Eliciel
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So it actually "worked" ? o.o
this is insane. I'm thrilled to see how this continues from here on.
We should thank him and follow him on twitter from here on. This is big for us and don't forget the hashtags
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So it actually "worked" ? o.o
this is insane. I'm thrilled to see how this continues from here on.
We should thank him and follow him on twitter from here on. This is big for us and don't forget the hashtags
Baller. PhD
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It needs to be a unified message though. If we start fragmenting our goal and have people advocating for one console over the other or using different messaging, that will make things worse. We need as many people as possible under a unified banner.
Psycho_Mantis
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SolidSnakex
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It's pretty sad that NBC has written a story about it before IGN has said anything about it. Don't get me wrong, i'm not surprised that IGN hasn't said anything since Colin has repeatedly said that he's in favor of this DRM, but it's still sad that the biggest gaming site doesn't want to touch it. I believe that they're the only major site that hasn't said a word about it.
IcyRhythms
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Didn't Sony already say that they were going to leave DRM strategies up to the developers?
I'm glad they are listening but Sony will ultimately give in to what the developer wants. If they want to keep third party support, they'll do whatever guys like EA and Activision tell them to.
I'm glad they are listening but Sony will ultimately give in to what the developer wants. If they want to keep third party support, they'll do whatever guys like EA and Activision tell them to.
IonicSnake
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I tweeted,
"Because DRM is bad no matter who does it #PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES #XboxOneUSEDGAMES #XboxOneNoDRM"
Is that a fragmented message? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And in case you didn't notice, people were already advocating one console over another. The equivalent Xbox thread has three pages.
famousmortimer
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I put the microsoft info in the OP last night and asked at the time for a title change. It's totally cool with me.
Edit: Though as the OP i don't claim to speak for anyone in here, who probably did more than me.
Edit: Though as the OP i don't claim to speak for anyone in here, who probably did more than me.
Baller. PhD
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What is not "inclusive" about putting pressure on Sony?
Erm, okay then!
Officerrob
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I'm totally in favor of adding MS as part of this
If they are staying out of it to further some political agenda then you know what, screw em. Right now this is one of the biggest gaming stories going on right now and if they don't want to support this, then they miss out on sharing in this event not to mention doing a disservice to their readers by not reporting it.
Baller. PhD
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That's because Microsoft already stated that Xbone will have DRM. This campaign was to influence Sony, who still hadn't committed one way or another. That's why PS4 was chosen as the target.
But fine, I just really hope you guys aren't fucking this up.
Nice! It's not front page, but it IS front page tech.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Unified under a Sony banner? Everyone is seemingly ignoring the more important fact that MS actually plan this feature whereas Sony were only rumoured to be doing it.
We should be focusing on MS much more than Sony, but alas...console/brand allegiance BS seems to be getting in the way.
famousmortimer
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I think the title is perfect.... because both should be listening.
If somebody I know does something dickish, I don't usually respond by going to my friends and asking them not to do the same thing. I tell the person that what they did was dickish and I would prefer that they change. That's how I see it.
The message was brought about by Sony fans not wanting the PS4 to have DRM - they should be taking credit for this fantastic achievement.
It's certainly nothing to do with console BS.
Completely agree that this should be perceived as a platform agnostic movement. But people created an Xbox One specific thread that quickly deflated from lack of interest, disenchantment or apathy. Some posters even advocated that MS was in its right and were in favor of an anti-used drm setting. Lumping these two attitudes (one proactive the other apathetic or even pro anti-used games) can result toxic to this whole effort. Just my 2 cents though.
There were many weeks on GAF where the rumors from Microsoft were discussed in a lot of detail. There are countless of articles written about the leaks on the various games industry websites.
One Microsoft employee was fired about him speaking about this topic and how the reception on the Internet was bad for him.
Microsoft is well aware of what a lot of people on the 'Net think about this issue.
SolidSnakex
Member
This isn't about any console wars bullshit. This campaign was targeted at Sony specifically because famousmortimer said that they're currently wavering on whether or not to implement it. He saw that and others saw that as an opportunity to tell them how we feel about it in order to possibly influence them in the direction of not using it.
famousmortimer
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To be fair, to myself
, I only knew of Sony's plans and sony twitter handles. I also never thought it was going to turn into this. As soon as it did we expanded it to be much more than what my initial post was. Microsoft folks haven't latched on to it. The MS info in the OP is taken for a thread that someone made just like this one but for MS and people were imploring him not to push it because they want the DRM. It was really bizarre.
It is not brand loyalty. Sony is the main target because famousmortimer had inside info that Sony was wavering. THAT's the reason this campaign took off. There is evidence that MS is wavering too after the huge backlash, but priorities - we chose Sony as the first target, and the entire momentum up to now has been on pressuring them. I'm not saying we shouldn't pressure MS also (we should) but we can't take the focus off Sony. There has to be a central target, and Sony is it.
SilentFlyer
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I don't think changing OP title will have an opposite effect on the cause but rather it will still remain unified. It will provide MS fans a hub to find and tweet the required person. Cause is not only to push Sony to change their DRM policies (if any) but also put pressure MS so that both remains on the same boat.
I think the problem is that MS including it is a foregone conclusion. Or at least that's the perception. Not so much that there's console allegiance. If Sony would have been the first to detail their used game plans, then this campaign would have likely been focused on the Xbox One to start.
Knux-Future
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The entire topic was started because according to the OP, Sony was wavering. They had apparently put it in place but took it back because of MS backlash. Thus this campaign was started to make sure they keep it that way.
That is why it was Sony centric.
No Fanboy BS at play here.
Sony is apparently at a crossroad, Microsoft is seemingly pass it.
That is why it was Sony centric.
No Fanboy BS at play here.
Sony is apparently at a crossroad, Microsoft is seemingly pass it.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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I said this very often in this topic: Every gamer should be onboard, but changing hashtags now would be bad. Other than that yes, tell Microsoft as well.
Haha yeah I think you are good. I have twitter but literally never tweet, and actually think it is kind of silly. However, drastic times call for drastic measures.
Officerrob
Banned
I think this is a great unified tweet
IonicSnake
Banned
Tweeted Patrick Stewart since he have voiced in a lot of video games. Not expecting much though.
All people have to do is post those same hashtags on Microsoft's/Employees twitter accounts. There is no need to swap them as many have said and will be the case.
If anything posting #PS4 anything to Microsoft and their employees probably has more weight than any new hashtag.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Is there a way to make both publishers and gamers happy?
Make Sad Keanu sit in the PS4 controller.
Publishers will follow the money, don't worry about that. This is an issue about consumer rights, and no amount of happy pubs are worth losing the right to resell and trade.
Impeccable
Member
Incentives to purchase new games. Done.
Flightmare
Member
Sweet, they used my tweets
No. It just started because Sony was apparently not sure on their stance, so we wanted to influence them.
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