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Psychology Today: less intelligence = more religious. GAF prepares Fedoras

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ronito

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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...201401/more-knowledge-less-belief-in-religion


A recent review of studies found that religious belief is inversely associated with intelligence. That is, more intelligent people are generally less likely to be religious. The reasons for this are not fully understood, although some of the main theories were discussed in Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic’s article. Dr Chamorro-Premuzic also made the intriguing suggestion that the relationship between religiosity and intelligence might be mediated by the personality trait known as openness to experience. A related possibility is that greater knowledge about religion and the world in general might play some role in explaining why more intelligent people tend to be less religious.

To summarise briefly, a recent review of 63 studies showed that there is a moderate negative relationship between intelligence and religiosity (Zuckerman, Silberman, & Hall, 2013). The review found that religious beliefs, such as belief in God, are somewhat more strongly related to lower intelligence than religious behavior, such as church attendance. The authors estimated that the average difference in IQ points between believers and nonbelievers ranged from 6.2 for non-college samples to 7.8 for college samples. This difference is roughly half a standard deviation in size, so this represents a reasonably substantial effect rather than something trivial.

Studies like this are correlational in nature, so it is not possible to decide for sure what is causing the relationship. That is, we do not know whether intelligence causes people to be less religious, whether religion dampens a person’s intelligence, or whether there is some third variable underlying both. Dr Chamorro-Premuzic proposed that an underlying factor that might link intelligence and religiosity could be the personality trait openness to experience. This trait refers to the breadth and complexity of a person’s mental life. Openness to experience is positively correlated with general intelligence. Additionally, studies have found that non-religious people tend to be higher in openness to experience than the religious (Galen & Kloet, 2011), and that greater openness to experience is associated with more disbelief in God (Shenhav, Rand, & Greene, 2011). (I have written about this in a previous post here.)

Openness to experience, along with intelligence, is also associated with greater general knowledge of the world. This may be because people who are high in openness to experience are intellectually curious and therefore motivated to learn new things about the world. I think this is interesting because a Pew Forum survey on the religious knowledge of Americans found that atheists and agnostics[1] had substantially more knowledge of religion than Christians on average. (A summary of the survey results can be viewed here, while the full report is here. You can take the quiz yourself here.) In fact, atheists and agnostics scored higher on religious knowledge than any other group surveyed, including those who were “nothing in particular”[2], although Jews and Mormons also scored higher than the remaining groups interestingly enough. A breakdown of the results showed that Mormons had the most knowledge about Christianity, although atheists/agnostics and Jews knew more about Christianity than mainstream Christians on average. Atheists/agnostics, closely followed by Jews, had the most knowledge of world religions, such as Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism. Atheists/agnostics and Jews tend to be more educated than the other groups, and more education is associated with greater religious knowledge. However, even after taking education into account, atheists/agnostics and Jews still maintained their knowledge advantage over Christians generally. The Pew survey also included a short test of general knowledge for comparative purposes. Atheists and agnostics also scored higher on this test than any other group, although Jews were again a close second, Mormons did somewhat less well, and other Christians were even further behind. Additionally, those who did well on the test of religious knowledge also tended to score well on general knowledge too, suggesting that those who know a lot about religion tend to be more knowledgeable in general.

The Pew survey report did not offer an explanation of why atheists/agnostics showed greater religious knowledge than most religious people. A number of possible explanations come to mind. As noted previously, people who are not religious tend to be more intelligent than the religious, and there is a positive association between intelligence and knowledge. An additional consideration is that atheists/agnostics, being higher in openness to experience, may have more interest in acquiring knowledge in general than the religious. This raises a question about the direction of causality. Does rejection of religion motivate people to gain more knowledge or does gaining knowledge lead to rejection of religion? Arguments can be made for each of these, although the actual answer might involve a combination of both, or even some third factor.

Dave Silverman, president of the American Atheists, interpreted the results of the Pew survey to mean that the more someone learns about religion the more likely they are to reject it as mythology. This may well be true for some people, but the results of the survey suggest more nuanced possibilities. For example, the survey showed that higher religious commitment (referring to personal importance of religion and frequency of attendance of religious services) was associated with greater knowledge of the Bible but not of non-Christian religions. As noted earlier, Mormons actually showed the most knowledge of Christianity, but also were not particularly knowledgeable about world religions. This suggests that being knowledgeable about one’s own religion at least does not necessarily lead a person to reject it. On the other hand, the survey also found that people with greater religious commitment scored less well on the general knowledge questions than those who were less committed. It might be that people who are religiously committed mainly seek out information that confirms their existing views, and are less interested in information about alternative belief systems or about secular matters. Atheists/agnostics were more knowledgeable about world religions, so perhaps being aware of alternative belief systems might facilitate the realization that they are all basically arbitrary. On the other hand, atheists/agnostics also scored higher on general knowledge, so it might be that a person’s desire to gain knowledge about a wide range of subjects increases the likelihood of their becoming an unbeliever. Alternatively, it may be that people who have a particular thirst for knowledge find religious belief incompatible with their natural curiosity. Recently, Pope Francis actually stated that “the spirit of curiosity distances one from God.” Many atheists and agnostics may well agree.

Furthermore, some scholars have argued that conservative and fundamentalist religious beliefs can discourage learning (Sherkat, 2010). The Pew survey found that respondents who believed that the Bible was the literal word of God tended to have less religious knowledge than those who endorsed a less literal interpretation, particularly those who said it was a collection of fables. Other studies have found that conservative Christians and fundamentalists tend to have poorer knowledge of science (Sherkat, 2011) and to have a poorer vocabulary (Sherkat, 2010) compared to other religious groups and the religiously unaffiliated. Sherkat (2010) has argued that conservative Christians actually shun information from external sources and scorn the search for knowledge as sinful in that it is equated with pridefulness and self-love. Additionally, they try to “purify” information sources they attend to, e.g. only viewing media sources that are loyal to Christian doctrine. Such close-minded attitudes may then prove a barrier to learning, resulting in less knowledge.

It could be that religious fundamentalism inhibits a person ability to acquire knowledge, or it may be that people who lack interest in expanding their worldview have a preference for narrow minded belief systems. Orthodox religious beliefs generally seem to discourage people from questioning core tenets which are supposed to be accepted on faith. However, it is possible that some religions are more supportive of learning than others. The studies in the review by Zuckerman et al. mainly looked at Christian denominations rather than other religions, such as Jewish. As noted earlier, Jews scored very highly not only on religious questions but on general knowledge as well. Jewish culture traditionally places a high value on intellectual activities, such as reading, that facilitate acquiring knowledge (Fejgin, 1995). Perhaps Jews generally do not share the Pope’s view that curiosity distances people from God?

As noted earlier, Mormons did somewhat less well on general knowledge than atheists/agnostics and Jews, but somewhat better than other Christians. Additionally, they were more knowledgeable about Christianity than other Christians. Unfortunately, I currently have no idea why this might be the case. Future research studies might examine whether there is something special about Mormons that would account for this.

Based on the foregoing I am inclined to think that one of the reasons that higher intelligence is associated with less religious belief might have something to do with the desire that intelligent people have to acquire knowledge. Intelligence tends to be associated with openness to experience, and one of the core features of openness to experience is intellectual curiosity. People with high levels of intellectual curiosity might access more information that helps them to question religious beliefs. Alternatively, such people might find religious beliefs unappealing insofar as they discourage intellectual activity. However, it should be noted that the relationship between intelligence and religiosity in non-Christian traditions has not yet been examined. Perhaps this relationship applies more to people from Christian rather than say Jewish backgrounds, because of the more intellectual nature of the Jewish religion.[3] Longitudinal studies, which follow up respondents over extended periods of time, would be needed to determine what role the desire for knowledge might play in shaping a person’s religious identity, and whether this mediates the relationship between intelligence and religious belief.

Finally, I know that this is a sensitive subject, and I want to point out that the statistical trends discussed in the studies cited should not be interpreted as absolute generalizations and that exceptions apply. Some religious people are highly intelligent, some unbelievers are the opposite, and the general findings may not apply to specific individuals.
 

Tamanon

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Makes sense, as someone who is more intelligent is probably more willing to expose themselves to alternate views and look for something more substantial in nature to describe the world.
 

chaosblade

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Well, I'm dumb as a rock and not religious, so I guess I'm just an odd data point.

And none of this surprises me:

The Pew survey found that respondents who believed that the Bible was the literal word of God tended to have less religious knowledge than those who endorsed a less literal interpretation, particularly those who said it was a collection of fables. Other studies have found that conservative Christians and fundamentalists tend to have poorer knowledge of science (Sherkat, 2011) and to have a poorer vocabulary (Sherkat, 2010) compared to other religious groups and the religiously unaffiliated.
 

Damaniel

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I expect a reasoned, well-argued discussion that sticks to the merits and doesn't devolve into childish fighting between the religious and non-religious here.

But then again, this is the Internet... :)

Based on my available circle of family and friends, I tend to find that the people who would be classified as 'more intelligent' tend to be agnostic/atheist, but this is hardly a hard and fast rule. I know plenty of really bright engineers who are religious to various degrees, including a couple who adhere to a pretty conservative, evangelical Christian group (don't know which, but they remind me of Mormons without the golden tablets). I go to school with devout Christians, Muslims and Sikhs, and their academic ability doesn't seem to be hampered by their belief.

On the other hand, I place myself solidly into the strong agnostic category. Atheist would probably be a more accurate term, but I tend to associate atheism with the more militant anti-theistic people who go around arguing that belief in religion is a disease. I can 'not believe' without being a jerk. :)
 
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jgmo870

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The countries with better educational systems definitely seem less religious.

And they are talking about religious behavior, not religious beliefs which only makes it more believable to me.
 
Wait . . . people that don't believe in fanciful things that are not supported by hard evidence for are often more intelligent?

No way?!?! How is that possible?
 

DedValve

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Makes sense, as someone who is more intelligent is probably more willing to expose themselves to alternate views and look for something more substantial in nature to describe the world.

I'd equate the two as well. I had a dentist in his 60's and when he started talking about the bible I proceeded to roll my eyes and hope the pain of my wisdom teeth being removed would drown out whatever he was going to say.

We then proceeded to have a philosophical discussion as he apparently believes and studies all religion and enjoys learning about the history of various religions just as much as the teachings themselves. He was very intelligent and was always open to learn more about other peoples viewpoints, even an athiest and he even admitted that he doesn't like how someone can be so faithless in this world but always enjoys talking with athiests because he wants to understand them better rather than plug up his ears with information he heard from gossip and just scream "NANANANANA YOUR GOING TO HELL NANANANANANA".

That was...quite a pleasant experience
well apart from him ripping out my teeth
 

nullset2

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Empirically speaking, the results of this study are so damn obvious.

Since I'm on the record here, I'll leave it at that.
 
When I was a kid, sitting in church probably nullified some of my brain cells.
I would just sit and zone out for about 2 hours.
 

Mariolee

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I think this speaks more of how Christians should be more open to new ideas and how they are compatible with the science we learn of today, rather than pushing away just because it scares them.

Speaking as a Christian.
 

Wilsongt

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When I was a kid, sitting in church probably nullified some of my brain cells.
I would just sit and zone out for about 2 hours.

I played tic-tac-toe by myself I was so bored. I don't think some religious parents realize how torturous that is for children to sit there for two hours listening to someone drone on on Sunday morning.
 

DedValve

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2 hours??! Child abuse

try 5 hours for me and on christmas and new years too :(

Fucking hated waking up on a beautiful chistmas morning, knowing today is the day I get the new hey you pikachu game and having to sit through 5 hours of church effectively taking away my christmas mornings and at the end we get some shitty secret santa gifts from other kids parents that nobody gives a shit about because the limit is like $10.

I resented god for taking away my christmas' not worshipped him. In the end though I finally got my jurassic park toys and hey you pikachu, but I wanted to play them in my pajamas :(

EDIT: Oh and this was before I learned spanish, seriously what is up with the latino community not teaching their kids and taking them to a spanish only church? (I know a lot of parents teach their children spanish but there are a lot that don't and still take their kids to spanish church and never bother teaching them).

Fucked up. How could I worship something when I couldn't even understand the language?
 
People that have mystic or religious experiences (who would then be more likely to be religious) probably employ more holistic or non-linear thinking, would be my guess. Mystic experiences surely have a neurological basis, but they don't really avail themselves to analysis, and our culture has a bias towards linear thinking so anything closer to a balanced outlook probably means more 'intelligence' by way of a broader set of cognitive skills.

Edit: I read this as having the opposite meaning. Me= inversely related to intelligence.
 

Air

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I remember reading something similar on reddit about how meta-data analysis like this May not be the most reliable source of change/growth or whatever, but I can't recall the specifics. That said I don't think it's because atheists are actually smarter than Christians or other religious people. I think that the mainstream religious person isn't really interested in acquiring knowledge from areas far away from their personal beliefs, whether due to lack of interest or fear. The ability for atheists to do this probably has something to due with placating a human need that atheists lack, but are fulfilled by some religious act or knowledge. This will also explain why atheists tend to know a bit more about a religion (generally speaking this religions is Christianity) than the believers.

I don't think this means atheists are some superior (or euphoric) breed of humans.
 

Air

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I also think as time goes on, and beliefs evolve, there will be greater difficulty in ascertaining this kind of data (I'm sure it's still pretty hard to atm, plus you have to deal with a number of variables).

This reminds me of those tests that judged if you were a believer or not based on if you went to church, where a better question would be "do you believe in a deity".

Yea no

I'm atheist and Im a dumb mofo

Dude don't sell yourself short, I mean your avatar tells me you have atleast a 110 iq.
 
I got 14 out of 15 on the quiz and of all the questions to get wrong it was the jewish holy day lol

I think I clicked really fast and missed it or something.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
That is, more intelligent people are generally less likely to be religious. The reasons for this are not fully understood

I dunno. I think I understand it pretty well.
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
I think it's natural that less intelligent or educated people would gravitate towards religion because it offers them a purpose/meaning in life that the secular world is less likely to give them.

How do you arrive at that conclusion?
 

The Lamp

Member
Haha I'm an outlier. I'm a devout Christian, really open to experience and new ideas and I'm well educated (and I assume intelligent).

It'll be interesting if they ever find out what a third underlying factor might be! These statistics are certainly apparent when talking about certain extreme groups of people but I wonder what the grey areas look like and why.
 
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