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Ratchet & Clank Trilogy (Vita) |OT| Hey, how about a wedgie for old times' sake?

pdk27

Member
Man, I almost imported this from England to play on my flight overseas this month. Figured I would give SCEA the benefit of the doubt. Now I find out that it is coming out the day I fly. Too bad it won't be on the US store before I leave my house for the airport.
 
I was just going to prepare my memory card for the Ratchet trilogy when I found out that the European digital version is labeled as 12.8GB. Is that right?!?! Really? Almost 13GB for this? Now I REALLY wish there was a retail version...
 

baekshi

Banned
I was just going to prepare my memory card for the Ratchet trilogy when I found out that the European digital version is labeled as 12.8GB. Is that right?!?! Really? Almost 13GB for this? Now I REALLY wish there was a retail version...

its 3.3gb or somewhere near that
 

baekshi

Banned
Great, because I was starting to think that I would have to import a european version or start using multiple memory cards, which I hear is a hassle.

you can import physical cart from EU and play it on your US account. no need to switch memory cards ( that is only for digital contents on psn store which this game doesn't have).
 

GameE

Member
This is on PSN now, no cross buy. fuck me :(
I already have this on PS3 and even tho I want it for Vita, Im not paying for the same thing again. If it was retail maybe, but not digital.
 

Shizuka

Member
Just found out that the developer who did this port is the same who did Jak & Daxter Vita ports. How did Sony think it was a good idea to hire the same guys? I'm sure it's not that bad, but it's still giving the image that they were hired again because they're cheap.
 
Finally have this, about damn time. I've played like 15 mins of the first one, feels fantastic. I hope the rest of the collection is like this.
 
I wasn't sure if I was even going to like these games since I've played them backwards, first the future trilogy and now the original. However, the first one is very good so far! Very nice port from what I can tell, with the exception of the poor quality cutscenes.
 

Trace

Banned
Just found out that the developer who did this port is the same who did Jak & Daxter Vita ports. How did Sony think it was a good idea to hire the same guys? I'm sure it's not that bad, but it's still giving the image that they were hired again because they're cheap.

As far as I know they also did the Jak port for PS3. And that was a very solid port, so it might have just been that their first Vita porting wasn't the best.
 

RK128

Member
Finally got the Collection two days ago and really love how great these games feel on Vita :D.

Firstly, the rear-touch controls are very smooth and easy to adjust to; after playing through a large chunk of Ratchet 2, Strafing felt like second nature :). The other controls felt fine too; the downgrade from 60FPS to 30FPS doesn't even feel that noticeable to me (and I should know, I beat Ratchet 3 god knows how many times).

Secondly, all the games run and look great on Vita :D. The only times the frame rate dipped on me was the Ship levels in Ratchet 2 and using the bomb launcher gun in Ratchet 2 once. Ratchet 1 looks very colorful and (while I'm sure I'm wrong here) I think Ratchet 3 is native res (at least it looks really clear). The only issue I have with the game is some odd visual bugs in Ratchet 1 and 2. The former has menu objects still present on the screen even when you don't use them (using the Suck Cannon or swimming underwater; once you stop using/swimming, the meter is still on the screen alongside some really poor audio mixing (the worst was in Metropolis; the robot's shooting sound was mixed with the level theme on a lop until I reached a cut-scene). The latter only has some missing textures in a few levels (though it really isn't that bad).

Lastly, I just love these games XD! Ratchet 2 was my first PS2 game (alongside Jak 3) and I put tons of hours into Ratchet 3, so giving these classics another run again on my favorite gaming system out there is just really nice to do :).

Glad I still picked this up even though it wasn't Cross-Buy. Interestingly though, I think this game is doing really well despite that; I saw 101 4.5 out of 5 reviews of the game on the Vita Store, so many must love the Collection :D.
 
Finally got the Collection two days ago and really love how great these games feel on Vita :D.

Firstly, the rear-touch controls are very smooth and easy to adjust to; after playing through a large chunk of Ratchet 2, Strafing felt like second nature :). The other controls felt fine too; the downgrade from 60FPS to 30FPS doesn't even feel that noticeable to me (and I should know, I beat Ratchet 3 god knows how many times).

Secondly, all the games run and look great on Vita :D. The only times the frame rate dipped on me was the Ship levels in Ratchet 2 and using the bomb launcher gun in Ratchet 2 once. Ratchet 1 looks very colorful and (while I'm sure I'm wrong here) I think Ratchet 3 is native res (at least it looks really clear). The only issue I have with the game is some odd visual bugs in Ratchet 1 and 2. The former has menu objects still present on the screen even when you don't use them (using the Suck Cannon or swimming underwater; once you stop using/swimming, the meter is still on the screen alongside some really poor audio mixing (the worst was in Metropolis; the robot's shooting sound was mixed with the level theme on a lop until I reached a cut-scene). The latter only has some missing textures in a few levels (though it really isn't that bad).

Lastly, I just love these games XD! Ratchet 2 was my first PS2 game (alongside Jak 3) and I put tons of hours into Ratchet 3, so giving these classics another run again on my favorite gaming system out there is just really nice to do :).

Glad I still picked this up even though it wasn't Cross-Buy. Interestingly though, I think this game is doing really well despite that; I saw 101 4.5 out of 5 reviews of the game on the Vita Store, so many must love the Collection :D.

Yeah, I'm at the very end of the 1st game and all those problems you listed persisted in my version as well, not really game breaking or anything, but a bit jarring. But first game runs great and I am loving it so far!
 

RK128

Member
Yeah, I'm at the very end of the 1st game and all those problems you listed persisted in my version as well, not really game breaking or anything, but a bit jarring. But first game runs great and I am loving it so far!

The interesting thing about the first game is that it feels much more open then the latter installments in the series. There are tons of sections in the game that have hidden sections all over the place and if you have a sharp eye, you can find it. That plus the fact there is much more platforming gave this a very different feel then the latter games (which were much more on the shooting side of things instead of the platforming).

The thing that bothers me though is that the shooting in this game is just so poor :(. The game does have the strafing the later games have....but you have to get though 2/3rd's of the game to unlock that feature (when it should have been there from the start). Before that the combat is a pain; you have very little health and the recovering period between attacks is so small that you will die.....very frequently X(. And the weapons.....aren't that great either. Sure, there are some fun ones to use (the Flamethrower, Blaster, Secret Agents of Doom and a few others are fun :D) but due to the lack of the strafing feature, combat isn't as fun as it should be.

Lastly, the story. While I didn't like Ratchet's character when I played this on PS3.....I found it refreshing when playing it on Vita :D. All the games of the series, we have Ratchet and Clank more or less be best friends who stick with each other to the end, but when did that all start? That is where the original shines; Ratchet is a bit of a prick to everyone while Clank is just tagging along in hopes Ratchet will help him save the day. This dynamic of the two characters wanting different goals but are stuck together is interesting and shows a different side of them we never saw in the latter games :). Also, I like how Ratchet is grows to be nicer to Clank towards the end of the game as well :).

Overall, I like the original game for a few reasons and while it is far from the best game in the series, it is a lot better then I expected it to be :D.
 
The interesting thing about the first game is that it feels much more open then the latter installments in the series. There are tons of sections in the game that have hidden sections all over the place and if you have a sharp eye, you can find it. That plus the fact there is much more platforming gave this a very different feel then the latter games (which were much more on the shooting side of things instead of the platforming).

The thing that bothers me though is that the shooting in this game is just so poor :(. The game does have the strafing the later games have....but you have to get though 2/3rd's of the game to unlock that feature (when it should have been there from the start). Before that the combat is a pain; you have very little health and the recovering period between attacks is so small that you will die.....very frequently X(. And the weapons.....aren't that great either. Sure, there are some fun ones to use (the Flamethrower, Blaster, Secret Agents of Doom and a few others are fun :D) but due to the lack of the strafing feature, combat isn't as fun as it should be.

Lastly, the story. While I didn't like Ratchet's character when I played this on PS3.....I found it refreshing when playing it on Vita :D. All the games of the series, we have Ratchet and Clank more or less be best friends who stick with each other to the end, but when did that all start? That is where the original shines; Ratchet is a bit of a prick to everyone while Clank is just tagging along in hopes Ratchet will help him save the day. This dynamic of the two characters wanting different goals but are stuck together is interesting and shows a different side of them we never saw in the latter games :). Also, I like how Ratchet is grows to be nicer to Clank towards the end of the game as well :).

Overall, I like the original game for a few reasons and while it is far from the best game in the series, it is a lot better then I expected it to be :D.

If I had anything to say about this game, it would honestly be exactly what you said, haha. The shooting is really difficult in this game because the lock on is so hot and cold, but I got used to it. I love the beginning dynamic of Ratchet and Clank too, he's such a dick to Clank, haha, I can't say I remembered it. I got to the end of the first one, almost beat Drek, ran out of bolts, and I can't say I'm gonna try again. Such a ridiculously hard battle with ammo being so scarce and expensive.
 
Having never played this series before, I'd like to buy the Vita trilogy.

I do have a personal caveat: I'd prefer the game physically (instead of digitally), to go alongside the other Vita ____Trilogy Collections.

I have heard the 2nd game had some borked glitches in the EU version, so I wonder if the game has those digitally in the US version, too?

Sony doesn't really patch these collections (Jak & Daxter Trilogy on Vita)...

Should I bite the bullet and get the EU physical version?
 

RK128

Member
Having never played this series before, I'd like to buy the Vita trilogy.

I do have a personal caveat: I'd prefer the game physically (instead of digitally), to go alongside the other Vita ____Trilogy Collections.

I have heard the 2nd game had some borked glitches in the EU version, so I wonder if the game has those digitally in the US version, too?

Sony doesn't really patch these collections (Jak & Daxter Trilogy on Vita)...

Should I bite the bullet and get the EU physical version?

Honestly, even though the collection on Vita is really good (not better then Sly Collection but hell of a lot better then Jak Collection), I don't recommend the Vita version as a entry point for the series :(. The frame rate is heaved to run well on Vita (60 FPS on PS2/PS3 too 30FPS with some drops every now and then on Vita) and the best way to play these games has to be the PS3 collection or the PS2 versions.

Though, the issues on Vita didn't really bother me much at all (outside of two bad crashes on the second-to-last world in Ratchet 3 and the sewer section in Ratchet 3), I recommend playing the PS3 version of the collection first :). Then, if you want to play these on the go and don't mind the frame rate drops, then give the Vita version a go :D.

Either way, both versions of these classic games run well, so hope you enjoy them on what ever you play them on :).
 

Drago

Member
Having never played this series before, I'd like to buy the Vita trilogy.

I do have a personal caveat: I'd prefer the game physically (instead of digitally), to go alongside the other Vita ____Trilogy Collections.

I have heard the 2nd game had some borked glitches in the EU version, so I wonder if the game has those digitally in the US version, too?

Sony doesn't really patch these collections (Jak & Daxter Trilogy on Vita)...

Should I bite the bullet and get the EU physical version?
[This only applies to R&C2] Whenever you travel somewhere inside of a main level, the game will freeze up and close. When you start back up though, you will load at the place you were traveling to. When you finish up what you had to do there, the game will freeze up again and reloading puts you back on the main planet - and in most cases will remember you completed the mission. Not always though, but the ones that didn't save for me didn't hinder my progress as far as I knew other than one optional item.

It's annoying but not game breaking, I managed to play and beat the game just fine despite the bug. I don't think digital versions (in EU or NA) are affected for whatever reason.
 

VLiberty

Member
Having never played this series before, I'd like to buy the Vita trilogy.

I do have a personal caveat: I'd prefer the game physically (instead of digitally), to go alongside the other Vita ____Trilogy Collections.

I have heard the 2nd game had some borked glitches in the EU version, so I wonder if the game has those digitally in the US version, too?

Sony doesn't really patch these collections (Jak & Daxter Trilogy on Vita)...

Should I bite the bullet and get the EU physical version?

Unfortunately for you, the glitch only occurs in the cart version of the game; the digital version of R&C 2 is fine. I think that's also the reason why NA never got a cart version.

And as RK128 said, I'd not suggest the Vita version as an entry point.
 

repeater

Member
I'm a newcomer to the series and I'm playing R&C1 on the Vita. I've just reached the hoverboard race in Blackwater City. Do I definitely need to beat this crap to proceed with the game? If so, I might give up on the game and play something else instead, because it seems damn near impossible to me due to the horrible controls. :/
 

thenexus6

Member
Question for EU/UK people, not sure if already answered in thread.

How does the Cross buy work? I looked at some unboxing videos and there was no code in the case to redeem the PS3/vita version. Do you simply just play the game for it to appear on your download list for the other system?

If so would buying the game used still make you eligible for the cross buy?
 
Question for EU/UK people, not sure if already answered in thread.

How does the Cross buy work? I looked at some unboxing videos and there was no code in the case to redeem the PS3/vita version. Do you simply just play the game for it to appear on your download list for the other system?

If so would buying the game used still make you eligible for the cross buy?

Cross buy for the R&C Trilogy and the Sly Trilogy is only on the digital versions. I don't recall getting the PS3 digital version of the Jak & Daxter Trilogy with the Vita digital version though.

So yeah, I'm 99% sure it's only the digital version that gets cross buy, but the digital version definitely does.
 

thenexus6

Member
Cross buy for the R&C Trilogy and the Sly Trilogy is only on the digital versions. I don't recall getting the PS3 digital version of the Jak & Daxter Trilogy with the Vita digital version though.

So yeah, I'm 99% sure it's only the digital version that gets cross buy, but the digital version definitely does.

Okay thanks, i'll wait for a PSN sale then
 

thenexus6

Member
Just bought them too, it's been so long since I last played them on PS2. How's the performance of the Vita versions? If it's a bad port I'd rather play the ps3 version.

No idea, but at least in the UK they are cross buy with PS3 so if i'm not happy i'll just play on that instead. From what I hear they are ok. Cut scenes are pretty low res and the touch pad takes some getting used too.
 
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