……forgetit
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It's not really upscaled, it's a Sony patent hardware solution that's weird and hard to explain.
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PS4 Pro: The Ultimate FAQ
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It's not really upscaled, it's a Sony patent hardware solution that's weird and hard to explain.
Sounds to me this is similar to Killzone Shadowfalls temporal rendering, only now in a hardware solution. Plus, since its being done from an even divisible image resolution, it doesn't have nearly as bad artifacting or blur.
It's not true 4K rendering, but it does offer a much sharper picture than 1080P and is filling 4K worth of unique pixles. (Some being temporal best guesses).
boujeejamboree
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By swap you mean having 2 or 3 drives that you swap regularly ?
If so, you can, but they need to have the same firmware installed. So when firmware updates, you need to do it on all your drives. That's how it was when I tried at least, dunno if that changed since.
You better hope they are wrong.
I want to slap an SSD on the PS4 back then but that thing is only using SATAII.
Yeah.
Sweet! Thank you
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Has sony said anything about games eventually requiring a neo mode? The way the faq is worded makes it sound optional...
Not a full list,but all games past october must include one by default.
Its not optional. They put in a disclaimer because september games require late patches, and won't be out at launch.
Yes. you will be able to do 4K@30hz if you have HDMI 1.4+ cables.
CyberChulo
Member
I'm pretty sure they said the system was for the hardcore PS4 gamer. Not the ultimate multimedia machine.
To be more accurate, there is no one universal way PS4 Pro is doing 4K.
It's entirely dependent on the game. Some will be 4K native, some - most I'm sure - will be reconstructing or resampling in some manner from higher res buffers (e.g. 1800p checkerboard , or whatever fits the games perf profile). For example, the elder scrolls online and the last of us remastered patches have 4K native modes.
That'd be sweet. I recently went back and finished the story, but I haven't played through Dead Kings yet.
dr_rus
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I find it hard to believe that they'll require to support Pro with additional effects or expanded res. Just supporting the Pro is very easy though since the h/w is fully compatible on a binary level (well, GPU is a bit different but nothing a thin API/driver can't fix). So "support" means nothing here as it may well mean that a game will work on the Pro with the exact same graphics as on OG PS4.
Hoping for an elite controller, got an extra light bar. Fuck off, Sony.
And yes, I realize it's not an extra light, just a clear part of the touchpad. Still shit.
This is incredibly helpful and I'm glad they acted quickly to get this out there.
That being said, they need to expand on this one more:
Many of us want to know if unpatched games can see improvements with PS4 Pro? Mainly, we want to know about games that struggled with framerate on PS4 or ran unlocked. We don't need a definite "yes, you'll see improvement." We just want to know if it's possible or if the Pro will default to a "legacy" mode.
That being said, they need to expand on this one more:
Many of us want to know if unpatched games can see improvements with PS4 Pro? Mainly, we want to know about games that struggled with framerate on PS4 or ran unlocked. We don't need a definite "yes, you'll see improvement." We just want to know if it's possible or if the Pro will default to a "legacy" mode.
Neuromancer
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Wait what? New controller too?
Absolutely want to know about this as well. My PS4 is incredibly loud, but I'm not going to crack it open to clean the fan until I hear more about the Pro.
I think not releasing a Pro Controller alongside the Pro Console is a huge missed opportunity for Sony. I don't even own Xbox, but MS is blowing them out of the water with their controller options right now (Elite plus the Design Lab).
Honestly, I'm more interested in a Pro DS4 controller than I am the Pro console.
Yeah, but the changes are very minor. It's in the FAQ.
Amazing, thanks again.
Thanks. Then there is HDMI 2.0a, which my TV apparently, hopefully, got an update for. For HDR content
Another question: will the Pro sense whether it is connected to a 4K HDR TV and automatically enable HDR content? I'm just wondering if I will need to do anything in my TV's settings to make it compatible. My Samsung does have UHD Color Option that you can toggle for each HDMI input. I'm supposing this is for HDR enabled signals?
Yea I'm curious about that as well. Does Sony even have a way to implement it running the same as the standard PS4?
Good question. I can't believe they would possibly waste the time to force something like that. It's why I'm leaning toward there being improvements to unpatched games...it's just one of those things they can't really promise or commit to publicly.
Then again...I was 100% sure it was going to play 4K Bluray as well, so who knows.
That is a question I want to ask myself too. But I really don't think you will need to turn on the HDR mode on your Samsung 4k TV as the PS4 Pro will already have its HDR mode automatically on (auto detection).
MissCauthon
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Devs will face backlash from Pro users trust me the AAA devs will have to please them or lose sales.
WonkyPanda
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I wonder if we will be able to literally just swap our current HD in there without reformatting.
Pai Pai Master
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Negative
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
I called that one. The old DS4 lightbar design has good pitch-angle tracking to the back side but less so the front, which this should help with.
But it also means you don't have to turn it towards you in local multiplayer to see what colour player you are. And it looks neat!
A third improvement not mentioned is the matte circle backings behind the dpad and face buttons.
WonkyPanda
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boujeejamboree
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Shin-Ra
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There's breaks in the rear, right side casing that look like the most likely place for HDD access.
Trojita
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Now I'm wondering what a Pro version of Senran Kagura will be like.
Even more Life and Hometown.
Yes and the usb on the back. This makes me happy now i can plug in my TB headset in the back of the console completely.
boujeejamboree
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bitbydeath
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It mentions you can hook the two up via ethernet and transfer everything providing you have firmware 4.00 or higher. Sounds better than the backup method.
PLASTICA-MAN
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What about PS2 games downloaded from the store? Do they get a native 4K support?
Electret
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I assume the console-to-console data transfer via Ethernet must be carried out through a router/switch, rather than directly attaching the consoles to each other. If that were the case, I don't think they could have said "standard" Ethernet cable, as, IIRC, a CAT6 or higher cable is required for direct Ethernet connections.
Pretty sure you could do transfer on PS3 just by connecting both with ethernet, it's been a while though I may be misremembering
Suzushiiro
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I'd presume the "virtually all" line is because they're not requiring games that release in one territory before the Pro launch (or whatever the cutoff point for requiring Pro support is) and another territory after launch to do a Pro build. Which is a sensible exception to make, though I am hoping that Persona 5 and Tales of Berseria get them anyway.
You're right i did it when i bought a ps3 slim to replace the fat