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Radeon RX Vega thread

Cooler looks good but I don't know if it's good enough to justify the +$50 price difference over the regular card.

It looks like something that local shop would do when you would told them to make enclosure as cheap as possible :D It is just thick sheet of aluminium bended in box form.
 
So putting all the leaks together:

RX Vega 56 - ????/???? - $399
RX Vega 64 - 1247/1546 - $499
RX Vega 64 LE - 1247/1546 - $549
RX Vega 64 WC - 1406/1677 - $599
RX Vega 64 WC LE - 1406/1677 - $699

Seems reasonable based on the performance results of Vega FE, with the possible exception of WC LE which is highly unlikely to be on the same level as 1080Ti with the same price.
 
So putting all the leaks together:

RX Vega 56 - ????/???? - $399
RX Vega 64 - 1247/1546 - $499
RX Vega 64 LE - 1247/1546 - $549
RX Vega 64 WC - 1406/1677 - $599
RX Vega 64 WC LE - 1406/1677 - $699

Seems reasonable based on the performance results of Vega FE, with the possible exception of WC LE which is highly unlikely to be on the same level as 1080Ti with the same price.
DOA.
 
So putting all the leaks together:

RX Vega 56 - ????/???? - $399
RX Vega 64 - 1247/1546 - $499
RX Vega 64 LE - 1247/1546 - $549
RX Vega 64 WC - 1406/1677 - $599
RX Vega 64 WC LE - 1406/1677 - $699

Seems reasonable based on the performance results of Vega FE, with the possible exception of WC LE which is highly unlikely to be on the same level as 1080Ti with the same price.

Man they really couldn't squeeze 3 MHz in to make the base clock an even 1250?
 
So putting all the leaks together:

RX Vega 56 - ????/???? - $399
RX Vega 64 - 1247/1546 - $499
RX Vega 64 LE - 1247/1546 - $549
RX Vega 64 WC - 1406/1677 - $599
RX Vega 64 WC LE - 1406/1677 - $699

Seems reasonable based on the performance results of Vega FE, with the possible exception of WC LE which is highly unlikely to be on the same level as 1080Ti with the same price.

Man... I was really hoping these would scare Nvidia into price cutting the 1070 and 1080. Looks like they have nothing to worry about now.

That said, do AMD even care? Miners buy up every single GPU available right now, artificially inflating prices, so presumably GPU manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank. These things might well sell out regardless.
 
So putting all the leaks together:

RX Vega 56 - ????/???? - $399
RX Vega 64 - 1247/1546 - $499
RX Vega 64 LE - 1247/1546 - $549
RX Vega 64 WC - 1406/1677 - $599
RX Vega 64 WC LE - 1406/1677 - $699

Seems reasonable based on the performance results of Vega FE, with the possible exception of WC LE which is highly unlikely to be on the same level as 1080Ti with the same price.


Just 1546MHz boost clock on the aircooled 64? Let's hope for better results from sapphire, asus and co.
 
It looks like something that local shop would do when you would told them to make enclosure as cheap as possible :D It is just thick sheet of aluminium bended in box form.

Sooner buy that than the GAMERZ bullshit AIBs tend to do. It is laughable that nobody can made a nice minimalist GPU enclosure.
 
So putting all the leaks together:

RX Vega 56 - ????/???? - $399
RX Vega 64 - 1247/1546 - $499
RX Vega 64 LE - 1247/1546 - $549
RX Vega 64 WC - 1406/1677 - $599
RX Vega 64 WC LE - 1406/1677 - $699

Seems reasonable based on the performance results of Vega FE, with the possible exception of WC LE which is highly unlikely to be on the same level as 1080Ti with the same price.

Those clocks are lower than the FE aren't they? The FE which already only barely keeps up with the 1080?

This thing isn't just DOA, it actually traveled back in time and retroactively died before it was announced nearly 2 years ago now.
 
Those clocks are lower than the FE aren't they? The FE which already only barely keeps up with the 1080?

This thing isn't just DOA, it actually traveled back in time and retroactively died before it was announced nearly 2 years ago now.

AC card clocks are lower but the WC card clock are a step higher - so that they could say that they weren't lying that RX Vega will be "faster" than Vega FE probably.
 
Little over 5 hours to go, and we'll get essentially what has already leaked but no performance/benchmarks.

I gotta say, I love AMD products for the most part, and use them first when I can. The runup to Vega has been truly saddening. 500 bucks is a lot of money to me, and I only buy GPU's every 5-7 years. Getting value, perf/dollar and having clear and honest communication from the company behind the hardware is a must.

I don't see that this time. Maybe in the past it was just a feeling rather than objective fact, but yeah.

Here's the hoping the sandbagging rumors (nonsense) are true.
 
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Clocks: 1247/1546 MHz
 
Oh, look, it's actually pretty close! Even performing better than Skylake x at the same clocks in some test!
Heh! not only that, but this is what I said with no reference to the chart he posted, uniformed clockspeeds or anything to do with that conversation.....

thelastword said:
I look at Ryzen and it's pretty close to Intel CPU's with much lower clocks. Could AMD GPU's do the same or even surpass NV GPU's with lower clocks? Seems plausible...

Simply implying that a stock 3.7GHz Ryzen vs a 4.5 GHZ intel is pretty close in performance in many games and apps as far as I'm seeing. An overclocked 4.0GHz Ryzen and a whopping 5.0GHz intel system is still close in many games and apps. Yet at this point, more games and apps are/were built with higher clocks in mind, the fact that ryzen performs so great and so close is extremely impressive under those circumstances......

It is from there I asked,,,,Do we think the lower clock speeds of Vega is good enough to combat/match the high end NV GPU's with lower clockspeeds? I'm a bit optimistic there and I expressed that based on the newer architecture of Vega.....

Sadly enough, Durante is just following me around with an axe to grind....For someone who has me on ignore, he keeps on tackling threads I create and keeps on quoting my posts. I'm thinking he should not be seeing these threads or my posts, but I've never put anyone on ignore.......I have my own take on people who use ignore lists, but eh! At least if you're using it let it do it's job. I am not so sensitive personally, so I don't begrudge anyone for their opinion, neither do I attack persons on these forums. I just share my opinion and no hard feelings after....

In any case, I wish this event would be streamed, nothing official has come through yet now has it?
 
Those clocks are lower than the FE aren't they? The FE which already only barely keeps up with the 1080?

This thing isn't just DOA, it actually traveled back in time and retroactively died before it was announced nearly 2 years ago now.

Not like the FE ever maintained even close to 1600mhz boost in anything at all though, so if RX Vega actually maintains 1546 and doesn't throttle under load it's gonna outperform the FE easily.
 
I honestly wonder if this is the aftermath of having to dedicate R&D resources to the console contracts. An NV engineer once stated the reason the FX series sucked was due to NV allocating all their best engineers to the Xbox GPU project and they couldn't really salvage it after it was obvious it wasn't even close to competitive.

Vega 64 should have been at least 50% faster than the Fury X, and even that would have been a slight disappointment considering the time frame here.

Well, maybe they get a clean start with Navi... unless it's just GCN 6.0.
 
Well, maybe they get a clean start with Navi... unless it's just GCN 6.0.

For some reason, Navi has always represented a clean start in my head. I've been hoping that it will do for their GPUs what Ryzen did for their CPUs. But these are all just my own fantasies and not based in any fact.
 
If I wasn't so lazy I'd sell both my freesync monitors and would just get a nice ips 144hz and a new 1080ti. This is just getting silly and I'm really concerned about how these will perform with my ultrawide.
 
If I wasn't so lazy I'd sell both my freesync monitors and would just get a nice ips 144hz and a new 1080ti. This is just getting silly and I'm really concerned about how these will perform with my ultrawide.
Lol, why are you guys so impatient. The 1080Ti has been on the market for a bit now.
 
The water cooled Vega FE was pretty much GTX 1080 performance and it looks like the RX Vega performs no differently.

RIP 20% Magic Drivers enabling all the hardware features that were clearly not enabled on the FE that will totally make the wait and the TDP worth it.
 
Are 1070s still rare? I can see the 56 selling out to gamers because of the lack of market choices and well, freesync.

I remember when they were going on sale for $300-350 not too long ago.
 
Are 1070s still rare? I can see the 56 selling out to gamers because of the lack of market choices and well, freesync.

I remember when they were going on sale for $300-350 not too long ago.

If that reference blower is $399, custom cards will be ~$420-430ish. No idea how there would be any market for that with 1080's routinely going on sale for $450 and less.
 
An 11 minute Intro to Vega video is up on Youtube. They do not really talk much about gaming it is just one of those marketing things where they talk about how great it is and why you want one. At around 2:30 they show one benchmark of DOOM running at ultra settings 3440 X 1440P with Vulkan and the RX VEGA 64 is at 83FPS minimum and 93 Average compared to the 1080FE (Presumably GTX?) at 76/83FPS and the Fury X at 68/71FPS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxVzDQtHzqo&feature=youtu.be
 
I'm patient but theres no denying this whole thing with Vega has been a train wreck for a while now.

If you've waited this long you have the patience of a saint. The 1080 launched in May 2016. It's now July 2017 and we still know next to nothing substantial about Vega. Most people have already given up and bought 1080 or 1080 Ti and if they wanted it a G-sync monitor by now.
 
I did some very quick and dirty (and possibly useless?) math to get some performance/watt estimates based on what AMD reports for their 500 series and these new Vega cards. Basically, I just did TFLOPs/TDP. I figured this might be a tiny bit useful for comparing within AMD's product line.

RX 560: 0.0325
RX 570: 0.034
RX 580: 0.0335

RX Vega 56: 0.05
RX Vega 64: 0.0427
RX Vega 64 (Liquid): 0.0397

Assuming the above numbers actually mean something (and given my ignorance on this subject and these being AMD PR numbers, I bet they don't), it seems like Vega actually shows some efficiency gains over Polaris but that the clocks on the 64 and 64 Liquid are examples of diminishing returns.

Personally, I'm most curious about the 150W Vega variant that AMD is saying is coming, as that's in the 570/580 TDP range. I wonder if that would launch at $299 (seems likely to me) or just completely replace the 580 at $250 (my dream scenario that won't happen). EDIT: I just realized that the R9 Nano actually released at the same price as the Fury X. So...I guess history says the price might be closer to $499 than $299. I hope history is wrong.
 
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