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Reuters: In call with Putin, Trump denounced Obama-era nuclear arms treaty
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ebullientprism
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Definitely Pakistan. US may have a loon for a leader but I still think there are enough buffers between him and a nuke launch to not feel quite as threatened.
Thankfully, I dont think a Cuban missile crisis like scenario is possible in the modern day political climate. So you can get by with a leader that is dumber than a box or rocks.
For the new page.
That is literally why he decided to support #BREXIT.
Listen to Trump, in his own words, admit that he knew nothing about Brexit except that Obama was opposed to it. Finding out that Obama was against it was the sole reason Trump ended up supporting it. According to his own words at least.
Fast forward to 12:30 if the video starts at the beginning.
That is literally why he decided to support #BREXIT.
Listen to Trump, in his own words, admit that he knew nothing about Brexit except that Obama was opposed to it. Finding out that Obama was against it was the sole reason Trump ended up supporting it. According to his own words at least.
Fast forward to 12:30 if the video starts at the beginning.
sechsterangriff
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I imagine Putin helping Trump is a situation akin to when the USSR where initially helping China with their nuclear program, but quickly backpedaled when they realized Mao was fucking nuts.
March of the Crabs
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Putin sucks but he is very smart. Trump sucks and he is very dumb and impressionable. This is not going to end well.
Vladimir Putin
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Urine big trouble Trump
Well Putin has good reason to scale down. All he wants is him and his oligarch buddies to roll in cash forever. Cant do that if the world's a charred wasteland.
Doing this would be even more stupid. And how the fuck would that be a good deal for the US?
Buffers?
Even if that is his bottom line reason for scaling down nuke amount still you shouldn't turn that gift horse away. Trump shooting extension down like he did is fucking moronic.
Amount of doors between him and nuclear football.
SoundsOfScience
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Give us some kompromat on him, Putin. Just do it
CassidyIzABeast
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Almost 63M people voted for this guy folks.
Byakuya769
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No puppet, no puppet.
No puppet, no puppet.
iRAWRasaurus
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So who's the true master now? Putin or bannon? Does this mean the pee pee tapes are coming out?
I think the interesting question now is how many still would. I'm confident it's smaller, but by how much?
Linkstrikesback
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Fucking oompa loompas. No wonder Willy Wonka kept them well under boot, they're insane.
SoRuffShoNuff
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Trump thinks every deal agreed upon before he reached office was a bad deal because he thinks he is the greatest negotiater. Since he didn't negotiate previous deals, they are bad by default.
I don't think so since he's doing exactly what he promised, so there's no major reason for a Trump elector be dissatisfied at this point.
Regulus Tera
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Are there really? Expediency of decision is the whole reason the football briefcase exists. It's not like Congress would have enough time to legislate over Trump launching nukes in an incoming missile scenario.
I feel like this is the case - he is just too broadly dismissing ideas his name isn't attached to to suggest a cogent direction of policy. The kneejerk denouncement here, too, says very little other than this.
In the end, Trump will do whatever Russia is interested in and claim it was always his great idea all along.
IIRC, the football can only be activated in the event of a strike already launched against the US. It can't be used to start shit.
Many claimed to not believe he was going to do exactly what he said and that was why they felt comfortable voting for him. Many of his voters wanted to shake things up and shrugged off problems with the wall and banning Muslims by saying he didn't mean those things literally.
Also maintaining a large nuclear arsenal is expensive. C&C, training, maintence, etc.
It's not a good deal at all, I think Trump and Putin are trying to play this whole nuclear negotiation as an exchange for the sanctions being lifted. It's a total bullshit deal but it will make billions for billionaires. When it's done Trump is going to be, look at this great nuclear deal I made, I played hard ball and redid Obamas bad deal. Meanwhile Russia gets everything it wants and Trump waves a nuclear deal not worth the paper it's printed on.
ColdDeckEd
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"vladdy, throw me a bone I need something that won't make me look like a puppet"
I guess the vast majority of Trump supporters loves the wall and banning imigrations from some muslims countries.
btw, in Europe 55% of the people wants the same thing regarding muslims. It's a popular vision in the west now and understandable due to the fear of terrorism.
cooljeanius
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Was he just not paying attention the first time, or is he starting to forget stuff?@MaggieNYT said:
poppedcollar69
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Can someone Photoshop Putin onto GOB's face, saying "I've made a huge mistake"
I don't know that that is true of the "vast" majority. I believe without hesitation that if the election were repeated today Trump would easily lose. To be fair I think that would be due not only to many people not voting for him who did before but for more people getting out to vote against him who didn't earlier.
His approval ratings are abysmal at this point.
He's Ronald Reagan second term levels of mental health. From now on I'm calling Trump "Second Term".
Yeah. If Russia want this I think people in America must be distrustful since that clearly Russia doesn't like USA and only thinks about their own interests.
FunkyMunkey
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fuck you you dangerous and stupid piece of shit
Vyse The Legend
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Doubtful. Putin could have Trump removed at the snap of a finger
and the release of the pee tape.
Depends of the poll, he has more approval in some of them.
But looking at the election I don't think this polls should be taken so seriously.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Polls were off by two points.
Vyse The Legend
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Nothing was wrong with the election polls. Nothing.
On the national level, they ended up being 100% right about the popularity split. On the state level, they fell exactly within the % margin of error.
Polls were fine on average, their interpretations were not. And even if we take the most inaccurate polls and use them to adjust his approval and disapproval number they would still be awful.
Electoral college analysis gave at least 75% percent of chance for Hillary, some were as high as 98%.
Trump's win was one of the majors upsets in the history, almost no one saw that was coming.
If you're from South Korea, it's North Korea.
If you're from India, it's Pakistan.
If you're from anywhere else - including the US - it's the US.
ClosingADoor
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Fucking Putin offers you to scale down his nukes. And you refuse?!
This would make the world a safer place and save the American people billions of dollars. God damn it.
This would make the world a safer place and save the American people billions of dollars. God damn it.
Not by Trump. I think he is genuinely clueless and is being used as a pawn.
But I agree with the underlying sentiment. Some sort of concession will be given by Russia which will be touted by Trump as a great win to lower sanctions on Russia as a sign of good will towards our future. Agreement to reduce arsenal will save money for both countries, which gives even more good press for both. That it's similar to what Obama did will impress no one as people don't read the details.
All the while they will say they are tough on Russia per Hailey statements at the UN (which address a portion of the total sanctions anyway).
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