I much prefer Paul over Rich...
He tries to explain things a bit more.
Didn't even realise it was only a part 1. So guessing part 2 will be RAM and SSD.Yeah this one is a lot better than the DF video a little long though to be just part 1
If that's the RDNA2 design... Probably!So there is still a possibilty that ps5 cpu L3 cache is unified..
That's a Zen 3 feature apparently, it's in the video.If that's the RDNA2 design... Probably!
Edit: ZEN 2! God, I'm ill...
No, it would have been Zen 3 instead.So there is still a possibilty that ps5 cpu L3 cache is unified..
unified l3 CPU cache has nothing to do with RDNAIf that's the RDNA2 design... Probably!
Edit: ZEN 2! God, I'm ill...
Completely missed the edit huh...No, it would have been Zen 3 instead.
unified l3 CPU cache has nothing to do with RDNA
Did you watch the video? I know it's one of the features of Zen 3 but he says there is a possiblity.No, it would have been Zen 3 instead.
unified l3 CPU cache has nothing to do with RDNA
So there is still a possibilty that ps5 cpu L3 cache is unified..
10% chanceDid you watch the video? I know it's one of the features of Zen 3 but he says there is a possiblity.
So Hotchips brought a lot of Xbox fans dreams back to earth. No 32MB L3 Zen3, No 80Rops, no customized RT hardware that stomps RTX offerings.
It was fun to speculate lots of things in the past year, but honestly we ended up with two fantastically designed consoles.
He talks about the cpu L3 cache.Probably just the onboard SRAM that will most likely be used as L3 across the chip for CPU & GPU.
So Hotchips brought a lot of Xbox fans dreams back to earth. No 32MB L3 Zen3, No 80Rops, no customized RT hardware that stomps RTX offerings.
Mad thing is ZEN 2 and RDNA 2 aren't even properly out yet... And here we are, talking about the possible improvements to Zen 3s and RDNA 3s AND even 4s!
He talks about the cpu L3 cache.
Zen 2 released july 7 2019, it's more than 1 year old, we are waiting for Zen3 which will release in 2 months from nowMad thing is ZEN 2 and RDNA 2 aren't even properly out yet... And here we are, talking about the possible improvements to Zen 3s and RDNA 3s AND even 4s!
No. I avoid rumours... From all sides tbh.Have you seen Xbox rumors at the end of 2019, fans were trying to one-up anything revealed about PS5. Seems silly now, but then....oh boy
I don't recall Xbox fans stating any of that you mentioned. And so what if they speculated? All i see is Hot Chips stating that XSX's audio chip, design is just as capable as the PS5s, which sony/fans have been touting heavily. I guess you can basically take the PS5 superior audio narrative out of the equation now.So Hotchips brought a lot of Xbox fans dreams back to earth. No 32MB L3 Zen3, No 80Rops, no customized RT hardware that stomps RTX offerings.
It was fun to speculate lots of things in the past year, but honestly we ended up with two fantastically designed consoles.
Yes, yes, Zen 3 or 4 and RDNA 5 and 6.Zen 2 released july 7 2019, it's more than 1 year old, we are waiting for Zen3 which will release in 2 months from now
Yeah, cause sony fans haven't been doing the same thing? What about that 13tf non sense that many sony fans ran with? Or the magical fairy pixy dust and revolutionary of the SSD?Have you seen Xbox rumors at the end of 2019, fans were trying to one-up anything revealed about PS5. Seems silly now, but then....oh boy
L3 cache is specific name for CPU cache, yes the sram could be used as a cache, but not L3. It's just a name obviously...I know but in the end it will most likely be the on chip SRAM used as L3 cache for the whole SoC
That's a Zen 3 feature apparently, it's in the video.
It improves latency.Why is that feature good?
Paul's video's have a Sony bias to them though. He has way too many PS5 secret sauce videos. "Insiders" giving him the scoop on RDNA 3 and now Zen 3 nonsense. He does have that accent though that works for these type of videos. Even though he calls the SOC (system on chip) a sock.I much prefer Paul over Rich...
He tries to explain things a bit more.
By thin air you must mean discussing the content of the video the thread is about.so xbox hotchip analysis thread but of course some people are extrapolating from thin air ps5 is zen 3....
L3 cache is specific name for CPU cache, yes the sram could be used as a cache, but not L3. It's just a name obviously...
But again why are we talking about PS5... some Moore Law is Dead shit inside that evalution video?
Actually he is very neutral. He just has more infos about PS5 and people ask him much more about PS5. On the other hand Rich is very biased towards MS, always has being. DF have more info about Xbox because that info often comes from MS, not insiders, they are directly fed by MS. They always had a great collaboration.Paul's video's have a Sony bias to them though. He has way too many PS5 secret sauce videos. "Insiders" giving him the scoop on RDNA 3 and now Zen 3 nonsense. He does have that accent though that works for these type of videos. Even though he calls the SOC (system on chip) a sock.
ok so you too only see l3 ps5 cache in this 43 minute videos about xbox ?By thin air you must mean discussing the content of the video the thread is about.
so xbox hotchip analysis thread but of course some people are extrapolating from thin air ps5 is zen 3....
Paul's video's have a Sony bias to them though. He has way too many PS5 secret sauce videos. "Insiders" giving him the scoop on RDNA 3 and now Zen 3 nonsense. He does have that accent though that works for these type of videos. Even though he calls the SOC (system on chip) a sock.
I’m going to assume this video says some bad things about the Series X and points out how the PS5 will be better based on who posted it.
I’m going to assume this video says some bad things about the Series X and points out how the PS5 will be better based on who posted it.
This isn’t DF...No not really, its DF after all.
10% chance
80CUs? are you drunk, we knew about XSX CU count in march. L3 cache was reduced as expected, PS5 has same amount as XSX and Renoir mobile APUs, I can assure you
So youre telling me that theres no extra 25 tf...and to top it off not 4x 2080ti combined?!So Hotchips brought a lot of Xbox fans dreams back to earth. No 32MB L3 Zen3, No 80Rops, no customized RT hardware that stomps RTX offerings.
It was fun to speculate lots of things in the past year, but honestly we ended up with two fantastically designed consoles.
This isn’t DF...
Is it not ironic that you extrapolated that from "By thin air you must mean discussing the content of the video the thread is about."ok so you too only see l3 ps5 cache in this 43 minute videos about xbox ?
It's over, Nvidia wins
Total monster!
They are going 7nm TSMC now or 8nm Samsung or both, still not specified
I don't recall Xbox fans stating any of that you mentioned. And so what if they speculated? All i see is Hot Chips stating that XSX's audio chip, design is just as capable as the PS5s, which sony/fans have been touting heavily. I guess you can basically take the PS5 superior audio narrative out of the equation now.
I guess you can basically take the PS5 superior audio narrative out of the equation now.
It's based on AMD's GPU technology we modified a compute unit in such a way as to make it very close to the SPU is in PlayStation 3.