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Risen (360/PC) First Details Revealed
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Joseph Merrick
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Lonesome_Raod
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Got the 360 version. It's a little clunky, graphically a little wonky and very, very dark. I am quite enjoying it though. Nice focus on exploration.
Joseph Merrick
Member
yeah, 360 review only. seems so. it's got all the pc links and images attached aswell though, really dumb.Minsc said:
and they also put up this brilliant news item today for (or against) the demo with the front page line "You should definitely try one of them.", http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/pc-demos-for-machinarium-risen
for fucks sake
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Deleted member 17706
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Is there a quick save button on the 360 version? I simply can't imagine playing a Gothic type of game without saving obsessively. Anyway, 5 more hours 'til the Steam release! Unfortunately it is almost 11pm here so I will have to catch it in the morning.
I can't wait!
I can't wait!
bigmit3737
Member
Played some at my friends place.
It seems pretty good so far.
VA is pretty good.
Different paths in storyline it seems depending on which faction you choose.
Graphics are pretty good, environment graphics.
Combat is not as bad as I thought. It's simple yet decent...and the animals get tougher after the "tutorial" section. I died a bunch of times already.
Exploring is good. It seems I already missed a shield and a bow.
I like it.
It seems pretty good so far.
VA is pretty good.
Different paths in storyline it seems depending on which faction you choose.
Graphics are pretty good, environment graphics.
Combat is not as bad as I thought. It's simple yet decent...and the animals get tougher after the "tutorial" section. I died a bunch of times already.
Exploring is good. It seems I already missed a shield and a bow.
I like it.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Steam still showing 5 hours until unlock. GAH hurry up! I have the day off and need to play this!
Confidence Man
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http://www.realgamer.net/xbox360/reviews/Risen.html
This guy gave it a 3/10. Obviously not someone who knows anything about the developer or Gothic series, as he suggests Risen steals ideas from Fable 2, Monster Hunter, and Bethesda.
Seems to fancy himself an "experienced RPG-er", too. :lol
This guy gave it a 3/10. Obviously not someone who knows anything about the developer or Gothic series, as he suggests Risen steals ideas from Fable 2, Monster Hunter, and Bethesda.
Seems to fancy himself an "experienced RPG-er", too. :lol
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Deleted member 17706
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Confidence Man said:
Hey man, he's a "real gamer".
This is what happens when an extremely PC-centric game gets released to the "console only" crowd. It certainly doesn't help that the port job seems to be rather horrendous.
brain_stew
Member
Well I called it, knew the 360 version was going to be a worthless, cheap, outsourced cash in. Anyone interested in this game was always going to be playing on the PC anyway.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Imported this from a UK seller for 360 since everyone is saying its region free. Will post my 360 impressions then...granted that might take a week or so to get here. :lol
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
360/PC comparison gallery, obviously the PC version was going to be the better looking, but my god, what the fuck is this shit :lol
http://www.videogameszone.de/aid,69...tity_id=219665&image_id=1201013&page=1&order=
http://www.videogameszone.de/aid,69...tity_id=219665&image_id=1201013&page=1&order=
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Deleted member 17706
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Wow... that just looks awful. Did they actually remove all the grass and wheat in the crops or is that just one horribly low LOD? I imagine the pop-in is glorious on the 360 version. It's like they turned on an "N64 filter" for those 360 shots.
brain_stew
Member
:lol :lol
They should have done the comparison at 1080p, to really drill home the difference. Heck modern PC hardware will still be running the game with much better performance at 1080p, so its only fair.
Someone should post shots of the game running with low settings to see if the 360 version can even hit that benchmark. I don't hold out much hope.
Risen: "The quest for the missing textures and foliage" is a more apt. title for the 360 version.
matrix-cat
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I played the PC demo, and I was getting a consistent 30FPS on my e8400/HD4850 rig at 1920x1200 with every setting high as possible. It's a pretty game, too, as long as you're admiring the scenery and not the people. And you never, ever jump under any circumstances. It's shocking to see the 360 version look so repulsive:lol
brain_stew
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dejan said:
So that's what the gap's like when they were being nice to the 360, then? :lol I dare not think what the difference will be like on a 1080p display then.
Downloading the demo from gamershell.com now, getting really fast speeds.
DieNgamers
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The game got pretty good reviews in german gaming mags.
brain_stew
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DieNgamers said:
Every single review of the PC version seems to be positive whilst acknowledging the obvious flaws. Its only really the existence of the 360 version that is making it look like its reviewing badly.
Cat in the Hat
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:lol at the 360 version.
I'm still trying to decide whether or not I'm gonna get the PC version.
I'm still trying to decide whether or not I'm gonna get the PC version.
T-1000_Model3
Banned
I tried the game out at friend's house yesterday,the npd are really low poly but everything else in the game is drop dead gorgous. Lighting,textures,smooth frame rate,which is cool because both our Pcs are about the same tech wise so I want the game soon. I tried mapping the game at with XPadder and oh boy,its gonna take some brain storming to do everything just right. It can be done but its not going to be nearly as good as the k/m set up.
Side stepping or evading when attacking enemies is really weird on the 360 pad. I mapped it to the left analog stick,was too twitchy,then mapped it to the bumper buttons,which was better but then you have to press the button twice to use a dash like tehnique to evade,its got a weird timing to me. Playable but something I'm going to have to get use to. Should have my copy this weekend if the local stores get it in. Around my parts they never carry many copies of these type of games so I'm thinking Steam might be my next route then.
Oh and boo! No fps mode. My friend tried tweaking a few files and couldn't unlock it,its a shame because the world in this game looks beautiful.
LOL..just received a call from the mall just now saying they got the game in. Apparently I preordered the 360 version,wtf why? Luckily they also have one copy for PC but its opened. Ahh fuck GameStop,why do you do this? Ofcourse I'll cave and buy it for new in 60 minutes. I'm weak.
Some of us need to chime in and compare how we have it configured via XPadder later today. I'll add mine abit later.
Side stepping or evading when attacking enemies is really weird on the 360 pad. I mapped it to the left analog stick,was too twitchy,then mapped it to the bumper buttons,which was better but then you have to press the button twice to use a dash like tehnique to evade,its got a weird timing to me. Playable but something I'm going to have to get use to. Should have my copy this weekend if the local stores get it in. Around my parts they never carry many copies of these type of games so I'm thinking Steam might be my next route then.
Oh and boo! No fps mode. My friend tried tweaking a few files and couldn't unlock it,its a shame because the world in this game looks beautiful.
LOL..just received a call from the mall just now saying they got the game in. Apparently I preordered the 360 version,wtf why? Luckily they also have one copy for PC but its opened. Ahh fuck GameStop,why do you do this? Ofcourse I'll cave and buy it for new in 60 minutes. I'm weak.
Some of us need to chime in and compare how we have it configured via XPadder later today. I'll add mine abit later.
brain_stew
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T-1000_Model3 said:
There'll probably be an update for Pinnacle Game Profiler available before long. For anyone that uses their controller for any serious amount of time its $20 very well spent. It automatically scans your program folder and will download fully configured profiles for your games, makes pretty much every game plug and play ona 360 pad. Much easier than fiddling with endless configuring, its all automatic.
T-1000_Model3
Banned
brain_stew said:
Interesting. Does the program take into account tweaking of the analogs,such as sensitivity? Also,can you map two or more buttons to one on the pad(i.e. SF4 super moves)
Pinnacle is lifetime or subscription based?
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Come on, stupid Steam Monkey, push that button! Christ.
CabbageRed
Member
C'mon Steam, it's the button labeled "make work." 
Steam seems to be pushing pre-orders, but don't really 'get it' yet.
Steam seems to be pushing pre-orders, but don't really 'get it' yet.brain_stew
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T-1000_Model3 said:
Yes, the profiles are already tweaked to work properly with a pad, and you can tweak sensitivities, acceleration and deadzones from there. I tried it with COD: WaW for instance and it felt just like controlling it on a 360 just without as much auto aim, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. There's hundreds of profiles built in and they're updated super quick, also sets up your pad to control the desktop and its the best implementation I've seen so far, more than good enough to launch games and other basic things.
I'm not sure on the two buttons to one, whenever I used I just used the preconfigured profiles as they're much better than I could ever have come up with.
There's a free 30 day trial, seriously check it out, its a really polished bit of software:
http://www.pinnaclegameprofiler.com/
Been trying out the demo and yeah, its clear to see why the performance demands are quite high and why the 360 just isn't capable of running the game. Its using some seriously high end technology, the shadowing, sun shafts and SSAO are as good as it gets. The environments are a little poly starved, the animation is terrible and the art isn't going to win any awards, but it can look stunning at times, that's for sure.
I never dipped below 30fps at 1080p w/ everything maxed on my GTX 260, and the nice thing was that in all outdoor scenes performance was pretty consistant no nasty drops or spikes, always hovered around the same level which was much appreciated.
Deus Ex Machina
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As soon as the 360 manual becomes available Pinnacle will have a official profile up.brain_stew said:
I was looking online to download the 360 manual to map the controls myself but it seems to be not out yet.
brain_stew
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Seriously the sun shafts really make the visuals, really give the fully dynamic day-night cycle a huge, Crysis like impact. Honestly, in terms of the quality of the dynamic lighting and shadowing, Crysis is the only game I could compare it to, it really is that high quality:
My framerate i locked rock solid at my 50hz refresh rate in the few internal areas in the demo, even with multiple shadow casting dynamic lights:
This game would really look incredible with a DX11 parch to bring in tessellation, the low poly environments/cliffs/rocks are the one thing really holding back the graphhics, well there's the crappy animation of course but that's part of the charm.
My framerate i locked rock solid at my 50hz refresh rate in the few internal areas in the demo, even with multiple shadow casting dynamic lights:
This game would really look incredible with a DX11 parch to bring in tessellation, the low poly environments/cliffs/rocks are the one thing really holding back the graphhics, well there's the crappy animation of course but that's part of the charm.
Deus Ex Machina
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Does anyone know where I can download the 360 game manual?
brain_stew
Member
Just delving into the demo's files and there looks to be a lot of yummy things to cofigure, including what looks like a fps cap and msaa setting. I'll let people know if they work. There looks to be a lot of potential for some "max++" graphics mods/config files here.
CabbageRed
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DarK SouL said:
No kidding.
What bothers me in situations such as this (with any company) is the lack of communication. Obviously something has gone wrong and presumably they are aware of it, so why not just say something. In most industries, someone would have apologized by now and assured everyone that they are working on it, but the anonymity of the internet seems to get the better of some companies and they choose to hide out from their customers.