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[xDUMPWEEDx]

It's time to drop the mandatory Kinect.

 

[Prototype]

Why? Why doesn't everybody just enjoy every console exclusive games? People are wasting a lot of good experiences due to fanboyism. I wont "switch" im keeping them all.

oh yes! of course! because money is infinite!

 

[Sporran]

That first impression really screwed them. Stepped all over xbox core gamers for tv and sports. Xbox One name was another of the many what the heck moments.

Exactly, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, DOG

 

[CCS]

only 1.7k i understand that bold claim if it was a survey of over 1mil. or something

but with that said. the ps4 is selling like hot cakes. the price per performance is above the xbox one

1.7k is pretty large in statistical terms, when you see political polls done around elections they're sometimes done with as few as 1k people.

 

[netBuff]

The system in general is disappointing, their first impression was just part of the puzzle of their general failure to create a compelling gaming system by focusing on other media.

only 1.7k i understand that bold claim if it was a survey of over 1mil. or something

but with that said. the ps4 is selling like hot cakes. the price per performance is above the xbox one

That's a very reasonable sample size, 1 Million is an insane expectation for this kind of survey.

Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

Are you living in some kind of alternate reality? MS doesn't hold a candle in the exclusives department, they don't even have the developers for any theoretical future wins after closing down so many studios. They've had a more solid launch exclusive lineup (although not spectacular). I don't see them putting out half as much creativity or half as many titles compared to Sony.

And multiplats are universally performing worse on Xbone, including Thief.

 

[ShogunDarius]

well I have both 360 and PS3, I got a 360 due to the support it was getting in the early years, with Samurai Warriors 2, Ninety Nine Nights, the J RPGs etc. Then got a PS3 as that always had J RPGS etc. Then the Japanese games just disappeared for 360 and that console was relegated to exclusives i'm interested in only. That mindset is the same as I have now for the Xbox One Exclusives only.

 

[Ryo Hazuki 117]

oh yes! of course! because money is infinite!

Calm your tits & go read my post before this. Thanks.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Report: some last generation multi console owners are choosing PS4 over Xbox one as their first new console.

Pretty much.

 

[benny_a]

I don't doubt it, but is a poll on Yahoo really a "report?"

From a site that considers Thief a "stellar addition" to the games coming out right now?

The survey was done on DealNews.

So if you want to call into question the selection, then don't use the editorial of what the Yahoo Games team makes a good game. It's a non-sequitur.

You can say: Among price conscious dual console owners, the PS4 currently sees a higher adoption rate compared to the Xbox One.
Something like that should be the title.

Edit: Wow at your "nobody can touch Insomniac at Sony" comment.

 

[EGOMON]

Sony extensive support for PS3 with exclusives was a deciding factor for many of my friends who owned 360 last-gen to go with PS4 this gen

 

[PJV3]

Have people noticed it in the their friends list?

 

[geordiemp]

money and stuff.

Not really, can only speak for myself, X1 needs to run games better for me to jump on board.

In 2014.....720 / poor FPS or screen tearing and I just switch off...got better things to do with my gaming time than an assault on my eyeballs...

 

[madmackem]

I don't doubt it, but is a poll on Yahoo really a "report?"

From a site that considers Thief a "stellar addition" to the games coming out right now?



Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

What!!! Exclusives number wise is pretty much the same right now, and as for no one beats remedy or insomniac haha you do realise insomniac is a third party studio with only one game deal with ms? Sony also has way better real first party studios as proven last gen.

 

[Zalman]

It's time to drop the mandatory Kinect.

It's only a matter of time.

 

[viveks86]

Report: some last generation multi console owners are choosing PS4 over Xbox one as their first new console.

.

 

[Raven Prime]

Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

Wow..

 

[kmax]

Microsoft has no one else to blame but themselves. If they tried to appeal to gamers from the get-go instead of going with the whole "TV-TV!" angle, then they would of had much better prospects from the start.

 

[cyberheater]

More expensive for an inferior tech. Consumers are not stupid, Microsoft.

Indeed. I'm a huge Xbox fanboy but I'll never buy a Xbox One. Stupid MS.

 

[Rad-]

Yep that's me too. They really messed it up with the price.

It's 549€ here in Finland.

 

[Steroyd]

Im not talking about the people who cant afford it. Im talking about the people who can yet they dont. And im not talking about multiplats games, im obviously talking about exclusives. I mean, sticking yourself with xbox wont let you experience a beautiful game like TLOU. Sticking yourself with playstation wont let you experience a beautiful game like Halo. Not to forget Nintendo's amazing platform games.

Why not wait till the generation is nearly over where you can get all the exclusives + console for super cheap with the added bonus if the next console is B/C if you're only gunning for exclusives.

 

[mrklaw]

Did they ask those gamers if they plan to eventually have both?

 

[Raven Prime]

Calm your tits & go read my post before this. Thanks.

Perhaps you should include the premise that these people must have tonnes of time and money, before you make the claim? That way you avoid damage control mode.

 

[Hoo-doo]

I don't doubt it, but is a poll on Yahoo really a "report?"

From a site that considers Thief a "stellar addition" to the games coming out right now?



Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

Ahhahaha, oh god. This is something else right here.
Microsoft with the superior selection of developers? Someone wake this guy up.

Is this perhaps just very poorly done sarcasm? Or a joke poster?

 

[cyberheater]

It's time to drop the mandatory Kinect.

It won't help. MS has already lost this gens console war.

 

[CCS]

Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

Seriously? Naughty Dog are at least as good, SSM and Media Molecule are in my opinion as well. So much fanboy there.

 

[ExoHazMatt]

Im not talking about the people who cant afford it. Im talking about the people who can yet they dont. And im not talking about multiplats games, im obviously talking about exclusives. I mean, sticking yourself with xbox wont let you experience a beautiful game like TLOU. Sticking yourself with playstation wont let you experience a beautiful game like Halo. Not to forget Nintendo's amazing platform games.

Respectfully, that's probably something you should have specified in your original post. Instead, you seemed to assume it's all due to fanboyism. Even here on NeoGaf, where members are pretty much all invested gamers, you see loads of people noting that they just can't afford it. If money isn't an issue, I'm with you (I own just about everything), but that just isn't feasible for a lot of people. It's an expensive hobby.

 

[NateDrake]

Not really surprising. Several of my friends who played primarily on Xbox 360 bought a PS4 because of the lower price.

Titanfall is tempting some of them.

 

[-MD-]

I dumped the xbox camp a little after Kinect came out. And I was a huge 360 fan in it's first few years.

Can't say I miss it at all.

 

[geordiemp]

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

eh ?

Saw the performance on major important selling games such as COD Ghosts / AC4 and BF4 and stopped reading right there....

If some indi or low selling game performs better due to say "a 10 man team" missing something in settings then Its not exactly important is it.........

...and hardly a benchmark indicator of future console performance...

 

[Pungza]

I don't doubt it, but is a poll on Yahoo really a "report?"

From a site that considers Thief a "stellar addition" to the games coming out right now?



Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

lol Insomniac, what was their last good game that wasn't a R&C?

 

[mrklaw]

It won't help. MS has already lost this gens console war.

I want them to do this just to shake things up and they've done it before on Xbox. Not sure how much appetite they'd have for that, but if they keep the x86 architecture they could include BC or even forward compatibility to ease any transition

 

[iMax]

Xbone is also a significantly worse machine than PS4 at a higher price point.



Because MS has had a terrible line-up of exclusives for years now, so that might Xbone not make worth the purchase of $500 for just a handful of games.

The system in general is disappointing, their first impression was just part of the puzzle of their general failure to create a compelling gaming system by focusing on other media.



That's a very reasonable sample size, 1 Million is an insane expectation for this kind of survey.



Are you living in some kind of alternate reality? MS doesn't hold a candle in the exclusives department, they don't even have the developers for any theoretical future wins after closing down so many studios. They've had a more solid launch exclusive lineup (although not spectacular). I don't see them putting out half as much creativity or half as many titles compared to Sony.

And multiplats are universally performing worse on Xbone, including Thief.

 

[benny_a]

Did they ask those gamers if they plan to eventually have both?

If they asked, they haven't published the answer to that question.

 

[FeiRR]

Im not talking about the people who cant afford it. Im talking about the people who can yet they dont. And im not talking about multiplats games, im obviously talking about exclusives. I mean, sticking yourself with xbox wont let you experience a beautiful game like TLOU. Sticking yourself with playstation wont let you experience a beautiful game like Halo. Not to forget Nintendo's amazing platform games.

The fact that you can afford something doesn't necessarily mean you have to buy it. I don't see a point in wasting so much money on a console which is technically worse than two other platforms I already have just to play one game which I'm interested in. And I bet that Remedy game will come to PC sooner or later. I'm far away from Microsoft's target demographics and so are my friends.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Im not talking about the people who cant afford it. Im talking about the people who can yet they dont. And im not talking about multiplats games, im obviously talking about exclusives. I mean, sticking yourself with xbox wont let you experience a beautiful game like TLOU. Sticking yourself with playstation wont let you experience a beautiful game like Halo. Not to forget Nintendo's amazing platform games.

I don't really think it's about fanboyism at all. Most people don't necessarily care for all the different exclusives nor do they have the time to play them all. Not all of us want huge ass backlogs or buy stuff just because we can.

 

[EGOMON]

I don't doubt it, but is a poll on Yahoo really a "report?"

From a site that considers Thief a "stellar addition" to the games coming out right now?



Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

 

[mrklaw]

If they asked, they haven't published the answer to that question.

That's a shame. While it is interesting to see what their current purchases are, I'd also like to know whether they would still expect to buy both - presumably multi console owners are interested in exclusives, so many may expect to buy both eventually

 

[justsomeguy]

Yahoo poll shows some PS360 owners have only bought one next gen console so far

 

[caleb1915]

Calm your tits & go read my post before this. Thanks.

Just because someone can afford something doesn't mean the incentive is there for them to buy it.

 

[MavFan619]

I don't doubt it, but is a poll on Yahoo really a "report?"

From a site that considers Thief a "stellar addition" to the games coming out right now?



Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

Sony, weirdly, is completely failing to deliver.

And heck, it's actually performing better on a few multiplatform games (wtf).

I'll give that Xbox1 had a stronger launch of exclusives but it seemed to come at the cost of ignoring the 360's last few years. That's something I personally consider when thinking of an eventual Xbox purchase. As I was a fan of the PS3 exclusive output up until and beyond PS4's launch it made me getting a PS4 for more than what was available at launch (Infamous) easier. I wont touch the thing about the developers I have a clear bias towards the Sony 1st party output.

 

[Chobel]

Right now, Microsoft is beating the crap out of Sony in the exclusives department, with a stronger launch line up, a stronger selection of developers (nobody at Sony can touch Remedy or Insomniac--nobody), and more announced games, with more to come.

lol

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

The crazy thing is that MS could've taken this generation easily if they:

1) More or equal specs as PS4.

2) Kinect not required

3) Lower price as PS4

4) Had backwards compatibility.

Would've won or at least taken a sizable lead. Now it's almost in the same doom category as the Wii U.

 

[LAA]

Not surprised at all.
I did own a 360 for most of last gen, getting a PS3 closer to the end, so 360 made me "switch" before next gen started really.

Don't really understand blind loyalist attitude though. I don't think I've ever liked something that much I can 100% believe they can never do anything wrong so I don't need to consider any competition, which I have seen a lot of people do actually. Just go for the product you think is best for you, and judging from the survey and sales, seems more people think the PS4 is better for them.

 

[Big_Al]

I bought a PS4 and I'll most definitely be buying an xbox one eventually. Just waiting for the right time, price and exclusive to get me interested.

 

[Sophia]

Im not talking about the people who cant afford it. Im talking about the people who can yet they dont. And im not talking about multiplats games, im obviously talking about exclusives. I mean, sticking yourself with xbox wont let you experience a beautiful game like TLOU. Sticking yourself with playstation wont let you experience a beautiful game like Halo. Not to forget Nintendo's amazing platform games.

Money doesn't quite work like that. I could afford an Xbox One if I really wanted to save up for it, but it's value is currently pretty poor. For me, Kinect is a big factor too, as it doesn't add a whole lot of value to the package, but increases the cost a lot.

 

[PJV3]

Respectfully, that's probably something you should have specified in your original post. Instead, you seemed to assume it's all due to fanboyism. Even here on NeoGaf, where members are pretty much all invested gamers, you see loads of people noting that they just can't afford it. If money isn't an issue, I'm with you (I own just about everything), but that just isn't feasible for a lot of people. It's an expensive hobby.

People also have other interests and shit to do, I don't want a house full of ghastly looking equipment either.

One console (2 max) and one handheld is enough, add my kids gaming stuff to the pile of endless wires etc and It becomes an annoyance.

 

[Marvel]

I was primarily a 360 guy last gen so this describes me. Though I did own a PS3 late in it's life for the incredible Sony exclusives. I'm now just a PS guy with only a PS4 after selling the XB1.

Very happy.

 

[seventynine]

Just because someone can afford something doesn't mean the incentive is there for them to buy it.

The amount of free time a person has is also a consideration. I have a lot less now than I did at the height of the 360/PS3 generation.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

It seems MS wants consumers to not be informed in their purchases. I'm not anti-Xbox or anything like that, but the value of the XB1 just cannot compare to the PS4. I cannot understand the reasoning behind the people buying the XB1. No offense to those that did, but in my eyes that was a bad decision. But I guess opinions.

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[Log4Girlz]

I made mine into a pie. Oh, ONE S. My apologies.