CadetMahoney
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Yea, game came out some time ago for statements like these to be made so we can only assume. . .
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Ready at Dawn: "Well on our way" to meeting sales expectations for The Order: 1886
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Yea, game came out some time ago for statements like these to be made so we can only assume. . .
Game is amazing rental-material, platted it in a single day. Can't imagine that many people bought it and those who did probably sold it back right away. That surely affects sales?
Also are game returns possible? Correct me if I'm wrong but once the wrapper has been opened you can't return it, right? Otherwise that might have massively affected sales.
Also are game returns possible? Correct me if I'm wrong but once the wrapper has been opened you can't return it, right? Otherwise that might have massively affected sales.
Why would they want to punish us if we helped them meet expectations?
such an awful awful aaaaaaaawful game
yurinka
Member
Who said we aren't? Make sure we will. Despite the haters, the game did many things very well, the story made very clear that it was open for for sequels and if it does sell more or less as expected... make sure there will be a sequel.
They can alternate other multiplatform projects with The Order sequels, or even other teams can make it.
Where are the numbers? Do you know how many copies did it sell worldwide both in physical, digital and bundled?
As I remember it was in good chart position in European countries, Sony's main market.
harrisk954
Member
Who knows if we are or not... the game just came out a few months ago.
privitsan02
Member
Heavenly Sword eventually sold well too. Not to mention, it got great reviews. Just food for thought.
Best wishes.
Obliterator
Member
I doubt we ever see a sequel for this game. It sold poorly and the brand is tarnished by poor critic reviews and poor reception by consumers. Average gamers obviously did not like it, the game had no legs at all.
Opus Angelorum
Member
"We are well on our way to meeting sales expectations...isn't that right Sony...? Sony??"
Likewise. The game looks right up my alley, but that's as much as I'm willing to pay for it, especially since a sequel is looking less and less likely.
Obliterator
Member
You are mis remembering then. It debuted ok in some markets and then disappeared. This is nice PR but there is no evidence the game performed well at retail at all
TMaakkonen
Member
I got some kind of theory.
Perhaps preproduction costs were not that high. They spend quite some time making it, but perhaps it wasnt too costly at beginning making the engine? This would mean Order 1886 wouldnt need crazy high sales to meet expectations.
Perhaps preproduction costs were not that high. They spend quite some time making it, but perhaps it wasnt too costly at beginning making the engine? This would mean Order 1886 wouldnt need crazy high sales to meet expectations.
Does not mean anything,DriveClub did not chart in the US but it sold over 200k in Germany.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164556858&postcount=83
CassidyIzABeast
Member
What this means is that they're gonna sell the game for like $5 or $10 on black friday to get the sales up Tomb Raider style
Avenger54321
Member
I probably sat here for at least a few minutes watching this gif, over and over again. I love it...
On a serious note, does anyone know how many copies they sold of The Order?
Obliterator
Member
I remember Cream gave us sell through according to NPD at some point after launch month and it was pretty darn low
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
They game had a LOT wrong with it, but I actually didn't mind it when you...you know, got to play it. I think the foundation is there for a good sequel. It depends whether Sony thinks the same and green lights it.
ShinMaruku
Member
The order is dead. This is all just spin. Could be a great franchise but sometimes a bad idea must explode for quality to rise. They deserve failure for saying filmic.
They deserve failure for making a middling game with a terrible story.
TMaakkonen
Member
Japan sales were 25k
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=999149
Considering things, thats not nearly as bad as I remembered.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164472927&postcount=574
...Isnt that higher than Wonderful 101?
Heh...
Sounds PR for "wasn't a hit but won't end up a total disaster" to me. I could see it - particularly at lower price points - eventually chalking up a decent number in total units and maybe a small profit, but I struggle to believe the game was anywhere near what they must have been hoping in terms of rate of sale and full price sales. It just charted too weakly like everywhere.
I mean it's only a partial view of market but you look at UK Amazon for 2015 total sales and The Witcher 3 (PS4) is at number 1 (which BTW is surely an amazing result but that's another thing), Bloodborne is at number 8, Dying Light (PS4) is at number 9 and The Order is at number 21. I can't believe trends would be much different elsewhere nor much better (and probably worse in some places).
It's clearly a fair bit below other titles on PS4 for the year, despite longer on the market that some of them, and the price dropped pretty quickly too for the game.
I mean it's only a partial view of market but you look at UK Amazon for 2015 total sales and The Witcher 3 (PS4) is at number 1 (which BTW is surely an amazing result but that's another thing), Bloodborne is at number 8, Dying Light (PS4) is at number 9 and The Order is at number 21. I can't believe trends would be much different elsewhere nor much better (and probably worse in some places).
It's clearly a fair bit below other titles on PS4 for the year, despite longer on the market that some of them, and the price dropped pretty quickly too for the game.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
That actual game part of it wasn't bad though. Werewolf encounters were shit, but the gameplay itself was solid. They just flat out didn't let you interact with the damn thing enough. That was its biggest flaw.
...I don't know what you're trying to prove comparing the Order 1886 to one of the biggest bombs of this gen, but if it makes you feel better, more power to you
Neogaf photographer is killing me
NullPointer
Member
Yep. The Order: 1886 is a visual powerhouse but its also the textbook example of a game without legs.
Just because they're aiming to self publish, doesn't mean they don't have a sequel to the order set. Its like how insomniac went multiplat but are still working on a new ratchet. i'd imagine a new order is on the cards tbh. But its far too early to be announcing that.
Dragon1893
Member
Indeed. Sony would've said something by now if sales were anything to brag about. At this point it got all the full price sales it will ever get and they'll reach whatever milestone they're aiming for thanks to discounts and price drops.
There was also the problem of there being about 3 hours of actual gameplay.
TMaakkonen
Member
At the very least it was just some observation I remembered.
Actually it was just the attitute of lolnosalesnumbersitstillsucks, when in relation to Japan sales it didnt do "lol"-levels worthy. Wouldnt lol-worthy be below 10k or 5k? Or is this just good old Japan is already dead mentality.
I really shouldnt try to prove anything however, since this game was not designed well. It just looks like The Order 1886 didnt too badly sales WISE, yet people seem to diss it sales. Or was this game just SO bad it didnt deserve any sales?
OMG thank you for the laughs. The GAF photographer is freaking brilliant.
My favorite game of the year behind Bloodborne personally.
Always-honest
Banned
Then why aren't we getting DLC or a simple thing like chapter selection with the numer of collectibles you've found and the number you still have to find in that chapter. And skippable cutscenes. Who wants to buy games from devs who show no love to the people who actually liked the game?
hemo memo
Gold Member
+ full price and extremely linear design and no replay value.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
When does Sony go cheap on first or 2nd party games or non-ports?
Gucci Messiah
Banned
You're taking the speculation of arm chair analysts as fact
IISANDERII
Member
Good to hear. I was feeling bad about not buying it.
Robot Pants
Member
Hope it gets a sequel. Has potential to be amazing and I enjoyed it.
I think it'll limp there eventually, either as a pack in download code, or some other promotion. They'll want it to sell X units regardless. I have no doubt they'll have to make some concessions to reach that though.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I don't believe this. Sony has had NOTHING good to say about The Order 1886. In fact they have not said anything that I can remember since launch.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Me too. I acknowledge the flaws but liked it regardless. There are a number of easily-fixed problems which would result in a vastly improved sequel, so I'd really like RAD to get another chance.