ArkkAngel007
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I think most people, given my observations in these threads, just focus on Mercenaries when they speak highly of the game. Given that's where it feels the mechanics were built around, the gameplay in that regard is great.
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Resident Evil 6 has the best mechanics and Resident Evil gameplay.
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I think most people, given my observations in these threads, just focus on Mercenaries when they speak highly of the game. Given that's where it feels the mechanics were built around, the gameplay in that regard is great.
CambriaRising
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Holy crap
robotzombie
Member
I'm not saying it is, the game did a terrible job of teaching its own mechanics, but I'd still bet that is the case for most people who played it and trashed it, especially gameplay wise
User 479360
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Say what?
I disagree. It was a boring, problematic piece of shit.
I disagree. It was a boring, problematic piece of shit.
ArkkAngel007
Member
NO.
I don't see the point in ignoring it. Especially if they have Revelations in there.
Edit: Thing is a bit of a mess. Feel like it's just an oversight.
WrenchNinja
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And yet I would still rather play RE4.
Jawmuncher
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It would be perfect. I'm just imagining rolling around shooting raptors and melee being knife base (or stun baton). So good.
I honestly can't remember how I played the game. I just remember not having any fun with it.
Best coop experience ever. 3 weekends were spent lovingly playing it with a friend and then a surprise 4th on my own. A total blast and pure craziness. Loved it. I miss the days when games were created to be more fun with friends. Just awesome.
-MD-
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It's a good system of game mechanics tied to a campaign that's bloated with way too much straight-up bad shit. If I had to give the game a score out of 10, it would be a 7.
People don't care about game mechanics anymore (because people are terrible) so somehow that translates into 0/10, the 9/11 of video games, this game kicked my dog levels of hyperbolic disdain from people who played maybe an hour of the campaign.
Mercenaries is great fun.
People don't care about game mechanics anymore (because people are terrible) so somehow that translates into 0/10, the 9/11 of video games, this game kicked my dog levels of hyperbolic disdain from people who played maybe an hour of the campaign.
Mercenaries is great fun.
Marty-esque
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I played RE6 a lot when it came out and for all the hate it got I enjoyed it. I played dozens of hours of mercenaries.
Then I came back to it months later and I realized why it got so much hate. You can't go two minutes without something ridiculous happening that completely takes you out of the game The part at the gas station in Leon's campaign with the survivors where that bus or car comes out of nowhere kind of sums up the experience. There are a ton of moments like that. The qte events are the worst I've ever experienced. There are sections where you just feel like they wanted to frustrate the player.
Then I came back to it months later and I realized why it got so much hate. You can't go two minutes without something ridiculous happening that completely takes you out of the game The part at the gas station in Leon's campaign with the survivors where that bus or car comes out of nowhere kind of sums up the experience. There are a ton of moments like that. The qte events are the worst I've ever experienced. There are sections where you just feel like they wanted to frustrate the player.
plantedunicorn
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We can pretty much agree that RE6 is not a survivor horror game or whatever genre it was. It's now straight up an action 3rd person shooter and I have seriously no problems with that. I loved the shit out of RE5.
What pisses me off the most about RE6 is after establishing it's a shooter, it then proceeds to be stingy with ammo drops, at least that's what it felt like to me playing the game. There should seriously be no circumstance when I have no pistol ammo. It's a damn shooter give me the means to shoot my damn gun. I know the common argument is well you're supposed to stun them then go melee them to death but that's bullshit. If they wanted melee to be the main way for you to kill enemies they should have refined that shit to perfection. An enemy is on the floor, I go press R1 and Leon performs a roundhouse kick. That's just stupid, that should never happen if you want me to use that method more often.
All in all Capcom needs to drop the pretense that this series is still a survivor horror and just let me shoot the shit out of every enemy is see.
What pisses me off the most about RE6 is after establishing it's a shooter, it then proceeds to be stingy with ammo drops, at least that's what it felt like to me playing the game. There should seriously be no circumstance when I have no pistol ammo. It's a damn shooter give me the means to shoot my damn gun. I know the common argument is well you're supposed to stun them then go melee them to death but that's bullshit. If they wanted melee to be the main way for you to kill enemies they should have refined that shit to perfection. An enemy is on the floor, I go press R1 and Leon performs a roundhouse kick. That's just stupid, that should never happen if you want me to use that method more often.
All in all Capcom needs to drop the pretense that this series is still a survivor horror and just let me shoot the shit out of every enemy is see.
The game has grown on me as I've been playing it. Completed the Leon and Chris campaigns, and am on chapter 3 of Jake's. Doing the run and slide mechanic and various other melee moves is extremely satisfying. There's a lack of polish, which is pretty easy to tell when playing, but it's one hell of an action spectacle and I'm going to see it through. Mercenaries does seem like a better fit for this gameplay style with the open arenas then the campaign, though.
ArkkAngel007
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Jawmuncher, NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Kind of liked the 'tactical' nature of the first game. Choosing to use lethal ammunition or tranqs, security gates, vents...always thought it would be cool to make those all real time in order to isolate and maneuver around enemies.
Then again, Dino Crisis went the full-blown action route in 2 and went bonkers to the detriment of the series in 3, so at least it would be more fitting than it was for RE.
Kind of don't want the only methodical series out there to be FROMsoft titles lol
Rabbit Clock
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Yup. People seem to forget that the rest of the game surrounding the shooting mechanics is complete shit.
Or maybe they just don't think it is? People have different opinions.
Astral/H3X
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Resident Evil 6 is shit.
Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries is awesome.
Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries is awesome.
d00d3n
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Even if this was true, wouldn't you have preferred a shorter game that distilled the best ideas down to a 15-20 hour or so experience?
This is pretty much my view. Mechanics are solid but the actual level design and pacing are fucking awful. Why did I have to do that mission where you bomb fucking AA guns for reinforcements to land like 500 times? And what the fuck was up with the 'final' boss in Leon's campaign. I swear it was just an hour of fighting him as he turned into hundreds of different forms. The guy just seemed to take forever and I lost interest minutes in.
UpperCaseN
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are... are you me?
I agree RE6 has superior mobility, I just mean TEW came close in terms of the shooting itself, which is extremely solid
NecromorphTX
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Sadly, it's the worst Resident Evil i ever played.
With another name and scenario design, RE6 will be easy one of the best TPS of the past generation
With another name and scenario design, RE6 will be easy one of the best TPS of the past generation
Hippopuncher12
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I need to finally play this game.
this thread feels like a trap devised to lure in the usual driveby shitposters but i just can't resist
must be all that re6 brain damaging me
plus you got actual good hateposts like this:
must be all that re6 brain damaging me
plus you got actual good hateposts like this:
in which i challenge with:
Riposte
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"Combat mechanics" should include everything involving combat, like enemies and their use. Which is the say, I still think the game and its combat mechanics are fantastic, but it's annoying people give sloppy or inconsistent praise (I would prefer hate). Praising only Mercs is also dumb.
Anyway, this thread seems to be baiting for a heated argument.
Anyway, this thread seems to be baiting for a heated argument.
Chris is insane with roid rage, he already was in 5 and now he added drinking to it.this thread feels like a trap devised to lure in the usual driveby shitposters but i just can't resist
must be all that re6 brain damaging me
plus you got actual good hateposts like this:
in which i challenge with:
Spieler Eins
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None of that dumb modern RE shit could ever come close to the much deeper, complex and straight up masterful game design of REmake (and to a lesser extent, the other classic REs). And if I wanted anything you had described in the OP, I rather play something like Vanquish.
Everything was fine except for the aiming, which felt nastier, floatier and less precise than four or five. Both prequels make shooting much more more engaging. As fun as QTE Beat 'Em Up Combat is, it felt a bit cheap with the poor shooting. Improved with M&K naturally, but that's just not how I prefer to play games. Besides, it was designed with a gamepad in mind, and my opinions of 4 and 5 follow the same method of control.
BaraSailey
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I agree! The gameplay in RE6 felt great, and Mercenaries was the best part of the game because of that. Sadly, the rest of the game was pretty lackluster. It did have its moments though.
plantedunicorn
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You just put in words what I dislike about shooting a gun in RE6. I even switched to the laser sight and it never felt steady and precise.
No! We LIKED all the craziness, as well as the different scenes and pacing because it felt fresh.
You know, Resident Evil 4 gets all this acclaim for being so awesome, but that game had really ridiculous stuff and didn't hide it.
Giant Robot Salazar, mine cart jump, Krauser, Ada's flips, Leon's perfect knife throws, jumping down 30 feet, suplexes, repeating Merchant, a castle drilling machine, and Ashley driving a giant bulldozer!
4 started off serious but eventually made very little sense.
Why it gets a pass for being ridiculous(ly awesome) and 6 doesn't I'll never understand.
6 is totally an extension of 4.
4 crazy campaigns in one? Yes please!
ArkkAngel007
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I wouldn't say REmake was complex or deep. If anything it was rather simple. Definitely the better designed game though.
RE4 gets a pass, yes even with the story, due to that it was supposed to be intentionally ridiculous. For a series with plenty of quirks (Alexia's Great Balls of Fire, the whole faux Marcus debacle, every line out of Barry in the original), it was the first game to intentionally set out and be this crazy and funny game.
RE6 on the other hand, just like 5, tries to play both fields in seriousness and humor and [to me] it doesn't work as well. Can't say I cared for a lot of those things in 4 (lava room and robo-salazar in particular), but it still came together better.
And despite how ridiculous some of that stuff was, it was still better designed than most of what RE6 offered. Never felt that RE6's level and encounter design accounted for the mechanics as well as it should have.
I think it all stems from what my greatest issue with the series; that Capcom doesn't seem sure of what they want these games to be. With RE5 they wanted another RE4 with online, but the arguably best parts of the game were those when they weren't aping on moments in RE4 (and falling short). And then RE6 is just this mess pulling in several different directions in every aspect. Wish they would just put more focus if this is the route they're taking.
Well I'm glad you weren't the authority on the game design because I've clocked over 130 hours in RE6 and I'd go back anytime, for more campaign, or mercenaries! Man just thinking about the different scenarioes, especially Chris & Piers' campaign reminds me just how awesome the whole ride was.
typical classic riposte.
I'm not baiting anyone or starting a heated argument, I just want to praise RE6's gameplay. Yes I do like the enemies and their use and variety. I played quite a bit of RE6 today.
If people can make 50 LTTP praising RE4, what's one praising RE6 and it's gameplay?
Jawmuncher
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Id be ok with a take to the original style. Just I can see the RE6 style easily being implemented to a DC title. I would prefer Dino's being more threatening like in DC1 though. Which is why the tranqs and stuff were so cool in DC1. You have quelled the beast but for how long!
d00d3n
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The ridiculous/crazy stuff is not really an issue in either game. A large portion of the 40 hour experience in Resident Evil 6, or the 25 hour experience in Resident Evil 4, is made up of ordinary combat encounters. In RE4 the combat encounters were spaced out and escalated like the puzzles in a Zelda game, but in RE6 consecutive encounters felt more like the n+1 monster closet in Serious Sam.
ugh_the_boot
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Case closed! Look at the garbage, game was riddled with this nosense.
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