindlin me outta my money and giving me such a long-lastin console with such bountiful library of games and online play..............
 
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