QuantumZebra
Member
So you want to exterminate people that buy in bulk and resell products?
I hope you don't visit a Costco anytime soon... yikes.
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PS5 scalping ring has no regrets, draws huge backlash
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So you want to exterminate people that buy in bulk and resell products?
I hope you don't visit a Costco anytime soon... yikes.
Malakhov
Banned
Nah, healthcare worker, I think his work is enough for society, it's just a sweet little bonus for him
Malakhov
Banned
So hasbro should do something about people scalping toys? Issue apologies? Nike with shoes? Nvidia with Rtx 3000? And I can go on and on
The fuck you can hear these days
Hope you didn't get an Rtx 3080 or 6800xt since that would make you one hell of an hypocrite, cause you know, sticking with pc
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Well one of the scalpers got robbed of his stash of PS5's so that made me feel good.
Was that real? Seemed like a story to me.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Yeah that's what I thought as well. Unsure to be honest. The twitter account was deleted so I find it weird the guy would delete the account so soon after bragging about his PS5 haul.
Casanova
Member
So hasbro should do something about people scalping toys? Issue apologies? Nike with shoes? Nvidia with Rtx 3000? And I can go on and on
The fuck you can hear these days
Hope you didn't get an Rtx 3080 or 6800xt since that would make you one hell of an hypocrite, cause you know, sticking with pc
Yeah, I didn't. I don't really get your point. As a consumer, I'm pissed. I don't expect to hear an apology, but my personal stance is that I won't be trying to purchase one until then or until they get their shit together. Saying it's the "best console launch ever" is complete bullshit for the consumer. Period. The companies that do give a shit about their consumers and do something to prevent this from happening will benefit from it - but hey, keep being a bootlicker to them because "capitalism doesn't care about your feelings".
Umbral
Member
Calm down with the melodrama.
Costco doesn’t price gouge.
By contributing nothing in regards to the PS5 itself. He’s a rent-seeker.
The fault is with the people dumb enough to buy from the scalpers. They wait a bit then buy a PS5 when it's restocked for less than half the price they would've done. It's not as if there's anything really compelling to play that's exclusive to PS5 right now. The scalpers would get left high and dry and this practice dies down in the future. I'm not sure what Sony are able to do about it.
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20cent
Banned
Yeah, it's exactly the same thing, buying bulk quantities from distributor and using questionable ways to buy stuff at msrp and resell tax free on gray market...
Cretin. Yikes.
kiphalfton
Member
I think it's a good litmus test, to show you who is and isn't a rationale/level headed person. Is it annoying there's no stock to buy? Definitely. However, it's not that big of a deal and not worth getting all worked up over it.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
System in tight supply due to scalper? Who cares. Wait till next year.
I guess it seems the people who don't like it have never been to a sports event or concert where if you don't try to buy tickets online on opening ticket day at 9 am on ticketmaster, it's sold out by 10 am. The season is then sold out and the next best thing for the singer is to try buying tickets for their next concert two hours away in a different city when those tickets go up for sale.
Then you either got to get scalped tickets or know a friend who might get you tickets from work (for a random game you don't even care about).
Gaming isn't going away eager beavers. Xbox Series X and PS5 will be around for another 6-7 years.
I guess it seems the people who don't like it have never been to a sports event or concert where if you don't try to buy tickets online on opening ticket day at 9 am on ticketmaster, it's sold out by 10 am. The season is then sold out and the next best thing for the singer is to try buying tickets for their next concert two hours away in a different city when those tickets go up for sale.
Then you either got to get scalped tickets or know a friend who might get you tickets from work (for a random game you don't even care about).
Gaming isn't going away eager beavers. Xbox Series X and PS5 will be around for another 6-7 years.
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Malakhov
Banned
The point is your post made no sense at all, going on a rant about how sony needs to apologise, blah blah blah. This is nothing new and no one cares besides individuals who are bitter about it. The company sells theirs products, they don't care whoever gets it as long as it's no longer on the shelves and they don't owe anything to anyone. Go cry a river
Ain't renting with all the money he made from it
reinking
Gold Member
Maybe he realized how dumb it was to post that info and then made up the "already been robbed" thing to throw people off.
Casanova
Member
The point is your post made no sense at all, going on a rant about how sony needs to apologise, blah blah blah. This is nothing new and no one cares besides individuals who are bitter about it. The company sells theirs products, they don't care whoever gets it as long as it's no longer on the shelves and they don't owe anything to anyone. Go cry a river
Ain't renting with all the money he made from it
It does make sense. Might not make sense to you, but you have your opinions clearly. It makes complete sense to me as a consumer to not purchase a product from a company who I feel isn't doing good by it's consumers. A lot of folks care, clearly - regardless of bitterness. It's just your shitty opinion that no one cares but that doesn't make it true. Also, of course they don't "owe" anyone anything, but that's not the point I was trying to make. Learn to read. Go lick a corporate boot.
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QuantumZebra
Member
I love the analogy because its dead-on. I guess a lot of these folks haven't been to concerts, lol. I remember debating pulling the trigger on $500 for a pair of Tool tickets and someone else got em before I did.
People should be angry at capitalism (IE there's no one to be mad at except the vendors for not using CAPTCHA or other script prevention measures). Vote with your wallet, if it matters that much.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Totally.
I guess no gamers live in a city where the entire season's worth of tickets are sold out in about half an hour - Toronto Maple Leafs.
The arena holds around 19,000 seats for hockey, and 15,000 of the seats are held by season ticket holding individuals and corporations. So you only got 4,000 seats per game for the general public to fight over.
30 minutes later, it's done for the year. As Leaf fans say, always next year. Then you try again refreshing ticketmaster next year hoping the portal lets you in.
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Gamerguy84
Member
There were lots of bulk scalpers. The ones that probably did the most damage were the smaller ones collectively.
If its not obvious everyone and their brother had this idea. Get one, sell two. Free PS5 and extra money. I know some people here that own one, have already sold one or more, and are looking for more right now.
Couple all that with the scalping drawing even more scalpers in and I see it being a problem for quite a while TBH.
I tried getting one but don't have a lot of time to dedicate to it. Stock trackers went off while I was working or doing something with family, etc. Some people stayed up all night and dedicated days to getting them, and will again.
I will be looking again January or February and this shit will probably still be going on.
If its not obvious everyone and their brother had this idea. Get one, sell two. Free PS5 and extra money. I know some people here that own one, have already sold one or more, and are looking for more right now.
Couple all that with the scalping drawing even more scalpers in and I see it being a problem for quite a while TBH.
I tried getting one but don't have a lot of time to dedicate to it. Stock trackers went off while I was working or doing something with family, etc. Some people stayed up all night and dedicated days to getting them, and will again.
I will be looking again January or February and this shit will probably still be going on.
Malakhov
Banned
Nah, obviously no bitterness, it's so clear. You totally make sense, sure, not totally warped by anger, like, at all
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Umbral
Member
I think you assume I’m against profit. I’m not. I’m against parasites.The point is your post made no sense at all, going on a rant about how sony needs to apologise, blah blah blah. This is nothing new and no one cares besides individuals who are bitter about it. The company sells theirs products, they don't care whoever gets it as long as it's no longer on the shelves and they don't owe anything to anyone. Go cry a river
Ain't renting with all the money he made from it
Malakhov
Banned
Better to be a parasite gorged with money than just a parasite filled with anger
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I agree with this, although I think events isn't a good example. For events you might not have another opportunity even if you wait, whereas you can always wait for restocks of the PS5 even if takes months. I missed out on purchasing the RTX3080 months ago and the situation has yet to improve, so I am going to wait things out and buy it few months later. They ain't going away, relax.
CityHunter1981
Member
I am also salty, since I couldn't get one and still searching for one. I live in Japan and unfortunately (for me) Sony targets the bigger markets of America and Europe now, so they only allocated a lower number of units to Japan.
And while I hate these scalpers, I am more angry at the distributors which made it possible for them to get so many consoles. Let's take Amazon, would it have been so hard to implement a captcha to prevent bots to buy the console or to restrict the number of units to 1 per customer from the start? But these are retailers and the sad fact is that they don't care as long as they make their money.
Still Amazon here gets stock from time to time, but it is nearly impossible to come through to make your order, due to all the bots making the orders.
And while I hate these scalpers, I am more angry at the distributors which made it possible for them to get so many consoles. Let's take Amazon, would it have been so hard to implement a captcha to prevent bots to buy the console or to restrict the number of units to 1 per customer from the start? But these are retailers and the sad fact is that they don't care as long as they make their money.
Still Amazon here gets stock from time to time, but it is nearly impossible to come through to make your order, due to all the bots making the orders.
Umbral
Member
Even better to be productive.
mcz117chief
Member
This confuses me a bit though. Don't electronic devices lose money on hardware? Scalpers don't usually buy software so it would seem like a loss to sell just the consoles.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
these parasites don't deserve the time of day..
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It don't matter. SOMEONE will buy software who buys that scalped ps5
mcz117chief
Member
Yeah but at that point it doesn't have to be the store making the software sale. When you got a customer you try to sell him as much as you can.
Malakhov
Banned
As someone so obsessed with productivity, you sure as hell are less productive than the ones you like to complain about, on an online forum.
That seems very productive
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Dr_Salt
Member
Found the scalper.
Malakhov
Banned
Nope, don't have time for that sadly. I actually returned the extra ps5s I ordered to be able to secure mine on launch. 4 ordered and failed to get it day one
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Or sell as many games and accessories.
Zog
Banned
This isn't the place for logic.
<mumble> <mumble> capitalism <mumble> entitled consumer <mumble> <mumble>
TalentedMrJ
Member
I've been around since the NES and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth the way things are being handled by all parties
Am I salty? Sure
But I know damn well had I got one I'd be hyped for a few days and by January it'd lose it's luster and be a dust collector like all that came before it
A good way to practice patience
I'd love for these shit bags to be stuck with them and unable to return or resell
Am I salty? Sure
But I know damn well had I got one I'd be hyped for a few days and by January it'd lose it's luster and be a dust collector like all that came before it
A good way to practice patience
I'd love for these shit bags to be stuck with them and unable to return or resell
Umbral
Member
Weak.As someone so obsessed with productivity, you sure as hell are less productive than the ones you like to complain about, on an online forum.
That seems very productive
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Malakhov
Banned
I know enough about someone spewing shit about productivity not being productive whining in a thread.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Scalpers making big coin dumping next gen consoles for double or triple the price, that's supply and demand for ya.
And marketing too.
The reason why so many people want it so bad is because they need to be the first to play their shiny piece of plastic (which is 95% cross gen games), or be in the mindset it's a holiday gift, so nothing says Christmas than a new toy.
I totally get it. For many people, there's a big difference between loading up on new console gear before Christmas than waiting to buy it in April when the only thing going around is chocolate easter eggs.
But hey, it's your money. Have fun taking a risk on scalpers where you're not even going to get a warranty receipt in case the system bricks.
And marketing too.
The reason why so many people want it so bad is because they need to be the first to play their shiny piece of plastic (which is 95% cross gen games), or be in the mindset it's a holiday gift, so nothing says Christmas than a new toy.
I totally get it. For many people, there's a big difference between loading up on new console gear before Christmas than waiting to buy it in April when the only thing going around is chocolate easter eggs.
But hey, it's your money. Have fun taking a risk on scalpers where you're not even going to get a warranty receipt in case the system bricks.
Yselacrey00
Banned
I don't agree. How can the PS5 be in tight supply because of the scalpers? What? so they bought millions of it? Of course not. This scalper ring is bragging about buying 3,500 PS5s, 3,500. That's less than 0.1% of the total produced units. This has nothing to do with the scalpers, it's Sony's fault, they underproduced and under delivered. Why? I don't know, maybe they wanted to create a virtual demand for the product or maybe they thought it wouldn't sell well because of the massive lackluster launch lineup. I mean, they might have a point there, how could someone expect to sell a lot if they only have 1 exclusive game and it's a remaster of a PS3 game?
Anyway, this is Sony's fault, not the scalpers. But now that the PS5 has launched we'll see a lot more availability because there's no more guess work, retailers now have real numbers as well as Sony, so they know they have to produce more. It's not like the production line stopped until next year, neither Sony nor retailers are backordering, so we will have more drops in the coming weeks and everyone who wants one will be able to buy it.
OldBoyGamer
Banned
Isn’t scalping just the way of capitalism?
Casanova
Member
Nah, obviously no bitterness, it's so clear. You totally make sense, sure, not totally warped by anger, like, at all
By that logic, you're angry as well for no reason at all (i.e. the go cry a river line was said by you, first). Cool assumption, though. Warped is a bizarre word to use when I'm just chilling and waiting around for Sony to address it. I'm not rioting, crying, or really upset at all. lmao. Get a grip and quit trolling. They're just not doing good by their consumers. Period.
Malakhov
Banned
Sony will not adress anything and they don't have to. You sound like an entitled brat.
Either shell out the extra bucks and get one from a reseller or wait to pick it up in store. End of story
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Yes pretty much. It's pretty much econ 101.
devilNprada
Member
Yeah It's the shoe fuckers who do it year round... Console purchasers were at a disadvantage...
I hope they get caught not paying the tax, and then it goes back through all the shoes they didn't pay tax on either...