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Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)

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LooseGoose818

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@Eolz You got permabanned from ResetERA because they're trying to cover their tracks. Even if you yourself are into pedophilia, the fact you were involved in a discussion surrounding it was enough for them to want to purge you and your friends, because they don't want the spotlight on them to expose the real pedophiles. Best-case scenario, too. Worst-case is, of course, all ya'll creepy pedos.
 
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cormack12

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I know the main eyes here are going to be on the screengrabs and the staff at era but I think it's going to be very interesting to see how those journalists and devs with connections with the site adhere to their journalistic principles and reporting guidelines in light of this. I'm talking about the residents Schrier and Klepek, and those EA devs on the site and people like EZA. It's going to look very problematic and damning considering the way they report on other controversies......and what about the other influencer's that lance the boil of controversy like the Jim Sterlings of this world?


I think this will be the response, which ironically will just add fuel to the 'cover up' fire.



For those coming to post their version of events, I think they should be heard and respected. Ultimately, no-one is mobilising big campaigns or doxxing anyone, this is more of a



moment. The case has been put to the court of public opinion, I hope they are as understanding and impartial as they were to all the other people Era put in the dock.
 

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Also /v/ is banning people who post about it now. The mods of /v/ have always been considered off by the users but this takes the cake. When Neogaf imploded the site owner had to step in and tell them to calm down. It doesnt make any sense that, with all the other stuff they let slide, /v/ of all places is banning people for even attempting to discuss it? Something is up, coincidence or not.
" You take the Reset pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the Neogaf pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more. "

 
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Lionel Richie

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I do not have a lot of time to GIVE an list of his posts, but Nemesis' posts on ERA are being purged now...
What happened to listen and believe? It's all fun and games to flat out say that everyone mildly associated with THQ is a pedophile and to say that PDP shot up the mosque, but to damage control this they just try to just delete everything? On the internet in current year?? They expect that to work? This is some new level of lazy authoritarianism, it's like they can't even see the irony of the situation. They probably can, but they think banning people who bring it up would be enough.

Not nearly good enough you fucks.
 

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Having read and posted on both ResetEra and NeoGAF, I would hope NeoGAF would be better than this.

Before I get people jumping down my throat and stating I'm being a ResetEra defender (or at worse saying I'm excusing behavior), the shit in this thread is the reason why I started posting on ResetEra and posted less or not at all on NeoGAF. Since people have left for ResetEra, those remaining on NeoGAF have developed a 'us vs them' mentality and it's constant trashing of former members of NeoGAF/current members of ResetEra/ResetEra/etc. on here. It's made reading posts here more insufferable, let alone posting here. This helps no one. This doesn't help NeoGAF. This doesn't help ResetEra. This doesn't help the gaming community as a whole. Someone has already mentioned past indiscretions of people that I will not go there or bring up.

As someone correctly mentioned earlier, this is not a ResetEra problem or a NeoGAF problem. Pedophilia is everywhere on the internet and in every community on the internet. That is shameful and disgraceful that it happens. It happened here long ago. That the original poster stated I find interesting that the person was given enough confidence to get invited to a discord, had gathered information, saw what she percevied as actual misdeeds, took screenshots and reported it here. It doesn't make the person seem trustworthy and completely derails her argument, even if what she said is happening and even though it was wrong. The proper thing would have been to report this to the proper authorities if the person felt she was not being believed sufficiently by the person she contacted and NOT to a rival message board or better yet not posted online at all. If she has already done that, then fine. It makes me suspect that it was done on purpose. Again, Celine B Sykes is not in the right either based on my perception of this thread so far.

Dice's post more eloquently summarizes my views as well on this. The posts after his post questioning his loyalty is a perfect example of what my issue is.

EviLore's actions in this thread doesn't help either, but essentially it's his site, his rules. What I think or believe about this is immaterial. The proper thing would be to close this thread. I could have sworn that it was mentioned not to engage in battles between ResetEra and NeoGAF back when the split happened and that NeoGAF would be moving on, but what do I know and why should I be listened to anyway? The amount of posts I've seen in this thread talking about ResetEra proves otherwise.

If you think or believe I should be mocked or ridiculed and my argument picked apart, then so be it. I would hope this site would do better now that the supposed "bad elements of NeoGAF are gone," but I was wrong.


You wrote a lot of shit but it has little substance. In the end you're deflecting the blame for the degenerate fucks with the "Neogaf" should be better spiel. Who named you our moral arbiter? And your goddamn right there's an US vs them mentality. I don't get off on children and hide under the guise of being progressive. I don't wake up looking for rage or to blame others for the failures I encounter. Those people have tricked themselves into believing their normal. They're the majority. Reality is quite different. If you don't want to post here then don't. Nobody's forcing you to participate. But don't expect sympathy from us on this matter. This isn't a joke and it personally fucking disgusts me. If proven to be fact they should all be castrated in public and branded on their foreheads so they're forever marked as the pieces of shit they are.
 
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Would make sense for pedo rings to get into gaming, kids like games, after all. Controlling Moderation and Media with an iron fist also helps a lot.
 

Barnabot

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I see what you mean. I'm usually slow on the uptake, but I'm growing more and more suspect about the timing (and the real objective) of a lot of those "controversies".
Then what you think about those "controversies"?
 

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It'll be my last post here in any case, I don't have more time to dedicate and want to log off to concentrate on other stuff. I also believe that I made my case clear as to why a lot of the things in OP concerning us, normal users, are misinterpretated. I hope everything I said was enough to clear my names to those willing to hear me out. I've also apologized for my rudeness to OP, which was one of the reason I came.

Goodbye.
 

Eolz

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I do not have a lot of time to GIVE an list of his posts, but Nemesis' posts on ERA are being purged now...
Can you link to some of the posts removed/scrubbed, or are they straight-up deleting them without a trace? :pie_thinking:
Sorry, just to post this before I leave to rest for a while. Nemesis contacted me just to say that he requested his account deletion.

He just wanted to clarify that, since he's seen that you were wondering why his posts were disappearing.
 
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DunDunDunpachi

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Sorry, just to post this before I leave to rest for a while. Nemesis contacted me just to say that he requested his account deletion.

He just wanted to clarify that since he's seen that you were wondering why his posts were disappearing.
Ah, I didn't expect a response, but thank you.

Much appreciated, Eolz.
 
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Since my name was visible in one of the screen caps but I was never actually part of any of the conversations listed, I can provide my part for at least one segment. Looking at the entire conversation of age of consent discussion’s context, it actually was incredibly innocuous(as some have already explained) and was in part a discussion on a topic on a rape that had made news where other members in era focused more on the age than the act itself. That’s all I can parse.

However I will absolutely defend Luigiblood. He was painted as something he was not in this whole situation. You clearly see he was speaking an entirely different discussion in the screenshot, left, was @‘d a joke in French, and he had responded to that soon after during that conversation. He wasn’t saying he loved that lower age of consent. At the very least, that requires an apology. He literally had nothing to do with any of this and CelineD chose to drag him into the mud.

I’m not gonna attempt to defend anything else on this, cause that shit’s fucked. That’s all I’ll really say on it.
 
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Celine.D.Sykes

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Here's my answer to Kano (and LuigiBlood to some extent).

I hope I managed to convince you that I really have nothing to do with those accusations. It's the case for almost everyone from that server, like Eolz just said. You managed to digged out illicit content from someone I was not aware was doing this, and I'm as disgusted about it as anyone else. But it's really about the specific users
How can you say you're sure it's just about him though ? If I didn't post the illicit content and Casiopao comments, you'd currently try to cover his back too, just like you do for everyone else. Don't you find it weird that all those people joke about the same things, have the same conversations and all of sudden (at the surprise of no one), one of them, someone who was all your friend for a long time, spending his whole life there, is proven to be someone with some issues ? Isn't it weird that I I'm the only one who were aware of his tendency, despite being on this discord sever for two weeks and never have exchanged with him ? Yeah, I call bullshit, unless I'm the luckiest woman in the word and the best investigator you can find in the world or you're all the stupidest bunch of people on internet.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but it's also important to not push someone's luck.

If possible, once Celines comes back and if she agrees too that it's a big misunderstanding, that my nickname (only asking about mine) could be scrubbed from the OP. Just so that I can definitely cut all ties.
So you want me to cover your tracks ? No, sorry. Maybe try to ask Resetera's admins, just to see how far their jurisdiction reach. I've heard they were willing to change your pseudo and all, just to make the case a little more confuse for everyone. Who would have thought ?

Pedophilia is a vile digusting crime that I condemn with all my will. I hope you can trust me with that, and I really want to prove it.
I had 4 hours to dig into that discord server and I didn't have the time to screen cap everything before getting kicked. Now, if you really condemn pedophilia what about asking Vena (?) to make the discord server public for everyone to see and dig ? You'll pretend you don't know him too, just like Casiopao ? Why didn't you searched for "vile" content on that discord before leaving ?

I just want to clarify that it wasn't exactly to "protect her", because it'd be dishonest. I was indeed angry, and sent a DM aggressively but as you said, it was under pressure. It was really a big mistake and I address OP my sincerest apologies.
You realize it was a mistake because you got exposed publicly ? You had all the time to react and apologize before that. I'd be really curious to see how the discussion went and your (LordKano) reaction on that infamous discord server just after the story hit.

You want my apology ? Take it, it doesn't matter. It's not about me and people can insult me all day, for all I care. Again maybe the important thing is that this infamous server should be made public for everyone to dig and see if lucky me did find everything there was to find in the few hours I had (while discussing with Cerium, mind you). Before everything is quickly purged and put under the rugs, of course.

I'm sorry, but I call bullshit on the misinterpretation. You're just trying to cover names and clear that discord. It would have been better to advocate for that discord server to be made public if there was nothing to hide. How convenient it is you cut ties from that server... I would have asked you to dig up more content and type more common pedo keywords than I did, just to see if I'm the luckiest woman in the world or if there was more stuff to dug up. Too bad and so convenient.

There's a point you don't cover in your attempt of defending yourself. When I got kicked, I went to tell you the reason (pedo related discussion). I was trying to make you talk about it to see if there was more (since I was kicked and couldn't gather more proves). You can't pretend I didn't warn you though. I did, very clearly. Did you take the time to investigate for yourself ? No, you don't even asked me a SINGLE question about it. You just went silent about it and continued your participation in the server, until everything blew up.

Here's the proof of the discussion (you changed your pseudo, of course, but it's you) :

Just a little element I forgot to mention : LordKano was one of the few (three ?) moderators on this sales discord. He wasn't just a random user.





Me : (Got) Banned from the sales discord for exposing two/three pedos in there to Cerium.
LordKano : I saw that.
Me : Do you find it normal ? I don't. You're not one of those weird pedo, don't yout think it doesn't make sens ? (I was not convinced Kano wasn't a pedo himself, I was just trying to make him talk a little).
I went to Cerium directly, I've not published that publicly. Results : he blocks me and I'm banned from the sales server.
I've just told him it wasn't normal to let those people browse the forums, where there's potentially underage participating.
I know you're not a nasty person, so I'm asking you, how did they framed that on the discord ? (attempt of making Kano talk) ? Did those people were punished or something ?

LordKano : Sorry, I have no information on this (despite being one of the three main moderator of the server ?). I've just been informed that you've been kicked and that the decision came from above, that's all. You weren't alone by the way.

Let's make a little pause here. You're saying that Cerium wasn't involved in this discord and that ZhugeEx was just a commoner in this server ? That he just had a title for the laugh ? How is that, you, LordKano, one of the three moderator of this discord server, didn't know why and how I was kicked/banned from it, me and some others lurkers (who could have also leaked stuff) ? You said it yourself, the decision came from above. The decision came just after I went to Cerium. How isn't that a proof of Cerium or ZhugeEx involvement of shutting and locking everything down ? Who were above you exactly ? Outside of ZhugeEx and Cerium's reasons for banning me, who else had any reasons to ? Again, I call that a vast amount bullshit.

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Me : Ok thanks. You're someone good. I've thought they would have talked about it publicly.
LordKano : Nope, in fact you're making me aware it was about pedo stuff.
Me : It's completely for that. It's linked to that yes (duh)
LordKano : I've just been made aware of the decision, I've no idea of the reasons.

So, someone is telling you that there's some pedo stuff on the discord you spent your entire life on. Telling you how she was banned for bringing this stuff up and you don't see a single problem in going on, participating, spending a large amount of time in it ?

Yeah, sorry if I also call bullshit on your explanations. You're just trying to back your little group of friends.

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Plus, you and Luigiblood are saying that it was all just a gross misunderstanding, right ?

Here's Luigiblood twitter account : https://twitter.com/LuigiBlood (https://archive.fo/ia4FG)

Here's an interesting quick bit :

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Quick translation from french to english of this little conversation.

- We[N]döh : Do someone knows some japanese torrent websites, made in japan ? It's not for porn, it's for putting my hands on the japanese version of Deus EX 3, lmao.
- LuigiBlood : I'm learning stuff : /wikipedia link of Perfect Dark, a japanese torrent/ (Classy name)
- We[N]döh :Those stuff are infested with Child Porn.
- A deleted tweet from LuigiBlood. (Of course)
- We[N]döh : Bah, when you type "Daft Punk", you just see stuff like "PTHC KRISTINA 8yo", you quickly understand LMAO
- LuigiBlood : personally, I go to some websites and I didn't see stuff like that...
The discussion then goes on about how LuigiBlood tell his friend he never stumble on child porn, despite his friend finding child porn content on his first try of searching for something else (Daft Punk).

How weird it is that from ALL the hundreds japanese torrent servies/websites he could have named, the first one LuigiBlood is thinking about and advising his friends to use is Perfect Dark. Everyone interested in how pedophiles operate on the net, perfectly knows that perfect dark is indeed one of the best source for vile depiction of underage children, be it simple drawings or more serious stuff. Does that prove that LuigiBlood is a pedo ? No, of course. But again, that might put a stain on the way you're all trying to frame stuff. This time, there's no MGS to hide behind.

Smoke, fire ?

Edit : fixed some typo.
 
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Since my name was visible in one of the screen caps but I was never actually part of any of the conversations listed, I can provide my part for at least one segment. Looking at the entire conversation of age of consent discussion’s context, it actually was incredibly innocuous(as some have already explained) and was in part a discussion on a topic on a rape that had made news where other members in era focused more on the age than the act itself. That’s all I can parse.

However I will absolutely defend Luigiblood. He was painted as something he was not in this whole situation. You clearly see he was speaking an entirely different discussion in the screenshot, left, was @‘d a joke in French, and he had responded to that soon after during that conversation. He wasn’t saying he loved that lower age of consent. At the very least, that requires an apology. He literally had nothing to do with any of this and CelineD chose to drag him into the mud.

I’m not gonna attempt to defend anything else on this, cause that shit’s fucked. That’s all I’ll really say on it.
The fact that y'all are spending time discussing the merits of age, consent, physical appearance of minors, and all that other shit, is reason enough to condemn the whole situation. These aren't subjects that normal well adjusted people discuss in social situations. I don't bring up loli's in casual conversation, and I don't discuss when and if it's acceptable to lust over a drawing that looks like a child, because they just aren't useful conversations that advance any topic outside of just straight up being a fucking degenerate. Do something better with your time.
 
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Hello everyone. It’s been a long time since I posted on gaf, but now I’m here in an attempt to clear out my name. I’m not a native English speaker so sorry for the few mistakes.

I thought long about this too, and despite being told that it would be better to just not engage conversation, I have hopes that people here will understand my arguments in good faith. I will not talk in names of the others, but only of mine. Because I’m a victim of misinterpretation. I'm not here representing anyone else but myself.

This server, which I was part of, was made to discuss video game sales numbers. It’s what fuelled the conversation most of the time. It’s not affiliated to era but usermade. It was not a server made for prominent members to make discussion with the staff. It’s all there is to it. The reason why you may recognize some popular names is because they’re all sales-related. It was a big place to discuss video game sales (be it Famitsu numbers, NPD, Media Create, PAL charts…). We never had any input in any kind of moderation issue. Most of the time we actually disagreed with the moderation, and a lot of us (including myself) got banned multiple times. I even considered going back to GAF at one point. The reason our server was private is because we didn’t want any console warring in it

Some discussions went off-topic, notably when it concerned moderation (as we often disagreed on it) and one of those is screencapped in OP, where a thread about GTAV and rape was made which caused many bans of Era members. From that point, we discussed legal perspectives and legal dispositions regulating those matters. That’s all there was to it. We discussed the difference between the age where you become a legal adult and the age of consent, which I mixed in the course of the discussion because, as I said, I’m not a native English speaker and definitely not well-versed in that field.

As for the threats OP claimed she got, I’m deeply sorry about the aggressive tone I may have conveyed. I just went out of school when someone linked me the thread and I was immediately filled with anger that someone I once considered a friend (and of which I thought it was reciprocal) accuse me of the sort. I sent a discord DM (the one OP screencapped) asking what the hell was going on and why would she do that. It ended abruptly as I was angered and saddened at the situation. I want to precise I didn’t threaten anyone of legal actions. My last sentence was very much made because of worries that OP, knowing her difficult situation, could be put in danger if someone took all of it very seriously and decided to sue her for defamation. I apologize to OP if I came across as threatening, but that wasn’t my intent.

For the LuigiBlood post, I believe he already explained his situation (which was tied to me merely because I was talking about the Metal Gear Solid 1 French dub).

As for my recent era name change, it was in hope that people would just forget about me. I didn’t want to come post here because I don’t like the attention. I’m no one important, just a rando like anyone here. I’m not affiliated with era or anyone else. I was just spending time on a discord server talking about games sales and anything that was discussing in general chat. I never expected that anyone could have interpreted my posts like that. I’m not a pedophile, nor was I ever interested in underage people. I’m still at university. My part of this situation is a big misinterpretation and I really want to prove it.

I’ve already cut ties with the server, and the people this thread rightfully pointed out as potentially very suspicious once their twitter account was digged out. I’m not affiliated at all with those people. I only talked with them in the context of game sales and what topics came in the general chat. I don’t know most of the people outside of that, and definitely not those affiliated with pedophile content. I’d also like to point out that nowhere did the server endorsed even remotely such content. Two of the people (the two most of this thread is about) got banned/kicked from the server and that nobody ever posted endorsement of pedophiles nor imagery of underaged people in the server and that the moderation would have taken action upon that without a doubt.

I’m no different than any of you, I’m just a random internet user fanboying over some games and ranting about others. I really want to clear out my name. I understand why you people would pursue people suspected of diving into pedophilia and other illegal fields, but I’m really not one of those people. I hope this was enough of a statement to at least testify of my honesty.
Sucks when the court of public opinion immediately decides you're guiltily doesn't it? Karma's a bitch isn't it? You and the rest of Era have done that constantly and now it's your turn to feel what that's like.
 
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It's always the case that those who go around laying down the law are the ones committing the crimes.

Edit: for clarity, I should say I'm speaking generally rather than about any specific users. Innocent until proven guilty.
 
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Smoke, fire ? I let people be judge on that, even if I have my opinion on all of that.
The act of publicly suggesting a torrent site at random, especially just putting up a wikipedia about it, and then going oh damn the sites I’ve gone to haven’t had that does not mean fire. It means an honest mistake. Especially when you’re going back like 6 years into the past to find one incident.
 
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The act of publicly suggesting a torrent site at random, especially just putting up a wikipedia about it, and then going oh damn the sites I’ve gone to haven’t had that does not mean fire. It means an honest mistake. Especially when you’re going back like 6 years into the past to find one incident.
Bro, you need to stop posting.
 
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