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Agreed.I like how he mentioned that the console was designed to have Kinect ubiquitous to the platform. That developers have this assurance means we should finally be seeing some more interesting use of the device.
Agreed.I like how he mentioned that the console was designed to have Kinect ubiquitous to the platform. That developers have this assurance means we should finally be seeing some more interesting use of the device.
this is really good PR. wouldn't be surprised if it actually WAS officially sanctioned, but presented this way to give it the appearance that it's not for authenticity.
no real surprises here.
The XboxOne revolves around kinect, it's far too integrated to ever remove. In addition microsoft has made promises to game developers that 100% of units will incorporate it.
game sharing was "full games" and DRM "had benefits" but no information outside of that.
There is no secret sauce, the PS4 is clearly more powerful. "how much" is the only thing up for debate.
It is interesting to see a company (non)spokesman engaging the community honestly to share how they view things and their vision for the system, rather than the clearly BS talking points and corporate arrogance we were getting before.
How is it an insult, he actually played the bloody game to be able to make a comparison while you only see like a 5 min gameplay videoThat is a insult to Darksiders 2 which has arguably one of the best western combat systems this generation. The only thing better is DmC and that was by and large the product of continuous input from Capcom Japan.
Could've, should've, would've.
They didn't.
Because Reddit AMA.
Why would MS still be spinning the DRM stuff? I mean, the battle is pretty much over and most people don't care anymore.
On the other hand the spec stuff people still care about.
Not particularly. Would it not be possible to have all(most) of the multimedia features available now, without Kinect? Just run them through the controller. Throw in a headset if they're so reliant on voice controls.We would get two identical consoles with identical features and identical games and it would be boring.
Okay so this is kind of a terrible AMA. He sounds like an MS spokesperson. He isn't commenting on anything that hasn't already been spoken for.
simple. Right now their biggest problem isn't the PS4, or the launch price, it's that core gamers who were paying attention in venues like Reddit, NeoGAF, or similar forums perceive microsoft as having tried to force some extremely noxious policies on gamers, while Sony is some kind of champion of consumer rights and used games for all.
Right now the PS4 is currently preferred something like 80-20 among the core among any poll you choose to look at, and this is why. Specs matter, games matter, but coming off as "Fuck you, pay me" overrides all of that. No one cheers for a bully.
Getting those potential customers back starts with spinning DRM as not a soulless, cynical money grab in which microsoft assumed we were all thieves, but instead a friendly policy that would have allowed us to share games among ourselves without restrictions! who doesn't love that? and it was full games, we promise! but you'll never see it because you didn't give us a chance to explain it!
Last MS exec interview they basically said that it was their fault on not properly messaging the benefits of DRM and then talking about all the people who liked those benefits.
Is pretty clear that the DRM reversal is just a strategic retreat, they clearly want them back.
Cboat is a shady source? How?Ha also said he wouldn't break any NDA.
At the moment, I don't think there are many reasons to believe in the 1-hour restriction. We only got a single, shady "source" about it, and it doesn't make too much sense that way : if it is only a demo for t
What third parties? That rumor wasn't true and you know it. Only third party that Microsoft showed were Metal Gear Solid V and Dark Souls 2. Sony showed more third party games than Microsoft.ICECOLD!!
I guess it was like: "yeah you bought all those 3rd party E3 exclusive showings just for nothing"
Yeah at 1080p. It could be 60 fps at 720p.Wait, the Kinect camera is 30 fps
They can remove kinect and absolutely have to before launch.
They can remove kinect and absolutely have to before launch.
A couple here:
How does DirectX 11.2 compare to OpenGL, and what advantages does it give you that OpenGL doesn't do just as well/at all?
The Xbox One architecture - how does it compare to earlier machines? Will it be easy to code and optimize for?
Would we also see the best graphics on Xbox this generation as well? (Multiplatform)
[]XboxOneDevConfirmed XB1 Dev31 points 16 hours ago
I code apps for the Xbox One like I code for win8 apps
I agree with the bolded part. Its not something you ever want to publicly admit.
Has there been any evidence that Kinect camera is a device that can actually be used to enhance the way we play games. It's cool for dance games and games that don't require much precision, but how does the new Kinect improve on the message of you being the controller? They didn't show any of this at E3 and its application in games that core audiences care about.We would get two identical consoles with identical features and identical games and it would be boring.
I think you read too much GAF and it has skewed your perspective on what the broader market care about.
Hmm, interesting.
Cboat is a shady source? How?
What benefits were there? You want to plug your ears because you and them have no argument. Microsoft execs saying it was full games after the fact is meaningless bullshit.Yea, and there were benefits. Benefits that we no longer have. I don't care what anyone says.
This was bs when it first came up, and it's still bs now. It was full games with no time limit.
I think you read too much GAF and it has skewed your perspective on what the broader market care about.
He was talking about the pastebin post not Cboat
Yup. Everything I'm hearing from MS post-180 tells me they're itching to take another stab at their draconian DRM scheme, except next time it will be packaged in much nicer sounding PR.
Cboat is a shady source? How?
Has there been any evidence that Kinect camera is a device that can actually be used to enhance the way we play games. It's cool for dance games and games that don't require much precision, but how does the new Kinect improve on the message of you being the controller? They didn't show any of this at E3 and its application in games that core audiences care about.
I would rather have two publishers and their internal studios working on powerful hardware or new control schemes and methods that make sense than to continue down the path the Kinect blazed this past generation.
As an outsider it seems like an input device that serves consumers of media, TV, and UI. To devote that much of the system's bill of materials indicates that the television aspects of the system and the mass market are the target with this product. Not gamers.
1 hour demo doesn't make sense if only one person can play it at a time. Also they said DLC is shared as well. Most of the time you wouldn't get a chance to even use the DLC.
Yeah at 1080p. It could be 60 fps at 720p.
Xbox 4 maybe bot not with Xbox One. Look at the amount of backlash and bad press they got over the DRM issues, they even sacked their head Xbox guy over it for christ sake!, can you imagine the amount of bad press they would get if they reversed their decision and actually went back to it mid generation. Its not going to happen.
note I didn't say anything about the broader market. I said the core.
Do you think microsoft "doesn't care" what the core thinks about it's console leading up to launch? who do you think lines up at midnight to pay $500 on launch day? Who do you think literally all of the E3 launch titles were aimed at?
Microsoft cant produce more than a few million consoles within the first year. neither can Sony. The pricing is high enough and games scarce enough that you're relying on the core to carry it though the initial first year or so.
Historically, the broader market has only ever cared about price and EA. MS is sharing the latter and loses out on the former.
Xbox 4 maybe bot not with Xbox One. Look at the amount of backlash and bad press they got over the DRM issues, they even sacked their head Xbox guy over it for christ sake!, can you imagine the amount of bad press they would get if they reversed their decision and actually went back to it mid generation. Its not going to happen.
Cboat confirmed it though
m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=65154131
"The majority of the masses care only about the console, except that the success of the Kinect carries much more weight to us. The sensor costs almost as much as the console to make."
"As I mentioned earlier, I don't know what price point the Xbox One would be at without the Kinect, but it would be much less than 399.
I see it not as a market that no longer exists, but one that haven't been explored due to technological limitations."
This is not what happened. Mattrick chose to go to Zynga, he wasn't forced out. note that MS still doesn't have anyone to replace him.
The core has moved on. GAF is a more hardcore community.
Well yeah they wouldn't have would they as they didn't intend on sacking him until the E3 backlash did they!. Anyway no one knows for sure but its a bit of a coincedence isn't it that the head Xbox guy 'leaves' a couple of weeks after some of the worst bad press Microsoft have probably ever seen.
That all reads like straight Microsoft PR.
That DRM stuff is coming back just as soon as people buy the console. Everything out of MS boils down to "We didn't message it right!"
This is not what happened. Mattrick chose to go to Zynga, he wasn't forced out. note that MS still doesn't have anyone to replace him.
Why would an Xbox One OS dev on Reddit talking about trashed features through ambiguous, overarching statements have any reason to mislead me?
How in the world is the Kinect almost as expensive as the console? Is it made out of gold and I just don't know it?
isn't Julie replacing him?
They can remove kinect and absolutely have to before launch.
isn't Julie replacing him?
Beause if what the dev says is true than the family plan would have been one positive thing about the X1 that ps fanboys couldn't spin into something negative without looking like total morons.
There are a lot of awesome features with the ps4 and it's a beautiful piece of kit but there are also a lot of really cool things about the X1 and it's also going to be a great system. Unfortunately ps4 fanboys are too insecure to admit that.