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Republicans Vote to Make It Legal to Ban Gays and Lesbians from Adopting
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It's already legal for them to do so. I'm against legislating a ban until we have enough research to justify such a thing...
Exactly. People advocating for the advancement of Christian values will be the same ones opposing the advancement of Islamic values by the same token.
I also find it disconcerting that there are several references to how this is akin to selling products between buy and seller.
Children are not products, they are individuals with rights, and chief amongst these rights are the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; rights not to be impeded by religious test as no child is born to a religion.
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There certainly is an overlap, but most people don't want any religious law period...
TheShadowLord
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Okay. I wasn't sure because your question sounds like it could have gone either way so I got confused.
It's really nuts considering the end result will be the same between two. And yes I noticed how a couple have equated these kids are products, and talking about "the market."
Is that really true though? I imagine a large portion of your country does otherwise it wouldn't be such a big component of Conservatives in America currently no?
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ResurrectedContrarian
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Um... what bizarrely confused responses. You have the actual causal relationship of this legislation almost perfectly inverted, which is a rather impressive feat given its simplicity.
The measure discussed here pulls back government micromanagement of adoption by not forcing a single viewpoint in the disputed matter of what kinds of parents are appropriate for a child, deferring it to the judgment of agencies. Adoption agencies themselves will then make that determination in accord with their own values, which preserves their independence and lets them pursue their own calling -- which is enormously important in this kind of social work which tends in all times and places to have the vast majority of its burden carried by those who feel deeply called to devote themselves to the difficult task, and who will therefore always tend to be predominantly associated with a strong religious affiliation.
If you really think the law should eject Catholic adoption agencies from the public square, which pair children only with natural opposite-sex couples, you'll absolutely end up with fewer total adoptions, because these are the groups that do the work. And if you say "just force them to conform to my beliefs about parenting or get out!", you're not seeing the motivating link that makes those who are devout -- and who see children as a natural gift rather than a project or right owed to any random two people -- inevitably be those who are most willing to work hard to help abandoned children find homes.
“Devout” as a term is nothing more than egotistical, self-aggrandizing nonsense.
My grandfather was a staunch catholic, a Knight of Columbus yet his duty and compassion as a medical officer ensured that when his catholic sister-in-law sought an abortion, he went with her in the event there were complicating medical issues. This was in a time when abortion was illegal.
Is he suddenly less a Catholic? By whose decree?
If religious institutions must withdraw their participation because they won’t put the rights of the child first, then so be it. By their actions we see the inhumanity of their faith, an example of their constant and irrepairable weakness.
The true humanitarians will find a way to continue extending their compassion.
My grandfather was a staunch catholic, a Knight of Columbus yet his duty and compassion as a medical officer ensured that when his catholic sister-in-law sought an abortion, he went with her in the event there were complicating medical issues. This was in a time when abortion was illegal.
Is he suddenly less a Catholic? By whose decree?
If religious institutions must withdraw their participation because they won’t put the rights of the child first, then so be it. By their actions we see the inhumanity of their faith, an example of their constant and irrepairable weakness.
The true humanitarians will find a way to continue extending their compassion.
Sakura Doritos
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I find your post completely without compassion and the fact you seem to be devoted to your belief ironic.
I have no compassion for religious dogma and it’s adherents. Religion is an artefact of humanity, a seeking intelligence in need for answers that are uncomfortable and unknown.
Some may use this as a model for life and that’s fine when it comes to your own action. Opt to extend its cruelty on others and well... expect to be opposed.
LordPezix
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Hear, hear!
Again, the problem is solved by asking to non-religious associations.
The real problem is that those organizations are too few in the USA and Europe.
sometimes i game
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There's not even logic in this. If Republicans banned gay people as well as single parents, ok, maybe they're really sticking to a moral code where they only believe in a complete traditional family (although, completely misguided, it would at least be consistent). They're just running on hate and discrimination as usual.
LMFAO. Now we like science, but when science tells us things like we are destroying the earth, we do not like science. Or when a black person kneels for the flag we LOVE America, but when our President stands next to Putin and says "America should be ashamed of themselves, Russia is strong and powerful and I believe Putin" we do not love America.
It's amazing. Fucking mess.
LMFAO. Now we like science, but when science tells us things like we are destroying the earth, we do not like science. Or when a black person kneels for the flag we LOVE America, but when our President stands next to Putin and says "America should be ashamed of themselves, Russia is strong and powerful and I believe Putin" we do not love America.
It's amazing. Fucking mess.
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It's almost like people are individuals and don't all share a brain with those in their group...
Forthefuture
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Bless your bleeding heart then rare republican.
Ethical Hedonism
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lmao have you ever had a history class
edit: reading the moderation actions ITT while this shitposter is able to continue spewing his completely baseless shit is something else
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But you can argue that a powerful segment of society wants it.
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