PowderedToast
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i have some good memories of confrontation. there really was nothing like it on consoles at the time. dem early days of ps3 with my buddies and our headsets, hehe
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RIP SOCOM: ....Confrontation, SOCOM 4, MAG servers going down
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crazepharmacist
Member
I hope Warhawk's not next. That'll be a sad fucking day.
chalkitdown1
Member
It would raise awareness of it and get new players into it, if nothing else.
it's not a Sony game and it's slated to come to PC
Sony can go fuck themselves. Even a SOCOM 2 HD at this wouldn't get me to buy a PS4. the way they treated the series this gen was insulting.
Syphon Filter
Member
we'll see how that turns out.
thehillissilent
Member
H-Hour's World Elite is coming out for the PS4 in addition to the PC.
Singularity42
Member
So I'm just going to assume I will never be getting my SOCOM 2 HD that I've always wanted?
Man I have some fond memories of SOCOM 1 and 2, hell I even made some life long friends from those games. We used to call and txt each other every night to make sure the whole clan was logging in to do ladder matches or to practice or to just sit in the lobby and shoot the shit! I miss those days.
Damn good times had
Man I have some fond memories of SOCOM 1 and 2, hell I even made some life long friends from those games. We used to call and txt each other every night to make sure the whole clan was logging in to do ladder matches or to practice or to just sit in the lobby and shoot the shit! I miss those days.
Damn good times had
Kenshin001
Member
Damn, I was just about to trade in MAG with a bunch of other games too. Thought the servers were still pretty active.
93xfan
Banned
read up on ita little more. Had no idea it was coming to PlayStation 4. This actually sounds great! And I see no reason why they would be denied the rights to classic Socom maps...
I dream that the MAG IP is (somehow) revived next gen. Never before have I poured more hours into an online game as this, bloody devastating.
Raven 4 lyfe! (Well, till next Jan anyways...)
It's a decent game on its own but no way in hell was it basically an HD version of S1/S2.
Gameplay was too slow. Encumbrance and the ability to sprint alone already sets it apart from the original Socom games. On top of that, we have maps designed primarily after deathmatches. Then all those little things like no jump climbing, lobbies with no text chat, no first person view, less maps, less weapons, etc...
Well, let's see if they get a sugar daddy first. The kickstarter was to create a tech demo they could show off to a publisher that would fund them ...
Jest Chillin
Member
I see no reason why Evo would be denied Smash tourney's but Nintendo tried to do it. Whether Sony has plans for the Socom IP or not, it's clearly worth money so there's no way they're letting any of it's assets go without some serious cash.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Just give it away free to everyone
Make it a nice gesture
Seriously, I highly doubt the sales are still on the uptick
SEGAvangelist
Member
Man.. pretty cold for million seller titles. Wonder if it's a legal thing.
crazepharmacist
Member
I was thinking about picking up a refurbished PS2 slim and these games. Anyone know if they're still played on Xlink?
liquidspeed
Member
Davd Sears the Creative director of S0com 1 and 2 as well as one of the main artists from Socom two ( who designed Desert Glory, Fish Hook, Night Stalker etc) are designing a spiritual successor to Socom 2 called H Hour.
Their goal from their own mouth, is to bring back "SOCRACK"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KAf5n1uUfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2lXQXGJ5qs ( From David Sears)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79T9r8rgmbg ( Designer of Popular S2 maps)
ProfessorMoran
Member
So sad.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
This is why I'll never give Sony my complete trust.
yongeandcollege
Member
MAG was my most played MP game this gen. It'll be missed but I haven't played in about a year. Valor! KEQ!
crazepharmacist
Member
These games have dedicated servers. You can't keep em up forever, especially if the communities are dying.
blazinglazers
Member
MAG was something unique, and really deserved another iteration. Next gen MAG2 could've been amazing.
Damn, I had a lot of fun with that game.
R.I.P.
Damn, I had a lot of fun with that game.
R.I.P.
i am disappoint
I actually liked MAG. Socom 4 was a turd, and SOCOM Confrontation never really captured the magic.. but man, poor Zipper
I thought Zipper went under shortly after unit 13 was released on vita?
Either way , shitty news.
Ofc the socom games were meh , but mag was good.
Confrontation <3
Despite all the hate, I really liked it and enjoyed every minute I played of it, after they fixed it.
So many sandwiches were made in the early days of Confrontation.
I sure hope Warhawk's not next. Even though I sold my PS3 roughly 2 years ago, I sure miss playing those two games.
Despite all the hate, I really liked it and enjoyed every minute I played of it, after they fixed it.
So many sandwiches were made in the early days of Confrontation.
I sure hope Warhawk's not next. Even though I sold my PS3 roughly 2 years ago, I sure miss playing those two games.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
SOCOM died the moment I brought home part 3 and was shot and killed, then run over by a Jeep and it counted that as a death too. 0-2 start just like that. Not to mention door sounds opening for no reason on Citadel ....
I'll always thank SOCOM 1 and 2 for being my start to online gaming... but boy did they all suck after that.
I'll always thank SOCOM 1 and 2 for being my start to online gaming... but boy did they all suck after that.
they fixed it, and then like 2 months later released Cold Front which completely destroyed the game.
Tilly is the most broken weapon ever. VERA isn't that far behind it.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Sony wasted Zipper. They were a great studio last gen, but never really found their feet this gen because I imagine largely due to dumb management decisions filtering down for them to COD-ify SOCOM. MAG was a top online shooter IMO with a really great community back in the day, but it was sent out to die between Modern Warfare 2 and Bad Company 2 with next to no marketing, and Sony really should have moved with the times and made it F2P about 18 months ago. Instead, they shut down the developer
I think a MAG 2 with proper vehicles and improved mechanics would have been bloody awesome. It seems desperately unfair that Zipper's fate was tied to a game that underperformed due to the PSN downtime, and then another which was published on a console which had a very slow start.
I think a MAG 2 with proper vehicles and improved mechanics would have been bloody awesome. It seems desperately unfair that Zipper's fate was tied to a game that underperformed due to the PSN downtime, and then another which was published on a console which had a very slow start.
Would love to get a group together soon and play some MAG with you all.
Odd timing for all this as I was just digging through some of my sequel ideas a while back and found this stuff... would have been fun!
Air Strikes and Drops
Additional air strikes, scans, team-wide enemy hindrances and friendly enhancements give the commanding player of each team much more of a role in winning a match.
New Air Strikes
Retreat the leader deploys a giant smoke screen and disables forward spawns while increasing the respawn rate at the rear spawn points.
Scorched Earth eliminates all scavenge-able weapons, mines, and anything else deployed or dropped on the ground
Propaganda triggers VO from certain locations in the level and causes enemy bleed-out rates to greatly increase (among other effects).
Light Helicopter Strike Think the Little Birds from Blackhawk Down. These would be similar to strafing runs but add missiles/guns that could be player controlled via the CNI which would automatically open when called.
Improved Gas Bombardment This strike is relatively weak compared to that of the attacker PL we should consider increasing the gas radius or spreading the existing particles out so they affect a wider area.
Napalm Strike Similar to the Strafing Run but with only one pass using fire to melt anyone in the initial LOF and deal persistent damage to anyone who comes in contact for a tunable period thereafter.
Tactical Nuke Eliminates all players on the battlefield or within a single Platoon with tremendous force that is easily visible from neighboring platoons who could receive partial damage based on distance of strike for a tunable period.
Anti-personal / Vehicle mine deployment Via an airstrike or UAV, this strike would be similar to a cluster bomb except that its bomblets would remain intact until an enemy player came into contact with them. Limited number of bomblets with a tunable radius persistent for a tunable amount of time.
New Air Drops
Additional air strikes, scans, team-wide enemy hindrances and friendly enhancements give the commanding player of each team much more of a role in winning a match.
Resupply drop a temporary supply point that is parachuted in via transport planes.
Vehicle drop a light vehicle that gets airlifted into a level by a helicopter (similar to what you see in Acquisition games) at a location the OIC or platoon leader chooses
Several other franchises have covered parts of this since then, but what we envisioned for the future of MAG was pretty grand. It's a shame we never got a shot to move the franchise forward...
Odd timing for all this as I was just digging through some of my sequel ideas a while back and found this stuff... would have been fun!
Air Strikes and Drops
Additional air strikes, scans, team-wide enemy hindrances and friendly enhancements give the commanding player of each team much more of a role in winning a match.
New Air Strikes
Retreat the leader deploys a giant smoke screen and disables forward spawns while increasing the respawn rate at the rear spawn points.
Scorched Earth eliminates all scavenge-able weapons, mines, and anything else deployed or dropped on the ground
Propaganda triggers VO from certain locations in the level and causes enemy bleed-out rates to greatly increase (among other effects).
Light Helicopter Strike Think the Little Birds from Blackhawk Down. These would be similar to strafing runs but add missiles/guns that could be player controlled via the CNI which would automatically open when called.
Improved Gas Bombardment This strike is relatively weak compared to that of the attacker PL we should consider increasing the gas radius or spreading the existing particles out so they affect a wider area.
Napalm Strike Similar to the Strafing Run but with only one pass using fire to melt anyone in the initial LOF and deal persistent damage to anyone who comes in contact for a tunable period thereafter.
Tactical Nuke Eliminates all players on the battlefield or within a single Platoon with tremendous force that is easily visible from neighboring platoons who could receive partial damage based on distance of strike for a tunable period.
Anti-personal / Vehicle mine deployment Via an airstrike or UAV, this strike would be similar to a cluster bomb except that its bomblets would remain intact until an enemy player came into contact with them. Limited number of bomblets with a tunable radius persistent for a tunable amount of time.
New Air Drops
Additional air strikes, scans, team-wide enemy hindrances and friendly enhancements give the commanding player of each team much more of a role in winning a match.
Resupply drop a temporary supply point that is parachuted in via transport planes.
Vehicle drop a light vehicle that gets airlifted into a level by a helicopter (similar to what you see in Acquisition games) at a location the OIC or platoon leader chooses
Several other franchises have covered parts of this since then, but what we envisioned for the future of MAG was pretty grand. It's a shame we never got a shot to move the franchise forward...
Garrett 2U
Member
This is one reason why a cloud infrastructure is beneficial.
It allows servers to be allocated based on demand. Hopefully, next gen with cloud will rid of these service shut downs.
It allows servers to be allocated based on demand. Hopefully, next gen with cloud will rid of these service shut downs.
Portugeezer
Member
Gotta keep those Starhawk servers up somehow.
Fucking easy mode
Agreed. Though not sure if it could have been considered "big budget" in the grand scheme of things.
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