TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
If I was to pick up the same stuff I did with my PS4 at launch which cost me £530 it would be £740
Thats a big difference
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PS5 price - Seems like MediaMark NL may have leaked it
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Thats a big difference
That because companies scam eu users. The dollar parity....
Unknown?
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Huh are you thinking Series S? Series X isn't 3xs the power of a PS5, it has same amount of ram, and doesn't have double the storage of a ps5. Literally everything you said was wrong except for the disc drive.
And now imagine, if this loss wasn't 100$ but 150-200$. That's the quarter of yearly Playstation revenue
gamerguywashere
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are devs forced to use 4k on ps5?...that 16% diff might not be much if a ps5 game can put all its power at 1440p
something the seriesS wouldn't have the horsepower to run
lock2k
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Watch Sony bring the PS5 to Brazil with a R$ 7999 price tag. Morons will pay, suck their balls and cheer for them on social networks. I hate this country.
Dodkrake
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To be fair, our prices include VAT. A 499 console costs 405 euro without VAT, which is less than 499 dollars
ethomaz
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While I hate the price... I already made plans to buy it at day one.
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lock2k
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Are you willing to pay a price like that?
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ethomaz
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If that is the only option... yes.
I'm looking for alternatives... the PS4 launched here at 4000 but I brought it at 2700 on the first day.
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Blond
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And no games to play after 2 years which by that point playstation will be full steam ahead
lock2k
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No offense, but this is why companies will never respect this place. They prefer to sell 10 high priced units instead of 50 reasonably priced units. I'm almost on my 40's but I hope someday I can get out of here for good.
TheContact
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there will be plenty of games, and good exclusives on both sides.
Blond
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Man, Microsoft's track record says otherwise and everything so far looks like Gamepass fodder. Even if the prices were equal I'd still want games to play
MarkMe2525
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MS is charging $499 and €449 for series x so Sony may follow suit.
ethomaz
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You are mixing things.
You not buying a product because it is expensive won't make it drop in price.
We need to vote in politicians that can better make a tax reform... high price is not the only issue with the system... everything is high price in Brasil today including our own basic food like Rice.
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lock2k
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I worked inside the gaming industry for 6 years and I owned a retail store. Trust me, it's not politicians. (they play a part, but not the whole part).,
I've been working in the auto industry since then and it's the same shenanigans. They know people pay, they charge whatever they want to. All rigged.
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KaiserBecks
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I know how to read just fine, thank you. But since I speak Dutch, in this case I don't need any tweets or somebody else's opinion in order to realize that this has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of "leak" whatsoever.
Investor9872
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Yup. It's a scary proposition for Sony. You are not going to make that $1 - $2 billion dollars back from their online ecosystem's profits for at least 2-3 years, which is half the lifetime of the PS5. I think Sony knows this, and that is why they had waited this long to release their prices for the PS5. Usually, prices are announced at E3 in June or a bit later, but never 2 months before the launching of a new generational console.
I know people are expecting the BOM to go down significantly over the lifetime of the PS5 and XSX. But I don't believe the drop in the component cost will be as dramatic or as significant as we have seen with pass consoles. These components in these next-gen console are high-end, technologically advanced specs. It's not going to be easy to produce smaller, more efficient update versions of these components during this gen.
turtlepowa
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Nothing new, it was already listed for 499 on Amazon.fr in June.
Yes the current parity, but we have payed the same 1:1 on PS3 era, when 1€ was 1.3-1.4 dollars
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ethomaz
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It is all the same in all places that is why we need for years a tax reform.
I family has a pet foods distribution company and it is exactly the same.
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lock2k
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Yeah, it fucking sucks.
But if people didn't buy expensive stuff in droves it would at least force companies not to treat us like clowns everytime - instead, they know Brazilians are stupid and pay whatever they ask. This is why cars who can be bought by averajoe joes in mere months are considered luxury vehicles here. I never buy consoles here, I always import them or buy them from other sources. I would never pay a premium like the PS4 which was priced R$ 4000 in 2013 - that was insane. Instead I imported it from amazon and paid R$ 1800 taxes included at the time. Now I moved to PC because consoles (which should be the reasonably priced end of gaming) became a complete luxury thing here and it fucking sucks.
LED Guy?
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No I don't think they're necessarily forced to run all their all their games at 4K, we've seen with how games running at much lower resolutions with good reconstruction techniques look like, the problem like you said is with the Xbox Series S having problem running games that already ran at 1440p on PS5.
Entroyp
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Isn’t the Series X 499 Euros and 449 Sterling Pounds?
Aggelos
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Exede
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They dpn´t need to get even with this console. They´ll make good money with it with every purchase one makes in the store. 60$ for them instead of 60$ - shipping - store margin - whatever i forgot. not even considering that physical is like always cheaper in general than digital.
AgentP
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I think you are right, the low end SKU is going to be the loss leader to push more people into higher margin digital games. The disc version will probably be near break even.
M1chl
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Breh that's price of fucking 3090 with EU vat on the top of that.
In areas where physical is more prevalent this works. In areas where digital is more prevalent it isn't that easy.
For example the US does quite well on digital, one of the main reasons is probably that new titles are typically the same price digitally as they are physically whereas in say Europe they're typically lower by a decent enough margin that buying digital just isn't very appealing.
On a full priced $60 game it depends whose estimates you trust, but taking an average, Sony/MS would make roughly $10 more on a digital sale vs. a physical sale.
So if your net loss on the digital console sale was $100 more compared to the optical drive version you would need to sell 10 games to every one who bought that digital edition to break even.
So far that sounds great, because I believe the current tie ratio sits around 15 games per console sold.
The trouble is people already buy digital games, so it is actually more than 10 games you'd need to sell because they're going to be buying those digital games anyway even if a digital edition didn't exist.
So going back to my earlier comment if your market is already buying more digital games then someone who buys a digital console is converting fewer of their purchases into digital. For example if the digital/physical split in the US is 50/50 (no idea what it is, maybe someone does, people keep saying digital is the majority now...) and assuming the tie ratio for this gen ends up being similar (15) then a digital console owner would be converting 7/8 physical purchases into digital ones meaning you're making $70/80 more than you would have otherwise done - not $150.
But it gets worse still, because the person who buys a digital console probably isn't your average user. So the ratio for their digital purchases probably isn't 50/50, but instead already favouring digital meaning it is even harder to recoup that $100.
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CrysisFreak
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Just lol the Dutch call it Winkelwagen instead of Einkaufswagen what the fuck is this shit jeez annex that barbaric hellhole.Put both consoles in my Winkelwagen.
Well, I have bad news for you poorasses...
Send magic truffles pls.
Michael Hawk
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Yes, because they (Sony) didn't design the PS5 based on what Philip Spencer was doing.
Ignoring the brand new controller for PS5 (which introduces new costs via haptics and all that other shit) vs pretty much the same controller as last-gen for the Series S and Series X's, the consoles weren't designed to go after the same thing. The PS5 goes for speed > more trees in the distance while the Series X goes for more trees in the distance > speed. Neither approach is 'wrong', however, both approaches introduce costs that the other one doesn't have to deal with, i.e. SSD + I/O innovations for PS5, GPU for Series X.
So charging $500 for PS5 (I think it will be higher but we'll see) and charging $500 for the Series X makes sense as it's not the same $500 of design decisions. Sorta like the difference between a $500,000 Lamborghini and a $500,000 Rolls Royce. Their prices are justified as they're targeting different things.
lock2k
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I can see them pricing it as $499 and dropping the price of the Pro at the same time.
El Pistolero
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See you in a few months.
LeftThumbstick
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How can you be surprised with that custom and was one of the fastest SSD’s to exist?
ultrazilla
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I hope it's $599 so all the salty people will say "fuck that" and I'll be able to snag one.
Search your feelings, you know you agree with me.
McCarth
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What's the rush? If they were targeting $399 for the DE all along, there's no need to rush.
Sony's view might be that the vast majority of casual gamers would easily pony up the extra $100 from the Series S for what I'm sure their marketing will push to be 'a true next-gen console'.
If their announcement is along the same lines it'll be quite a punch. No need to be reactionary.
Physiognomonics
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Placeholder. Sony won't give the price of their console before the official statement.
Fart Knight
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what the hell is that language
i think that's deutch or something... Srsly
THE DUTCH
Cmon now
Bo_Hazem
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My friends when I told them that the PS5 will end up being sold at around 220 OMR ($572) and for PS5DE to be around 181 OMR ($470) they said I'm crazy because it's extremely cheap and should be sold at around 450 OMR ($1170) like the early gray market PS4's in November 2013!
I'm glad that Sony is going for international release this time around to avoid such filthy gray market attempts, I know plenty will fight to pay that much to get it. If it was the official price I have no problem at all, but we know it's not when it's 2-3x the official price.
Ps5ProFoSho
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This is always the case. They more than make up for it with PS Plus, PS Now, and digital game and microtransaction sales
Azurro
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The prices in europe include sales tax, which is of about 20% in many countries. So it's 400 euro and that's it, not 400 euro + German sales tax or polish sales tax or Czech sales tax.