……forgetit
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I think there was talk of it being native 4K, which is really cool.
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PS4 Pro: The Ultimate FAQ
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I think there was talk of it being native 4K, which is really cool.
Neuromancer
Member
What's the highest capacity hard drive that will fit in the PS4 Pro? 2TB?
Electret
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They go over it a bit in the latest digital foundry video, they go over it. It will support native 4K @ 30 FPS on pro including the refined shadows.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Does the PS4 PRO have SATA III? I want to see that answered.
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
So does the online games statement in this FAQ contradict what was said yesterday?
Will online games be restricted to the same framerates (it seems like most devs are going to improve resolution and detail before performance so far anyway unfortunately)?
I didn't understand the reasoning for the comments made yesterday when devs already support differences in performance on PC.
Will online games be restricted to the same framerates (it seems like most devs are going to improve resolution and detail before performance so far anyway unfortunately)?
I didn't understand the reasoning for the comments made yesterday when devs already support differences in performance on PC.
Suzushiiro
Banned
I would guess that most games that are punching well below the base PS4's weight (indies, remasters, mid-tier games like what Gust/Idea Factory/etc. make) will do native 4K, simply because they easily can. It's the AAAs that will have to do the checkerboard thing.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Ok guys, I asked Sid on Twitter about unpatched games and unfortunately, it sounds like they are indeed set to run just as they do on the standard PS4. Bummer, imo. Doesn't make sense for them to have this restriction.
I guess we will know for sure soon enough, but yea, hopefully there is an unlocked mode.
No reason not to have games with unlocked or unstable framerates get a boost on Pro. Just like many 360 games get smoothed out on XBO.
xion4360
Member
some games run better on the Xbox One S than the old XBO and this is with no interference whatsoever on the part of developers.. it simply has more power to work with and ends up producing slightly better results.. I dont see why that wouldnt work in a similar way with the pro.
I got a question
On GAF, will there be Pro specific threads in relation to games?
It sounds ridiculous but I have no intention of getting the Pro yet. I sit down. I'm looking forward to something like, say, Last Guardian. I open the OT and 75% of the posts are
"What about the Pro version"?
"When are we getting the Pro patch"
"The visuals are Ok on ps4 but lol Pro destroys it"
"Pro saves this game"
"Pro takes it to another level"
It's going to get annoying in many ways. I appreciate this type of comparative posting is nothing new and hell, friendly swipes between Xbone-Ps4 versions and vice versa are old as time, but this 'Pro' debate seeping into every thread...I've been a console gamer from many decades and ever since the 'imagine the Neo version' postings from months back started I saw it as probably something that would drive me away from these kind of boards to be honest (and I love you all
Dunno. Maybe the beer talking.
Equally I know PC game threads and gamers must get this all the time but that was one of the factors that deterred me over the years of getting into that arms race.
On GAF, will there be Pro specific threads in relation to games?
It sounds ridiculous but I have no intention of getting the Pro yet. I sit down. I'm looking forward to something like, say, Last Guardian. I open the OT and 75% of the posts are
"What about the Pro version"?
"When are we getting the Pro patch"
"The visuals are Ok on ps4 but lol Pro destroys it"
"Pro saves this game"
"Pro takes it to another level"
It's going to get annoying in many ways. I appreciate this type of comparative posting is nothing new and hell, friendly swipes between Xbone-Ps4 versions and vice versa are old as time, but this 'Pro' debate seeping into every thread...I've been a console gamer from many decades and ever since the 'imagine the Neo version' postings from months back started I saw it as probably something that would drive me away from these kind of boards to be honest (and I love you all
Dunno. Maybe the beer talking.
Equally I know PC game threads and gamers must get this all the time but that was one of the factors that deterred me over the years of getting into that arms race.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I got a question
On GAF, will there be Pro specific threads in relation to games?
It sounds ridiculous but I have no intention of getting the Pro yet. I sit down. I'm looking forward to something like, say, Last Guardian. I open the OT and 75% of the posts are
"What about the Pro version"?
"When are we getting the Pro patch"
"The visuals are Ok on ps4 but lol Pro destroys it"
"Pro saves this game"
"Pro takes it to another level"
It's going to get annoying in many ways. I appreciate this type of comparative posting is nothing new and hell, friend swipes between Xbone-Ps4 versions and vice versa are old as time, but this 'Pro' debate seeping into every thread...I've been a console gamer from many decades and ever since the 'imagine the Neo version' postings from months back started I saw it as probably something that would drive me away from these kind of boards to be honest (and I love you all
Dunno. Maybe the beer talking.
Digital Foundry threads will be very active once this thing comes out.
Suzushiiro
Banned
I got a question
On GAF, will there be Pro specific threads in relation to games?
It sounds ridiculous but I have no intention of getting the Pro yet. I sit down. I'm looking forward to something like, say, Last Guardian. I open the OT and 75% of the posts are
"What about the Pro version"?
"When are we getting the Pro patch"
"The visuals are Ok on ps4 but lol Pro destroys it"
"Pro saves this game"
"Pro takes it to another level"
It's going to get annoying in many ways. I appreciate this type of comparative posting is nothing new and hell, friendly swipes between Xbone-Ps4 versions and vice versa are old as time, but this 'Pro' debate seeping into every thread...I've been a console gamer from many decades and ever since the 'imagine the Neo version' postings from months back started I saw it as probably something that would drive me away from these kind of boards to be honest (and I love you all
Dunno. Maybe the beer talking.
Equally I know PC game threads and gamers must get this all the time but that was one of the factors that deterred me over the years of getting into that arms race.
The worst ones are going to be the "this game was clearly designed around the Pro, this is a total slap in the face to base PS4 owners" complaints that happen every time the framerate drops.
FF Seraphim
Member
Sorry if this has been addressed: Do we know what kind of harddrive will be in the Pro? Going to sell my PS4 and need to know if i should take out my 7200 1tb.
Bingo yuuup this too
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Its 1 TB. Probably the same 5400 rpm the others have.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkk
I admit, this is my #1 fear. That devs are going to design for Pro/Scorpio and so long as it runs on the old PS4/Xbox, ship it.
The only comparison point we have right now is AAA games on PC, and most of them are at-best "meh" ports with poor optimization so I'm not feeling real positive about OG PS4/Xbox optimization going forward. You don't see much complaining about PC ports running like crap on GAF because most PC gamers here are running systems from 1-3 years old which can still run new games okay(ish) and just brute force the graphics and performance.
The other comparable data point that we have are games that bridged a new generation like Shadow of Mordor that has the real version on PS4 and what was basically unplayable crap on PS3 and that comparison doesn't fill me with confidence either.
I don't see any way around upgrading to the Pro/Scorpio if console gaming is one of your primary hobbies.
NEO and Scorpio wont ever come close to PS4 and XB1's userbases. If Sony smartens up and cheapens the Slim price, NEO will never catch up with it.
BeamImpact
Member
higher framerates in multiplayer games would really be the only reason for me to get the playstation pro, i dont get why the dev think its unfair or anything when theres already stuff like
- scuf controllers
- mouse and keyboard adapters
- low inputlag gaming monitors
- dolby decoders with great stereo headphones
- gaming routers and high bandwidth connections
on PC having more frames with a better graphics card isnt something the devs do consider as unfair, so why would they on consoles?
if all the playstation pro does in multiplayer games is to increase the graphics on 1080p monitors then you might actually have an advantage playing on the regular playstation since additional graphic elements can make it harder to track targets
while its nice to play on ultra settings for a while you usually reduce the graphic level to a minimum shorty after to spot targets easier and faster
- scuf controllers
- mouse and keyboard adapters
- low inputlag gaming monitors
- dolby decoders with great stereo headphones
- gaming routers and high bandwidth connections
on PC having more frames with a better graphics card isnt something the devs do consider as unfair, so why would they on consoles?
if all the playstation pro does in multiplayer games is to increase the graphics on 1080p monitors then you might actually have an advantage playing on the regular playstation since additional graphic elements can make it harder to track targets
while its nice to play on ultra settings for a while you usually reduce the graphic level to a minimum shorty after to spot targets easier and faster
oneils
Member
It will upscale it to 1080p if there is no patch. Not quite the same as native 1080p.
MissCauthon
Member
Still have 2 questions after reading that FAQ.
1. Will it have full support of SSD's?
2. What is the decibels on this NEW console? or Will the fan be like a hair blow dryer?
1. Will it have full support of SSD's?
2. What is the decibels on this NEW console? or Will the fan be like a hair blow dryer?
oneils
Member
I got a question
On GAF, will there be Pro specific threads in relation to games?
It sounds ridiculous but I have no intention of getting the Pro yet. I sit down. I'm looking forward to something like, say, Last Guardian. I open the OT and 75% of the posts are
"What about the Pro version"?
"When are we getting the Pro patch"
"The visuals are Ok on ps4 but lol Pro destroys it"
"Pro saves this game"
"Pro takes it to another level"
It's going to get annoying in many ways. I appreciate this type of comparative posting is nothing new and hell, friendly swipes between Xbone-Ps4 versions and vice versa are old as time, but this 'Pro' debate seeping into every thread...I've been a console gamer from many decades and ever since the 'imagine the Neo version' postings from months back started I saw it as probably something that would drive me away from these kind of boards to be honest (and I love you all
Dunno. Maybe the beer talking.
Equally I know PC game threads and gamers must get this all the time but that was one of the factors that deterred me over the years of getting into that arms race.
The ots already have big discussions on what version of a multi platform game to get. Doesn't seem all that different.
Callibretto
Member
just a small question, if I download Horizon 4k video, and play it on 1080p tv, is that more or less what I'm going to get from PS4pro in 1080p tv? because watching that 4k video on my 1080p monitor, it still looks amazing imo.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I'd like to know that too, I'm guessing so.
Wonder if the USB on the back will allow external hard drives??
Maybe next year when the Scorpio comes out they can tackle it by bringing a firmware update to increase it to 6TF loll
Two questions:
1. Playing unpatched PS4 games on a Pro: will there be any kind of performance benefits (at least something like a more stable frame rate)? Example: 30fps as target for a game. On a standard PS4 there are dips from time to time. Could that be eliminated when playing the same unpatched game on a pro? I would guess so, but haven't read anything about it.
2. Have lots of games on my PS4. Is there be a transfer tool (e.g. via ethernet cable) to transfer my stuff to the PS4 pro? Don't want to redownload everything, would take ages.
1. Playing unpatched PS4 games on a Pro: will there be any kind of performance benefits (at least something like a more stable frame rate)? Example: 30fps as target for a game. On a standard PS4 there are dips from time to time. Could that be eliminated when playing the same unpatched game on a pro? I would guess so, but haven't read anything about it.
2. Have lots of games on my PS4. Is there be a transfer tool (e.g. via ethernet cable) to transfer my stuff to the PS4 pro? Don't want to redownload everything, would take ages.
Yeah I'd like to know about that.
The 360 could output all sorts of resolution (even including 16:10 ones, e.g. 1449*900). I hope you can set the PS4 Pro's output to 1440p in a similar fashion.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Seriously. It probably isn't or else they would have said something already. It's so important for load times
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
The big question is: Does the PS4 Pro use SATA III ? If so, a SSD harddrive would make a huge difference
Bl@de
Member
Yes
Ok guys, I asked Sid on Twitter about unpatched games and unfortunately, it sounds like they are indeed set to run just as they do on the standard PS4. Bummer, imo. Doesn't make sense for them to have this restriction.
They could work as they do on the xbox one s. A little better on both unlocked and fixed framerate games.
Gamezone
Gold Member
So if you don`t update or connect games online, you won`t have any benefits at all?
I'm just imagining the FFXV comparison thread.
Xbone and the Pro footage will be brutal.
Ok guys, I asked Sid on Twitter about unpatched games and unfortunately, it sounds like they are indeed set to run just as they do on the standard PS4. Bummer, imo. Doesn't make sense for them to have this restriction.
:/
Gamezone
Gold Member
Weird. The big thing with the PS4 at launch was the ability not having to connect online, no DRM, and so on.
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That means if a 30 locked game drop to 28 at some points, could be stable 30 on Pro, without patching or anything.