MilkyJoe
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Won't do 4K by upscaling, you're all idiots...
Will do 4K by uprendering, take that and party, losers
Joke post? I can't tell anymore.
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PS4 Neo presentation might have leaked
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Won't do 4K by upscaling, you're all idiots...
Will do 4K by uprendering, take that and party, losers
Joke post? I can't tell anymore.
This clearly isn't meant for the general public. For developers they absolutely want as much as possible and as little buzzwords as possible.
Thats a lot of information though. What are the odds we'd get bloodborne at 60fps?
Get_craycray
Banned
I think there will be a big price gap between those two.
gundamkyoukai
Member
If it coming this year that was a given unless sony want to price them self out the market .
johnnydrama
Banned
Please don't have an overclocked Jaguar CPU.
ChaosZeroX
Banned
Yup. I agree 100%
Most likely the case.
Power wise? MS has almost a year on it atleast so yeah, that would have to be the case. Sales wise? Nah. But it generally matters little, i think both of them will be niche products.
Also...people really have to understand the difference betwen upscaling, downsampling, and internal res.
It says that prototype systems have to be returned at the start of 2017 and that mass produced units will be available before that.
great spideys think alike
geordiemp
Member
about 0.00000000000000001 %
Sales wise? Absolutely! Just like the PS4 was destroyed by the XB1.
Astral Dog
Member
Why no price or release date?
Then pray that they have changed their minds
Maybe they are talking about mass produced dev-kits?
Yeah I'm pretty sure the 2017 return date is for developers returning prototypes to SIE.
I'm very confident this will launch in 2016. Not only did Andrew House say it will but they're counting on PS4K/NEO to reach their 20 million projection for this fiscal year.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
But we already knew this (spec wise). I'll still buy it for first party.
Simply Sami
Member
Of course Scorpio is going to destroy it power wise. It would be foolish by MS to release a less powerful console a year later.
artsi
Member
Maybe you should read it again: Developers need to return their prototype systems to Sony at start of 2017.
And consumer hardware will be available before that.
piccio_ssl
Member
because this is a old dev document and not a proper announcement?
It's a pretty significant GPU upgrade from the console that runs Uncharted 4 so i'm not bothered. Means going forward we'll get PS4 level games but with absolutely exquisite image quality and better framerates (while still running good and looking great on the original PS4 as games do now). It's all good, I'm honestly in no rush to jump a true console generation, especially since that would mean a really expensive console and disrupt the flow of great games on the way as things go back to square one yet again for devs and publishers.
This is old it's also probably the document that started all the Neo talk.
family_guy
Member
I imagine some games will run at a more stable framerate if the engine isn't somehow tied to a set clock speed.
Not unusual for technical slides. A lot of the slides on my university courses look like that. The question is really if you have a script prepared or not. If not, the info on the slide has to cover everything important, you can't just have a few words in there.
Neuromancer
Member
Bears gonna get destroyed by salmon
dead monkey uk
Member
In specs yes, in sales and price no way.
The power difference is huge but rumour is Sony held back neo at e3 to fiddle with specs a bit after finding out what Microsoft is doing.
dynamitejim
Member
Why is Sony so conservative with core clocks? RX 480 total board power is only 150W at 1266MHz with 8GBs of 8Gbps GDDR5. They could come in well under that with a chip clocked at 1085MHz and reach 5TF.
With all the leaks and rumors it's not like people aren't aware Neo is a thing, so yeah, I'm guessing they'll follow the Apple route and we might see Neo available during October or November. It'll definitely be less poweful than Scorpio though, but that's because Scorpio will cost significantly more I think.
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Hopefully not many devs will make the conscious choice to limit framerates or downgrade resolution in order to have a more significant change between the base game and the NEO version. The document certainly allows for that.
exmachina64
Banned
This has been known for so long.
I plan on getting a 480, and everything I've read so far, says the card draws more than that.
So your saying there's a chance?
Proelite
Member
RX 480 is not power or temperature efficient at all.
They probably want to be as careful with this as they are for the PS4 OG, that and they don't really care about getting the most power out of the box that they could.
Its an iterative unit with upgrades but not really enough to loosen the distinction between a gen change and a refresh of the PS4 with higher power.
That and, the Polaris architecture so far is unimpressive power draw wise
And we will see a PS2-OXB Market situation...
vpance
Member
Well it is an old doc. Last verified insider rumor had them aiming for 5.5TF.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Not going to happen with an RX480.
geordiemp
Member
Nice one lol