shinobi602
Member
I swear I've never noticed chromatic abberation in any game I've played. Ever. I didn't even know what it was until GAF. I still never notice it in any game I play, I'm actually dumbfounded how you guys even see that shit lol.
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Ready @ Dawn: "Graphic fidelity of The Order 1886 definitely exceeds the trailer"
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LilWayneSuckz
Member
I'm shocked at how many people are doubting Ready At Dawn, they have an extremely good pedigree. As long as they get the shooting mechanics right, they will no doubt make a well-paced AAA experience
I can't see screen tearing, my eyes are horrible :-/
I can't see screen tearing, my eyes are horrible :-/
thunder_snail
Member
It's one of those things you don't notice until you're told about and then wish that you were never told about.
Thats one of the things i cant see
shinobi602
Member
Even now after I know about it I never see it. Until someone zooms in to abnormal levels to show it to me lol.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Those gameplay screens from Game Informer already looked better than the trailer to me.
It has to be really bad for me to notice screen tearing. I think Enslaved for PS3 was the last time I really remembering seeing screen tearing
But this is a DESIGN/ARTISTIC CHOICE, take a film like Seven which was shot with a Grainy CA on it as this is the look David Fincher wanted and it is not new Erasorhead did it in the 80's.
Don't think they did "Crap" CA because that is all they could manage, it is the look they are going for, like BF4 has the Michael Bay or even earlier Peter Hyams look of LOADS of Lens flare and some CA... This is where games are the display/render and Framing are all part of the view and experience they are trying to give the player, hence why Cut Scenes in this play in realtime like from the Demo where they pull the Copper out of the Firefight as you drag him the camera zooms in but you keep playing.
Ryse does this in the Execution scenes to get the real FEEL of the scene they force the View (but you can rotate the camera).. Games are getting more film like and with this means more Artistic choice.
I for one am well excited for this game as I think it will be a real watershed moment for this gen...and I think Ryse has some Stupendous Visuals in it, the scenery and Bokeh and CA in that game are really well implemented.
Still think we will get a PS4 event again in February to mark 1 year since and this will be the demo of this and other BIG 1st part stuff.
publicpwnerer
Member
Yeah, but what's the gameplay like?
Is this generic overly scripted eye-candy? The more they beat their chests about the 'graphical fidelity', the more I feel like the gameplay will have the same levels of depth as modern shooter campaigns.
Is this generic overly scripted eye-candy? The more they beat their chests about the 'graphical fidelity', the more I feel like the gameplay will have the same levels of depth as modern shooter campaigns.
shinobi602
Member
Can Crusher
Banned
It sticks out in pictures, not in motion.
Can Crusher
Banned
Because it's an artistic choice, meant to capture the effects of a camera.
shinobi602
Member
Good thing I play games in motion, not static
if it isn't noticable, why waste processor effort on creating it? Is it something you'll subconsciously absorb as being more 'filmic' because it is mimicking cameras?
Pound_lb003
Member
Everyone has their achilles heel (unless you think it's a benefit, I certainly do) in viewing graphics.
I am pretty good at identifying everything graphically.
But the one thing, which although I can identify it, doesn't bother me, or I won't notice is tearing. It just doesn't bother me.
Can Crusher
Banned
The whole point is to mimic lenses, making the game look less real life and more film like. Crysis 3 has CA and until I saw some hardcore graphics guy throwing a fit about it, I didn't even knew it was there. Everybody gonna complain about something.
Tearing is the work of the devil, my eyes.
They also created the criminally obscure Hobbit game for GCN, which is easily my favorite Middle Earth game.
Based on the official Nintendo page that was Saffire and not Ready At Dawn.
RAD was founded in 2003, the same year that Hobbit game came out.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I just want a 20 hr experience. If it was purely a shooter I'd settle for less but this seems like a more story driven, adventure shooter. Maybe I'll get stoned to death for saying this but a 10 hr campaign would be highly disappointing.
GameSeeker
Member
In general, I realy like the look of the The Order: 1886. The only part I don't like is the CA (chromatic aberration). As an avid photography buff, I do everything I can to ensure I don't have any CA in any of the pictures I take. CA is caused by an optical DEFECT in the lens and can be removed in post-processing. Most commercial and high end amateur photographers spend thousands of dollars to ensure they buy high quality glass that doesn't have CA defects.
In the Order, they are adding CA as a post processing defect (effect). Some will argue this is an artistic choice, but one I find odd. Adding defects that take GPU cycles that could be better used elsewhere, seems to be a poor tradeoff. Obviously Ready at Dawn will make the game the way they want, but hopefully other studios will avoid wasting GPU cycles on CA.
In the Order, they are adding CA as a post processing defect (effect). Some will argue this is an artistic choice, but one I find odd. Adding defects that take GPU cycles that could be better used elsewhere, seems to be a poor tradeoff. Obviously Ready at Dawn will make the game the way they want, but hopefully other studios will avoid wasting GPU cycles on CA.
shinobi602
Member
I think your expectations are a little unreasonable to be honest...a lot of production values are going into this game, 20 hours is a huge stretch. I'd definitely love that but...just trying to temper your expectation here.
A length closer to The Last of Us might be more reasonable. That took me around 13 or so hours to finish.
I have a feeling if this game lasted 20 hours we'd be begging for it to end by hour 12. Given how little priority they're giving the gameplay so far I doubt it could support a game of that length.
shinobi602 said:
17 on hard for me. Felt like a perfect length even with the rushed final part.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Funny, The Last of Us took me nearly exactly 20 hours to beat, so if The Order 1886 is an "adventure-shooter," I wouldn't say that's unreasonable at all, especially considering how long it's apparently been in development. If it's more of an action heavy "asset tour" roller coaster, though, I guess expectations would be more in the 10-15 hour range.
ashecitism
Member
You're out of luck, I'm affraid. CA is one of the biggest trends in gaming now. People say it's next-gen's bloom :lol
MADGAME
Member
I would be okay with a 10-ish hour campaign if there were a decent replayability factor, a co-op mode, or multiplayer that doesn't feel tacked on.
Yeah, I don't see it being much more than about 10-12 hours at most. TLoU was about perfect with its length. It took me about 18 hours getting through the first time and another 19 on Survivor.
shinobi602
Member
Hm? Which part felt rushed? I thought it ended fairly well.
Might've taken me more though, 15 hours or something, I didn't really count lol.
Actually they are blessed. Think about it! Lol!
The
hospital
I stealthed that whole part which I was pretty sure was the way it was designed to be played. It was one of my favorite parts.
Oppo
Member
You could say the same thing about lens flares though. They are considered "mistakes" technically, in photography or cinematography. It's just a "mistake" that some people think look cool.
Chromatic Aberration for me is like looking at "3D movie" but without the glasses. Instantly recognizable and despisable.
Pound_lb003
Member
Which
hospital
Because I LOVED the second one
at the end
Some of the best pure gameplay in that game, I played it again and again.
dragonbane
Member
Of course, that makes sense. Didn't even think about that. Thanks!
Ol No Bones
Banned
I still don't know what chromatic abberation is and I have no desire to google it.
You played it wrong...
Ol No Bones
Banned
Does this game have a competitive multiplayer?
Clockwork5
Member
Will believe when I see it on my television.
Until then...
Bullshit and bullshots are all I see. Expectations are low.
Until then...
Bullshit and bullshots are all I see. Expectations are low.
Cave Johnson
Member
Not to go off track but I recently finished Tearaway and I noticed there was some sort of CA before the last level as an interesting effect.
shinobi602
Member
I wouldn't know anyway, I stealthed it.
It's a component of color correction and it will make things look like they were captured with an old lens. It just has to be very carefully applied. Some games do it well, other's terribly. It's very, very little processing power for color correction BTW
I dont think there is multiplayer here according to the GI interview.
Frankly, I wouldn't want them to do it until the sequel.
Don't know why, but I like that idea
shinobi602
Member
That wasn't...technically confirmed. They just said something along the lines of 'as of this moment we're focusing on single player'.
Yeah.... At most Co-Op. But a baseline competitive multiplayer mode? Eh......
You know what this game would really benefit from? Horde mode. With those weapons and a huge map, Sounds like hours of fun.
BruiserBear
Banned
I just want an enjoyable game with no filler. If that means it's 8 hours of awesome, than I'm fine with that. I'd never prefer 8 hours of awesome wrapped in 12 hours of backtracking, etc, just to say it was a 20 hour experience.