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[Zombie James]

http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/sniper_elite_2/news/rebellion_still_in_the_dark_on_nintendo_nx.html

Rebellion CEO Jason Kingsley has told VideoGamer that he doesn't know anything more about the Nintendo NX than anybody else, despite rumours suggesting that the console could go on sale as early as this year.

"Nintendo are brilliant," Kingsley said. "They're a fabulous company and I love them. I always feel they're quite eccentric. They come up with some incredible hardware. Even the Virtua Boy back in the day was really intriguing, and then the clamshell design of their handhelds. To be honest, I just don't know [whether Rebellion will support NX]. The only way I can answer the question is, when we know what the machine is we'll see and we'll have a look. I've always loved Nintendo, I love their games and love their hardware.

"I know no more about [NX] than you do, so we'd be purely speculating," he continued. "If it's something that will run our games and if it isn't some weird wobble balance board or something that's totally irrelevant to what we're doing then, if we can and if there's a market there, if there's a commercial opportunity, then we definitely want to capitalise on that."

This is ridiculous. Either Nintendo is keeping developers in the dark on purpose - which would be idiotic and the complete opposite of what they should be doing - or NX isn't launching this year.

 

[OnionPowder]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

 

[Hero of Legend]

Somehow I don't think a dev who's made only one game on Nintendo hardware this gen (SE2 on Wii U without online) is high on Nintendo's priority list.

 

[GhostTrick]

It's not getting 3rd party support, in the way PS4/ONE are getting. That's all.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

Sniper Elite V2 on Wii U

 

[Kouriozan]

I noticed that everyone love Nintendo in interviews like that.

if there's a market there

It's not happening then.

 

[TheMoon]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

Sniper Elite (ported by someone else) and Sniper Elite V2 (done by Rebellion themselves, iirc) both came out on Wii and Wii U respectively.

 

[speedomodel]

Sigh....why does this not surprise me...

 

[Ushojax]

Companies like Rebellion are not the kind of third parties that Nintendo is aiming at with NX, they want indies, mobile developers and Japanese studios rather than large Western companies. There is no market for Rebellion's type of games on Nintendo hardware, there won't be for years if ever.

 

[BY2K]

Sniper Elite (ported by someone else) and Sniper Elite V2 (done by Rebellion themselves, iirc) both came out on Wii and Wii U respectively.

Didn't they cut some features from Sniper Elite V2 in the Wii U version?

 

[shinobi602]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

So we should confine it only to developers who have released games on a Nintendo system before? Seems counter productive. Shouldn't we be reaching out and collaborating with as many developers as possible?

 

[SolidSnakex]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

They have, but let's just say they haven't. Wouldn't that be all the more reason to reach out to them to make sure they are on the new platform?

 

[Sheriff_Battlesnake]

This is ridiculous. Either Nintendo is keeping developers in the dark on purpose - which would be idiotic and the complete opposite of what they should be doing - or NX isn't launching this year.

Or they aren't sending dev kits to every developer under the sun.

 

[prwxv3]

Somehow I don't think a dev who's made only one game on Nintendo hardware this gen (SE2 on Wii U without online) is high on Nintendo's priority list.

That is a huge problem. They need every dev they can get. More devs = more games it's not fucking rocket science. Sony is trying to get anyone and everyone to develope for the PS4.

 

[wonderful103]

So we should confine it only to developers who have released games on a Nintendo system before? Seems counter productive. Shouldn't we be reaching out and collaborating with as many developers as possible?

Has Rebellion applied for an nx kit and signed the documents required?

 

[10k]

This isn't the first dev to say this. God dammit Nintendo.

 

[sense]

Somehow I don't think a dev who's made only one game on Nintendo hardware this gen (SE2 on Wii U without online) is high on Nintendo's priority list.

this kind of attitude is puzzling to see and one of the reasons for their software droughts. announce the god damn thing early and get developers on board.

 

[cartographer]

This will be a fun thread full of well-reasoned and measured responses.

 

[DrWong]

Companies like Rebellion are not the kind of third parties that Nintendo is aiming at with NX, they want indies, mobile developers and Japanese studios rather than large Western companies. There is no market for Rebellion's type of games on Nintendo hardware, there won't be for years if ever.

Rebellion is a almost a "one game at a time" company/studio you know :]

 

[Zombegoast]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

they released a crappy port of Sniper Elite v2 that can't let you exit out the game.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Rebellion doesnt need to be on NX in the launch months and the NX is doesnt need a Rebellion game early to be a success - thats all it comes to at the end. Either Nintendo pushes to have a dev/game on their system early...or the dev pushes Nintendo to get the details/dev kits early from Nintendo.

If there is no interest from both side you wont just magically get information about a unannounced system.

 

[DownGrader]

I noticed that everyone love Nintendo in interviews like that.

Well, nobody wants to burn bridges with potential partner, in case it releases a DS-like phenomenon.

they released a crappy port of Sniper Elite v2 that can't let you exit out the game.

Can you elaborate? Sounds fucked up/funny.

 

[get2sammyb]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

Isn't this everything that's wrong with Nintendo, though? If I worked for Nintendo, I'd want to be reaching out to these companies and trying to find out why they haven't supported Nintendo in the past.

Once you start having that conversation, you can find ways to resolve the issues. Surely that's what a good platform holder should do?

 

[Mpl90]

Going by Trev's other articles, the ones with a third party developer as a source, it seems Rebellion surely isn't one of the "key partners" that have been working on the platform for a while, like Namco, Square, EA (?), but one of those who could aim for the general distribution of dev kits.

 

[Theorry]

Somehow I don't think a dev who's made only one game on Nintendo hardware this gen (SE2 on Wii U without online) is high on Nintendo's priority list.

Well that would be very stupid. Again.

 

[OnionPowder]

They have, but let's just say they haven't. Wouldn't that be all the more reason to reach out to them to make sure they are on the new platform?

They probably wouldn't be one of the first to reach out to, no.

 

[moggio]

The only thing Rebellion does of any worth is publish 2000 AD.

 

[paragonpro]

Nintendos silence on this thing is getting ridiculous.

 

[Adam Blue]

Companies like Rebellion are not the kind of third parties that Nintendo is aiming at with NX, they want indies, mobile developers and Japanese studios rather than large Western companies. There is no market for Rebellion's type of games on Nintendo hardware, there won't be for years if ever.

I would think that's not what Nintendo is doing this time around. Making their hardware attractive to any dev, especially in time for launch, would be a good idea.

But, Nintendo could just be sticking to their old ways, just enticing EA/Acti to do more.

 

[ArtHands]

Or they aren't sending dev kits to every developer under the sun.

I think its more likely they aren't sending any dev kits to 3rd party developers at all.

probably 3 or 4 at most.

 

[Zombie James]

Or they aren't sending dev kits to every developer under the sun.

Why wouldn't they? Seriously, Nintendo's just coming off the worst industry bomb since the Sega Saturn. They should be reaching out to every developer possible.

 

[Barry Burton]

It's not getting 3rd party support, in the way PS4/ONE are getting. That's all.

.

 

[Guymelef]

Has Rebellion applied for an nx kit and signed the documents required?

So they should to sign before knowing what is for?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Isn't this everything that's wrong with Nintendo, though? If I worked for Nintendo, I'd want to be reaching out to these companies and trying to find out why they haven't supported Nintendo in the past.

Once you start having that conversation, you can find ways to resolve the issues. Surely that's what a good platform holder should do?

Ressources are limited pre-launch and Nintendo have bigger pubs/devs to court at this point.

So they should to sign before knowing what is for?

Well...yeah ? The system hasnt been announced/unveiled yet...ofc the plattform holder wont just show it to everybody beforehand if there isnt at least a little bit of interest.

 

[Xater]

I noticed that everyone love Nintendo in interviews like that.


It's not happening then.

Well Nintendo is apparently doing their best to not make it happen.

 

[ArtHands]

Somehow I don't think a dev who's made only one game on Nintendo hardware this gen (SE2 on Wii U without online) is high on Nintendo's priority list.

Lets be honest. Its rare to even find a 3rd party that has make even 1 game on a Nintendo hardware nowadays.

 

[DrWong]

Going by Trev's other articles, the ones with a third party developer as a source, it seems Rebellion surely isn't one of the "key partners" that have been working on the platform for a while, like Namco, Square, EA (?), but one of those who could aim for the general distribution of dev kits.

Rebellion isn't a "key partner" to anything lol :]

It's a non news NX related and it will only serve as a basis for the usual posters/postures about 3rd paties. War.

 

[thefro]

Going by Trev's other articles, the ones with a third party developer as a source, it seems Rebellion surely isn't one of the "key partners" that have been working on the platform for a while, like Namco, Square, EA (?), but one of those who could aim for the general distribution of dev kits.

Also if Trev's right, it should be fairly easy for Rebellion to port their titles over to the NX if they desire.

 

[shinobi602]

Has Rebellion applied for an nx kit and signed the documents required?

Apply and pay for a devkit before even knowing what it is? Why would anyone do that?

 

[Zombegoast]

Can you elaborate? Sounds fucked up/funny.

 

[Abyssal God]

Companies like Rebellion are not the kind of third parties that Nintendo is aiming at with NX, they want indies, mobile developers and Japanese studios rather than large Western companies. There is no market for Rebellion's type of games on Nintendo hardware, there won't be for years if ever.

I agree with this, the only western publishers that Nintendo will try to get are EA/Ubi/Acti like usual.

 

[GulAtiCa]

So we should confine it only to developers who have released games on a Nintendo system before? Seems counter productive. Shouldn't we be reaching out and collaborating with as many developers as possible?

Yeah, I agree with this. Them hiding is not doing them any favors. Also means their launch support (IF late 2016) will be lacking if devs get dev kits late. I understand them not giving dev kits or infio to lesser devs (like small indies that are small). But higher profile devs, esp ones that are producing their own retail games, Nintendo should be reaching out to them.

 

[wonderful103]

So they should to sign before knowing what is for?

All dev kits require application paperwork and NDA. In the case of a pre launch secretive product, there is a fairly prohibitive NDA in place.

If this studio hasn't applied, they aren't going to know anything. Why would they? The product isn't out or even revealed yet.

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

Why would they know? Have they ever released a game on a Nintendo platform before?

One would hope Nintendo finally embraces a more third party-friendly attitude, as many of their problems are due to extreme lack of third party support.

 

[Guymelef]

All dev kits require application paperwork and NDA. In the case of a pre launch secretive product, there is a fairly prohibitive NDA in place.

If this studio hasn't applied, they aren't going to know anything. Why would they? The product isn't out or even revealed yet.

Maybe because they are developers and not consumers...?

Maybe they must to spend thousands on devkits and wait to open the box to discover if there is a handheld, or what is...

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

But aren't the 'big dogs' like Ubi and EA in the know about it though? Maybe it's just a few developers that don't know about it yet. I sure hope that's the case.

 

[Ushojax]

I would think that's not what Nintendo is doing this time around. Making their hardware attractive to any dev, especially in time for launch, would be a good idea.

But, Nintendo could just be sticking to their old ways, just enticing EA/Acti to do more.

You are living in a dream world if you think NX will cater to cutting edge Western developers, everything they have said about their ideas for NX says otherwise. Nintendo's number one priority is creating a platform that can get their first party software sales back on track, their biggest franchises are selling horrendously in comparison to the Wii era and targeting AAA mega studios isn't going to fix that. They need a platform that is affordable first and foremost.

 

[TheMoon]

Didn't they cut some features from Sniper Elite V2 in the Wii U version?

Yes. The game only had the barebones singleplayer campaign in there. MP was gone completely. And it didn't support Miiverse/browser screenshots outside of the title screen. Having all the UI stuff on the gamepad was cool, though. And, I believe, it ran at 60fps (not entirely sure about this right now).

 

[Herb Alpert]

I hope Nintendo knows what they are doing.

 

[killroy87]

The more developers Nintendo reaches out to, the higher the chances of something leaking. It makes total sense that they are only talking to certain devs at this point, probably the ones with the highest chances of supporting them with quality software.