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Ready at Dawn: "Well on our way" to meeting sales expectations for The Order: 1886
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BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
I see the snark brigade is still out to shit on the game and the devs
This forum can be nasty sometimes.
OT:
I hope they cherish a second chance if their granted one, and rethink their direction because their tech/art departments are top shelf.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I don't see why Sony would have another studio work on this. It's very clearly RAD's baby. Considering it didn't blow up the charts why wouldn't they just have another studio create something new? It doesn't seem like that valuable of a franchise, if it were Sony could have worked something out with rad to keep it going. Sadly this will likely find its place alongside other long lost IPs like heavenly sword, laid, star/Warhawk, ect...
John Bender
Banned
Just like Heavenly Sword met "sales expectations". Doesn't mean it was a Blockbuster or should get a sequel.
I love The Order: 1886, but maybe it's better for both to start a new project.
BLUElightCory
Member
This is what I was thinking. The initial sales boom is long since past.
This would probably be a great free game for PS Plus members and/or pack-in, it's such a great looking game that it's well suited as a promotion tool for Playstation.
Journalism For Beginners
The correct followup question is the following:
"How long after release were you targeting that level of performance for?"
bananafactory
Banned
People are insulting RAD now? Jesus Christ this forum can be petty
So you didn't like their vision for the game? Ok, fine. No need to trash a very talented development team
So you didn't like their vision for the game? Ok, fine. No need to trash a very talented development team
John Bender
Banned
"Cinematic games are kiling ma gamey games!!!!" Teh evil!
All this hate is getting funnier and funnier. Doesn't matter if it's a gaming board or twitter/facebook.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
I would like to have those numbers please.
Abinash117
Member
If you are referring to the sales. The numbers is on the second page.
show me where somebody said that. the game was fundamentally piss poor almost across the board. cinematic games can be great, this one was absolute garbage. the last of us and uncharted are both unbelievable cinematic experiences and almost universally loved from both critics and fans. heavy rain also had a very large fan base. Why don't we see as much hate in those threads? this argument is tired and lazy, the game earned the criticism fair and square.
I don't think cinematic games tag need to be dragged through mud to defend The Order. Love cinematic games but imo this one is not a good example of it being done right. One simply needs to look at ND (RAD's influence) to see how awesome cinematic games can be.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Those are number for only NA, the UK and Japan.
cpp_is_king
Member
It's been 4 months. If they're still on their way, then it sounds like they might be suffering from Zeno's Paradox
TheTurboFD
Member
And you know that we aren't how? The game came out 4 months ago.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
It's your opinion and all but your post is filled with hyperbole.
The game was disappointing given the potential.
Your post is a good example of vicious, destructive criticism.
Pankratous
Member
Good, it was an absolutely fantastic game. It deserves every sale.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
It's possible that another of Sonys studios could pick up the IP, having an already established world with already created assets saves alot of time and money.
With that being said, i wouldnt get your hopes up.
With that being said, i wouldnt get your hopes up.
Abinash117
Member
There's very little other stats from other places and the current stats are from major places anyway. Sony isn't going to release digital sales and nobody else will either. I extremely doubt that it matters at all what the numbers are, because the game most likely still bombed regardless( considering they are making other multiplatform games, and not hinting at a sequel it seems unless Sony decides to do it, but I bet it won't be on the original engine since RAD doesn't seem to work for them now.). If I had to guess including other places, digital, and bundles it is probably closer to 500-800k by now.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Who says we aren't? Lol
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Ready at Dawn is the developer, they arent making it. Sony isnt working with Ready at Dawn anymore because of the performance of the first game.
This is a pretty obvious conclusion to jump too. Maybe one of Sonys smaller studios like Cambridge could take a look at it, but i doubt it.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
It most certainly was. The game has absolute bottom of the barrel encounter design. It is so middling that it is almost funny.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Mass_Pincup
Banned
So we didn't actually saw the numbers.
That's what I was getting at we don't know anything it's just a guess.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Where was this stated? I could see it being true, but no one said it.
timetokill
Banned
Typically you want to distance yourself from a critical disaster as much as possible. You don't want that stench on you.
That's what I got from their silence too especially next to the praise they have been giving to bloodborne and mentioning its sales milestone.
Abinash117
Member
We do know something . If the UK and US isn't that high depending on the game, then it is most likely not high anywhere else, also if it did sell well there would be PR about more, and the statement in the interview wouldn't be slightly vague. If they hadn't reached the sales expectations now they most likely won't in the near future or far maybe.
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
Time to bundle it with the system and call it a day. Probably the best way to get value out of it now.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Who says we are not?
John Bender
Banned
Oh come on, you can see or read the "hate" everywhere. Especially for Heavy Rain.
Remember these times, back then, when Heavy Rain launched? The same goes for Beyond: Two Souls.
Uncharted and TLOU received the same hate. Cinematic experiences in games are ruining the industry or TLOU being a somber, interactive movie. TO:1886 was more like Heavy Rain. People wanted it to be a Gear of War clone.
Guess what? The Order: 1886 is a game. It's a videogame. It's a videogame just like Super Mario, Uncharted, Halo, Zelda, etc.! Again: It's a videogame.
If you like this kind of game or not, is a different question.
Agree! But it's one of the reasons why it got so much hate. I saw these comments everywhere (not talking about Gaf. Especially on Twitter, Facebook and so on).
And yes, ND are the kings here
I like the way you think.
JayhawkerStL
Banned
Then you should play Wolfenstein, or the even $20 expansion with more content.
There are actual good games to choose from.
JayhawkerStL
Banned
Well, they saved on content.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Wolfenstein didn't really do much for me, I think my expectations were too high after it's reception on GAF.
If they didn't meet that frontloaded window of sales expectations I doubt they ever will.
Gotta imagine it's not just about hitting a specific number of units moved, but how they were moved. Full price early sales likely mean a lot more than pack in or vastly reduced in price sales. But those last two types of sales is all that is likely to happen from this point.
Gotta imagine it's not just about hitting a specific number of units moved, but how they were moved. Full price early sales likely mean a lot more than pack in or vastly reduced in price sales. But those last two types of sales is all that is likely to happen from this point.
Leafhopper
Banned
I was joking about how it seemed to be underwhelming to a lot of people. I wasn't shitting on the game for everything it was, as it is on a graphical level damn fine looking, or said the devs were terrible people or anything. I am sure RAD can learn from it and make a better game, they did make Daxter after all.
Sorry if I hurt your video game, or something. I wouldn't make blanket assumptions about people all the time.
For real. Never played The Order, I have no desire to, but it's like people seriously forgot the excellent work they did on PSP.
Messofanego
Banned
You really liked The Order 1886 over the new Wolfenstein. Just interesting to note as to me who's played both feel like they're on opposite sides of quality as shooters. In terms of characters, gameplay, weapons, combat encounters, level design, AI, and storytelling. I feel The Order is quite forgettable while people will still keep on getting into Machinegames' work on Wolfenstein.
SuperSonic1305
Member
People really really hate this game don't they? Even a non-negative quote by somebody gets torn to shreds.
Chill Penguin
Member
People love to pile on this game for some reason. Yeah it likely isn't very good, but lots of games aren't. These guys got some straight up toxic hate for this game.
Krappadizzle
Member
It got about as much hate as it deserved.
This game was the prettiest turd I ever bought. I was blown away by the graphics but soo bored playing it that I couldn't even finish it. It still mocks me now in my PS4 digital library. It's great graphics aren't enough to make me want to turn it back on and play it.
I payed full price for a shitty game. If it was $20 I'd have thought, "interesting tech demo, hope to see more from the team." ala MGSV. As it stands I feel like I got ripped off.
Most eventually do. Even Square Enix met their insane Tomb Raider target.
wolfhowwl
Banned
No his malfeasance is far more severe than that.
The Order is art and the price of admission into the gallery is simply $60. I couldn't fathom actively telling others not to experience a work of art themselves and form their own opinions but instead listen to my opinion on it so they can save $60.
I would be nothing more than a criminal robbing someone of culture, education and enlightenment... it's literally colonialism of the mind. I ask you, my fellow GAFers, how is that good?
i'm not shitting on it just commenting on their vague statement.