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Road Rage'd Driver Gets Owned by yours truly.

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mernst23 said:
He was probably thinking nothing of it until the guy started to hassle him and flash his brights jackass. I don't know who the hell tails you and flashes his brights all the way back to your residence to tell you you have a broken taillight. Damn, that guy must've been a super good samaritan. Damn you OP and your inability to be rational! Putz.

Well, I still firmly fall into the camp that the OP could have handled things in a better way. He just wants to flaunt it.

Really though, it doesn't matter. You'll have the same ten posters arguing back and forth about gun control that you always do.
 
I agree that you probably took the best course of action you could, considering the circumstances (although I would not have driven home).

But the fact that you are reveling in the fact that you had an opportunity to draw a gun on someone is really the problem. Guns can easily take a life, and I'm sure the guy was an asshole, but probably an asshole in a fit of passion who isn't thinking rationally.

If he had approached you anyway, would you have shot him?

Penises getting hard when you click the safety off on a gun is a big problem in the world.
 
comedy bomb said:
Well, I still firmly fall into the camp that the OP could have handled things in a better way. He just wants to flaunt it.

Really though, it doesn't matter. You'll have the same ten posters arguing back and forth about gun control that you always do.
I would say no matter what you do, it is always hard to handle an irrational asshole.
 
comedy bomb said:
Well, I still firmly fall into the camp that the OP could have handled things in a better way. He just wants to flaunt it.

Really though, it doesn't matter. You'll have the same ten posters arguing back and forth about gun control that you always do.

I mean sure, you could've tried to find the nearest police station or public place, but I wouldn't have handled it much differently. If it were me i'd pull into my garage and get my trusty crowbar ready and kindly ask the gentleman to remove himself from my property. Here are the facts as I see them. a) Random asshole on your property with no business pertaining to you. b) He was acting aggressively. Actions justified.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
Bad people will get guns regardless of if they are illegal or not, so why keep guns from good people who just use them for protection?

Because there's no such thing as a 'Good' person and a 'Bad' Person. Anyone could shoot someone under the right (by right I mean wrong) circumstances.
 
RedShift said:
Because there's no such thing as a 'Good' person and a 'Bad' Person. Anyone could shoot someone under the right (by right I mean wrong) circumstances.

Slow down there soldier. There are circumstances where shooting someone is justified.
 
I think everyone needs to read the OP again... If that's as bad a situation he could paint from entirely his own perspective to pull a gun on someone... He's a fucking idiot... He could have at least given ONE SINGLE REASON for this guy to act like this. Oh no, i'm sure he was a lunatic who just wanted to kill him... This situation really has zero to do with guns, and everything to do with a sad, sad man.

Anyway, I HAVE been in a relatable situation, when I was 19 on my P plates. A guy followed me into a service station who I apparently cut off. He was flashing his lights and honking his horn with his hand waving out the window at me, obviously yelling. Already more violent than the OPs 'offender'. I'll choose not to 'profile' him with his car... I walked up to him as he got out of his car abusing me verbally, and I calmly apologised, talked to him, and calmed him down a bit, then offered to buy him a drink after I filled up my car with petrol. He admitted to having a shit day, we spoke about it, I bought him a Lemonade, we ended up shaking hands at the end. The world isn't an evil force attacking your liberty all the time, you know. Don't let life bully you into subscribing to the fear on fear orgy.
 
666 said:
I think everyone needs to read the OP again... If that's as bad a situation he could paint from entirely his own perspective to pull a gun on someone... He's a fucking idiot... He could have at least given ONE SINGLE REASON for this guy to act like this. Oh no, i'm sure he was a lunatic who just wanted to kill him... This situation really has zero to do with guns, and everything to do with a sad, sad man.

Anyway, I HAVE been in a relatable situation, when I was 19 on my P plates. A guy followed me into a service station who I apparently cut off. He was flashing his lights and honking his horn with his hand waving out the window at me, obviously yelling. Already more violent than the OPs 'offender'. I'll choose not to 'profile' him with his car... I walked up to him as he got out of his car abusing me verbally, and I calmly apologised, talked to him, and calmed him down a bit, then offered to buy him a drink after I filled up my car with petrol. He admitted to having a shit day, we spoke about it, I bought him a Lemonade, we ended up shaking hands at the end. The world isn't an evil force attacking your liberty all the time, you know. Don't let life bully you into subscribing to the fear on fear orgy.

You both sound like vaginas.
 
Mr. Sam said:
I can understand that in America, at least in some areas, it may be necessary to have a gun, even use a gun. This was not a situation where a gun needed to be used. The threat to the OP was not nearly considerable enough. Maybe he could have used it as a last resort, if the situation got out of control, but reaching straight for his gun - and then bragging as if he was some kind of tough guy afterwards - was just stupid.

Situation 1: There was no confrontation, no yelling, no police, no physical violence.
Situation 2: You sit there, let the dude charge you, and hope he only wants to yell because otherwise it is fisticuffs time.

And a bonus to situation 1: Asshole will think twice about following people to their houses.

Sorry, nothing you are saying explains in any way how situation 2 is superior to 1, especially when the main theme of your argument is something "could have" happened differently than it did. I could just as easily say the driver "could have" been packing anthrax on him. You just have a problem with guns, there is never going to be a situation where you will be ok with someone using one, even one as much of a no brainer as this.
 
comedy bomb said:
When your life or the lives of others are in imminent danger of great bodily harm?

You can determine that well in that kind of situation? Well enough to kill somebody? Not to mention that I can't imagine anything that'd make someone more likely to shoot than drawing a gun on them.
 
666 said:
Anyway, I HAVE been in a relatable situation, when I was 19 on my P plates. A guy followed me into a service station who I apparently cut off. He was flashing his lights and honking his horn with his hand waving out the window at me, obviously yelling. Already more violent than the OPs 'offender'. I'll choose not to 'profile' him with his car... I walked up to him as he got out of his car abusing me verbally, and I calmly apologised, talked to him, and calmed him down a bit, then offered to buy him a drink after I filled up my car with petrol. He admitted to having a shit day, we spoke about it, I bought him a Lemonade, we ended up shaking hands at the end. The world isn't an evil force attacking your liberty all the time, you know. Don't let life bully you into subscribing to the fear on fear orgy.
Did you get his number and meet for picnics?
 
This thread makes me really glad that I'm currently able to be car-free and living in an urban center. It's like fucking Mad Max out there.
 
666 said:
Yep, I should have pulled a gun, silly me. Oh, then i'd "have" a massive dick.

No, you were in the wrong so you apologizing makes sense. According to his story OP has nothing to apologize for, and unless OP hit the S10, he had no right to follow him to his home. Your home is sacred ground, and when someone who acts in an aggressive manner enters your property, all bets are off.
 
Won't judge the OP based on what happened, though I wouldn't have flicked the safety off unless I was absolutely going to shoot someone.

Can't agree with his post's Title and general style of content, though. Sounds like a kid bragging to his friends for some credibility, or perhaps looking for justification /shrug.
 
Like someone else said the OP escalated the incident to a life-threatening situation. What else is more to say? I wouldn't want to live in a society where every trigger-happy wacko can threaten me with a gun, end of story.

I'm one of those opinionated people that had a few fights with rightwing douchebags who chose to attack me because they didn't like what I said (they don't seem fond of my sarcasm and anti-religion stance) so I wouldn't particularly like if some of them had guns in their pockets. Call me crazy but I prefer living in a society that I don't have to worry if every wacko has a gun.
 
How hard is it if someone is tailing you aggressively to:

1.) Dial 9-11
2.) Tell them someone is following you and you *think* you saw a gun.
3.) Tell them where you are headed, and the activate the 9-11 GPS feature on your cell phone.
4.) Cops show up, pulls guy over, guy gets ticketed.

OMG that's so hard. However you have probably just pushed this guy into purchasing a gun, and he's still out there. Plus you may think that he won't follow any one else home, but then again that's a rational decision isn't it. This guy has just shown to be a barrel of fucking rationality hasn't he.
 
fortified_concept said:
Like someone else said the OP escalated the incident to a life-threatening situation. What else is more to say? I wouldn't want to live in a society where every trigger-happy wacko can threaten me with a gun, end of story.

I'm one of those opinionated people that had a few fights with rightwing douchebags who chose to attack me because they didn't like what I said
(they don't seem fond of my sarcasm and anti-religion stance) so I wouldn't particularly like if some of them had guns in their pockets. Call me crazy but I prefer living in a society that I don't have to worry if every wacko has a gun.

Was that before, or after you supported the people burning down car dealerships and banks in Greece?

Incidentally, you wonder how many of your wacko friends would go around destroying private property if they had to worry about the owner defending their property with extreme force.
 
Gaborn said:
Was that before, or after you supported the people burning down car dealerships and banks in Greece?

Incidentally, you wonder how many of your wacko friends would go around destroying private property if they had to worry about the owner defending their property with extreme force.

Wow, way to be off-topic and wrong. Congrats, oh great poster.
 
RedShift said:
You can determine that well in that kind of situation? Well enough to kill somebody? Not to mention that I can't imagine anything that'd make someone more likely to shoot than drawing a gun on them.

If somebody kicks down my front door while holding an axe and says, "I'm gonna kill you" I think it would be fairly easy to determine if I'm in danger or not. ;p
 
fortified_concept said:
Wow, way to be off-topic and wrong. Congrats, oh great poster.

Wait... you were the one that said you supported their actions even though you never took part. I can dig up the quotes if you wish. Besides, it's definitely on topic. Guns in the hands of private citizens are a deterrent to jumped up anarchists going around burning people's property simply because they don't agree with the government that won a fair election.
 
Gaborn said:
Wait... you were the one that said you supported their actions even though you never took part. I can dig up the quotes if you wish. Besides, it's definitely on topic. Guns in the hands of private citizens are a deterrent to jumped up anarchists going around burning people's property simply because they don't agree with the government that won a fair election.

First of all you genius, it's not the same understanding why the anarchists are doing what they're doing and actually being an anarchist who destroys property. I know you're not the smartest person in the forum but I'd expect you to understand that. Even if I justified in a way what the anarchists are doing you think it's wise for rightwingers to attack me with a gun?

And btw are you suggesting that the riot police or citizens should shoot people because they're destroying banks? You're more disturbed than I thought. :lol
 
If we're gonna start digging up posting histories, let's start with the OP;

Getting shot doesn't kill you instantly
I always wanted to make my own gun-related porn site. Girls getting boinked while shooting off .50cal rifles etc
Shame he didn't catch the person and made them eat lead
In fact it should be legal to hunt other humans
in high school we had orgies and the whole team would run a train with a few girls
It made me feel good inside to dominate another man with physical force.
I remember when I got dumped my first time. Rather than crying myself, I beat the shit out of the other guy in front of her and made HER cry.
i used a gun shaped dildo on my girlfriend
i wanna be a high school teacher, mainly so I can have sexual relations with my female students.

This is the guy allowed to carry guns. :O
 
fortified_concept said:
Like someone else said the OP escalated the incident to a life-threatening situation. What else is more to say? I wouldn't want to live in a society where every trigger-happy wacko can threaten me with a gun, end of story.

I'm one of those opinionated people that had a few fights with rightwing douchebags who chose to attack me because they didn't like what I said (they don't seem fond of my sarcasm and anti-religion stance) so I wouldn't particularly like if some of them had guns in their pockets. Call me crazy but I prefer living in a society that I don't have to worry if every wacko has a gun.

You sound insane. I've never in my life been attacked physically for my political views in this supposedly trigger happy gun totin' uncivilized society I live in.
 
Getting shot doesn't kill you instantly
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I always wanted to make my own gun-related porn site. Girls getting boinked while shooting off .50cal rifles etc
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Shame he didn't catch the person and made them eat lead
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In fact it should be legal to hunt other humans
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in high school we had orgies and the whole team would run a train with a few girls
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It made me feel good inside to dominate another man with physical force.
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I remember when I got dumped my first time. Rather than crying myself, I beat the shit out of the other guy in front of her and made HER cry.
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i used a gun shaped dildo on my girlfriend
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i wanna be a high school teacher, mainly so I can have sexual relations with my female students.

Oh shit :lol
 
comedy bomb said:
If we're gonna start digging up posting histories, let's start with the OP;

This is the guy allowed to carry guns. :O
What the fuck?! :lol

Best response in this thread x 1000.
 
fortified_concept said:
First of all you genius, it's not the same understanding why the anarchists are doing what they're doing and actually being an anarchist who destroys property. I know you're not the smartest person in the forum but I'd expect you to understand that. Even if I justified in a way what the anarchists are doing you think it's wise for rightwingers to attack me with a gun?

And btw are you suggesting that the riot police or citizens should shoot people because they're destroying banks? You're more disturbed than I thought. :lol

I never said it was. I mentioned that you supported people doing that, NEVER said you were participating in doing it. I presume you're not a native English speaker (If you grew up in Greece I'm guessing it's not your first language) so I'll guess you simply didn't notice the nuance there. And no, I don't think anybody should be attacking you with a gun simply for your political beliefs.

I do think though that property owners defending their property have EVERY right to defend it with force. When you own a shopping mall or a car dealership, etc. and you get your income from that, that's your livelihood. Burning that down is taking food from your children's mouths, it's lowering their quality of life. It may even economically ruin their lives. You bet you shoot the bastards trying to burn it down if the police aren't willing or able to stop them from doing it.
 
Flo_Evans said:
You sound insane. I've never in my life been attacked physically for my political views in this supposedly trigger happy gun totin' uncivilized society I live in.

That's because you're not as opinionated as I am. Believe it or not I'm actually more opinionated in real life than I am in this forum and I'm never afraid to express my opinions.
 
AmishNazi said:
What's funny??

Because according to this forum, OP obviously did something to deserve being followed home and planned to take him out. I like how the fact that this person went out of his way to follow OP home and apparently he did nothing wrong.

The quotes make OP seem like a gun nut, but if he was as wacko as you think he could've justifiably (not morally, but legally) shot him on his property. Yet, he didn't.
 
mernst23 said:
Because according to this forum, OP obviously did something to deserve being followed home and planned to take him out. I like how the fact that this person went out of his way to follow OP home and apparently he did nothing wrong.

The quotes make OP seem like a gun nut, but if he was as wacko as you think he could've justifiably (not morally, but legally) shot him on his property. Yet, he didn't.

I've only seen a few people insinuate that the OP did something to make the guy follow him home. Most people just think it was idiotic to pull a gun on the truck driver. I fall under the before cell phones it would of been justified, but with mobile 9-11 he should of called the cops and made them do their job.
 
AmishNazi said:
I've only seen a few people insinuate that the OP did something to make the guy follow him home. Most people just think it was idiotic to pull a gun on the truck driver. I fall under the before cell phones it would of been justified, but with mobile 9-11 he should of called the cops and made them do their job.

What if he didn't have his phone or it wasn't charged? Was he justified then? What if he was driving in a city that had a no cell phone while driving law? (Yea, i'm being absurd with that one, but still, it's not like no one else here is overreaching)
 
No cell phone or not charged I'd probably be OK with too. Just the way the original post was worded makes me think that he wanted to take the law into his own hand, but wanted to be totally justified to avoid penal ass raping for a year or two.
 
There sure are a lot of people making up completely hypothetical situations here because they are terrified of the fact that the presence of a gun kept someone from getting hurt.
 
Okin said:
There sure are a lot of people making up completely hypothetical situations here because they are terrified of the fact that the presence of a gun kept someone from getting hurt.

By that notion then if he pulled off all his clothes and started running at the guy and the guy ran away then a nude man kept someone from getting hurt. :lol
 
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