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What?? Really? How come I never heard of this?
It also included all the DLC and some game balance improvements I believe. That's how they got away with it. If it was just the dx11 patch then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have.
What?? Really? How come I never heard of this?
Your lost in translation.
Costs the COMPANY to patch...... not the customer to buy a patch.
Why are so many people misunderstanding this?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean there. To be clear - all legacy games will work on Pro. They don't need to be patched, they're not being held for ransom. If a dev wants the game to Pro optimisations, a specific Pro mode, then they'd have to patch them.
If a pattern emerged of publishers charging for those patches, then we could talk about Sony not standing up for what's in the interests of Pro appeal/penetration. In the meantime we're arguing about a technical possibility based on licensee agreements - not a Sony policy about how patches should be handled.
It also included all the DLC and some game balance improvements I believe. That's how they got away with it. If it was just the dx11 patch then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have.
Why is Sony using devs as a human shield? Just call it the PS5 rather than confusing consumers with more types of optional paid "content"
Even if the charge is for older games the second hand market is huge and this situation is just confusing to the point where. Consumers would just buy an S or a Slim.
*sad dance*Destiny Pro Patch - 19.99, with 3 free emotes.
Destiny Pro Patch - 19.99, with 3 free emotes.
I'm willing to pay up to $10 for an old game to receive a patch that enhances the performance on Pro. You can't expect every company to hand out upgrades for free when the idea of this console didn't even exist when the game released.
New games will obviously be free.
Your lost in translation.
Costs the COMPANY to patch...... not the customer to buy a patch.
Why are so many people misunderstanding this?
Game Impress Watch: For the 4K HDR patch for existing titles, will it cost money? Or will it be free?
Ito: It will be different for each title. I believe it will depend on the thinking of each licensee.
Game Impress Watch: What about Sony Interactive Entertainment?
Ito: I think it will vary for each one of our titles.
Are people here really thinking conumers will have to pay anything? Lol
This is dev thing, same as all other patches. First patch is free, rest cost money for cert.
Good God.
That's exactly what potential PlayStation Pro consumers will do instead. smh
I'm guessing that list of old games getting patched isn't going to grow substantially larger.
I mean if your trying to attract new consumers to market they would naturally explore the backlog they missed only to find the PS4 Slim basically treats the backlog the same way. Joe Average doesn't give a shit what you consider legacy. He sees a game on a shelf and expects his machine to run it. Like it runs the other Pro comparable games - not like a slim.
Destiny Pro Patch - 19.99, with 3 free emotes.
Serious question here, how are old games going to be treated in relation to HDR on the Xbox S and PS4 Slim?
Is the inclusion of HDR something that devs need to patch too?
Sounds like OP is trying to stir drama. They're definitely charging the devs if anything to release a patch for PS4Neo updates. Customers who bought the game should not have to pay for these.
Game Impress Watch: For the 4K HDR patch for existing titles, will it cost money? Or will it be free?
Ito: It will be different for each title. I believe it will depend on the thinking of each licensee.
I mean if your trying to attract new consumers to market they would naturally explore the backlog they missed only to find the PS4 Slim basically treats the backlog the same way. Joe Average doesn't give a shit what you consider legacy. He sees a game on a shelf and expects his machine to run it. Like it runs the other Pro comparable games - not like a slim.
I thought one of the reasons that games currently aren't updated very often is that client side patches have to get approved by sony and fees have to be paid? How is this any different?
Why is Sony using devs as a human shield? Just call it the PS5 rather than confusing consumers with more types of optional paid "content"
Even if the charge is for older games the second hand market is huge and this situation is just confusing to the point where. Consumers would just buy an S or a Slim.
Not possible. Game must be the same on PS4 and PS4 pro.
It is free.Not necessarily. Sony isn't ruling out any scenario.
It has a fee (for developers) but it will become free (for consumers).GW: So, each title will have a fee, but it will become free?
Masayasu Ito: That's right.
*sad dance**sad dance*
It is free.
The Kotatsu translation didn't even match the Japanese words... they added things that didn't happened.
Older games are cheaper and PS4 Pro will have 4K all over its ads, I don't think many will read the small font so this is why it's a bad move.
Shit I know retail workers and they tell me all the time that people go straight for new console and preowned bundles. It's economics. Old content is new content if your eyes haven't seen it so if the Pro isn't capitalising on it then I guess people will buy the Slim or S leaving the Pros primary market as what; Neogaf users and Gamers too lazy to pay someone to build a PC?
Exactly.Please stop making up imaginary things about the interview.
Sounds like OP is trying to stir drama. They're definitely charging the devs if anything to release a patch for PS4Neo updates. Customers who bought the game should not have to pay for these.
For games released before october, yes.
Sony can't dictate publishers their stance about old games.
Gonna assume they mean developers will have to pay. Otherwise if it meant consumers then there is no point even putting this console out.
Lol that's not what they are sayingIt is free.
It has a fee (for developers) but it will become free (for consumers).
Tell that to the people who already bought all the DLC.
Not if this is the real interview: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/interview/1019310.htmlThe Kotaku translation is correct.
Older games are cheaper and PS4 Pro will have 4K all over its ads, I don't think many will read the small font so this is why it's a bad move.
Shit I know retail workers and they tell me all the time that people go straight for new console and preowned bundles. It's economics. Old content is new content if your eyes haven't seen it so if the Pro isn't capitalising on it then I guess people will buy the Slim or S leaving the Pros primary market as what; Neogaf users and Gamers too lazy to pay someone to build a PC?
They're the platform holders with a list of mandatory requirements on PS4Pro but they can't... Okay.