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Rock Band 2 IGN interview -- Timed exclusive for Xbox 360

Jtrizzy said:
Benjamin--yeah. I meant to quote the guy above you.
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See, Garnett was a contributing factor for me giving GHIII a shot and I was really burned by that game. Just not a fan of how Neversoft charted stuff at all. Music Generator could be amazing, but if it's not backed up by solid charts in the actual game, I can't really bring myself to invest in it.

And, also, there's really no way I can have two drum kits. I've made my Rock Band bed for better or worse.
 
DongHungLong said:
They've lost a bundle sell if there is more than a months difference in release time between the 360 and the PS3's. I bought GH3 and was happy with that until my cousin got Rock Band over Christmas. I've spent over $80 on songs for it, maybe more and had decided I was going to wait on buying the Rock Band bundle until 2 was out. But if Guitar Hero 4 is any count I won't wait for them if they want to be fucking gay and screw us over just because MS loves to toss money at people. Most likely won't buy a single piece of DLC from here on out either since it is like a dead investment until I find out more on the situation.
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I'm not sure this reaction is necessary here, and I'm usually one to bitch about MS getting timed exclusives. Can you really not wait another month or two for the game?

You would think it is a money hat, but I don't see that being that effective of one if the other is still going to make it in time for the Holiday season. Most people (who don't own RB1) will be getting this for Christmas or using money they got for Christmas to purchase it.

BenjaminBirdie said:
See, Garnett was a contributing factor for me giving GHIII a shot and I was really burned by that game. Just not a fan of how Neversoft charted stuff at all. Music Generator could be amazing, but if it's not backed up by solid charts in the actual game, I can't really bring myself to invest in it.

And, also, there's really no way I can have two drum kits. I've made my Rock Band bed for better or worse.
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Yeah I wouldn't spend that much money on the games personally, I'd have Rock Band now if I had an extra $175 or whatever it costs.. As far as the charting stuff goes, I don't know the games on that level of depth. All I noticed was that GHIII seemed a lot harder that II.
 
Yeah I just got RB last week, but it doesn't matter. I doubt the new drumkit is gonna be the best thing ever, I like the standard drumkit just fine. I'm just buying the game seperately, no biggy.
 
McBradders said:
I call this in to dispute.

On paper it sure seems it. Wireless. More realistic set up. But at the same time I dunno how many people really give a shit about a wireless object that's mostly static, and that drum set-up looks somewhat intimidating to have SIX things to hit, crossing arms etc. whereas the RB set is definitely much friendlier for casuals and people who just want to "hit shit".

Velocity sensing really matters very little in the grand scheme of following charts on a screen.
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It's 5 pads, one more than Rock Band. Are you really calling the intimidating card on this? Really? Really?
REALLY????? Man thats one of the most annoying "fads" to ever grace GAF.

Not to mention the velocity sensing is fairly instrumental if you're going to be making your own tracks.
 
DarkJC said:
It's 5 pads, one more than Rock Band. Are you really calling the intimidating card on this? Really? Really?
REALLY????? Man thats one of the most annoying "fads" to ever grace GAF.

Not to mention the velocity sensing is fairly instrumental if you're going to be making your own tracks.
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Everyone keeps forgetting RedOctane! They are the reason the GH drums will be better. (I'll have both, but RO are the masters, man!)
 
FF_VIII said:
Everyone keeps forgetting Red Octane! They are the reason the GH drums will be better. (I'll have both, but RO are the masters, man!)
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Yep.

RO's GH3 guitar was much better than the trash that was the RB guitar (whoever made that).
 
omg rite said:
Yep.

RO's GH3 guitar was much better than the trash that was the RB guitar (whoever made that).
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This this. Also I don't get why people say the Xplorer is better than the Les Paul, my Les Paul has been flawless and fixed one of the biggest issues with the Xplorer for me, the loud clicky buttons. Not only do I hate the strum bar on the RB guitar, but I never understood why they focused so much on a silent strum when their buttons are super loud.

On another note,

(I'll have both, but RO are the masters, man!)
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I really really don't want to get both, but I know I eventually will :(
 
It's funny you say that, because that was the one thing Garnett called into question. He was saying the game might be too hard core. I'm sitting there thinking "what kind of pussy shit is this? Isn't this guy the host of a video game pod cast made on Friday nights, and he's complaining about a game being too hard core?"

He did the same shit basically with MGS4. Seriously, what kind of audience does he think he's talking too? Waah I have to read the manual to learn CQC, Waah there are too many ways to know where my enemies are coming from. Grow a pair.
 
omg rite said:
Yep.

RO's GH3 guitar was much better than the trash that was the RB guitar (whoever made that).
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If the strum bar was better designed and not made in China, then I wouldn't have a preference. Hopefully they remedy the issues with the new Strat.
 
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Way to use a douchey model who's never held a guitar before...
 
As far as the guitar goes, when reading the previews for RB I was all about their guitar because of the silent strum. Then when I tried it at a friends house, I thought it was horrible. The buttons seemed really mushy to me.

Ideally I would like the GHIII guitar, just get rid of the clicking noise when you strum. It sucks if you want to play at a low volume and you hear the clicking over the music.
 
omg rite said:
.. why wouldn't you be able to get 2?
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ill probably end up importing it from US again, since im EURO, but ill get GT WT first and then RB2 some months later, if RB2 came in september for PS3 i would get that and GH WT In November (I assume GH releases this november?)

Anyways, i REALLY - really - hate timed exclusives.
 
Any other RB1 owners out there a little upset at the inevitable announcement of RB2? I knew it would come, but I never expected it just a year after the first. This combined with the crappy quality of the instruments and EA only honoring a 60 day warrenty makes me very wary about tossing down another $170 for some new instruments. I know I can just get the disc, but I'm already worried about the longevity of my current instruments.

I may not be cut out for music games, could be time to go back to the real thing.
 
DJ_Tet said:
Any other RB1 owners out there a little upset at the inevitable announcement of RB2? I knew it would come, but I never expected it just a year after the first. This combined with the crappy quality of the instruments and EA only honoring a 60 day warrenty makes me very wary about tossing down another $170 for some new instruments. I know I can just get the disc, but I'm already worried about the longevity of my current instruments.

I may not be cut out for music games, could be time to go back to the real thing.
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There's no way I'm buying new instruments. I'm perfectly fine with this.
 
I don't really play these games, but I love that there's so much competition. What's strange, is that if rumors are to be believed, there is a win button available for purchase by either company. I wonder if that will be an E3 announcement by someone.
 
DJ_Tet said:
Any other RB1 owners out there a little upset at the inevitable announcement of RB2? I knew it would come, but I never expected it just a year after the first. This combined with the crappy quality of the instruments and EA only honoring a 60 day warrenty makes me very wary about tossing down another $170 for some new instruments. I know I can just get the disc, but I'm already worried about the longevity of my current instruments.

I may not be cut out for music games, could be time to go back to the real thing.
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You didn't hear that they went back to no receipt requirement, did you?

Rock Band forums said:
***UPDATE TO WARRANTY PROGRAM – EA CUSTOMER SERVICE TO IMPLEMENT ON MONDAY, JUNE 30th***


JUNE 26, 2008: Great news! For a limited time only, we are honoring warranty requests past the official 60-day limit.

Our warranty policy since Rock Band’s launch in November has been to require proof of purchase within 60 days of the warranty claim. However, we decided (on our own and without any obligation) to allow our customers to take advantage of the EA warranty program even if they didn't have a receipt and even if they sent it to us after the 60-day period had expired. We did this to make sure that our customers had the best experience possible with Rock Band.

Over seven months later, we decided to no longer make exceptions to our warranty program. The reasons for this were (1) we have a great deal of confidence in our peripherals, (2) we believe we have a great warranty program in place and (3) we found that a large number of the reported problems--especially those after the 60 day period--were due to mistreatment of the equipment.

Many of you out there felt that the change regarding enforcement of our policy had come without enough notice and some of you had legitimate warranty claims that were impacted by our decision.

Harmonix and MTV Games have always, and will always, remain open to fan feedback about your experience with Rock Band. This feedback is crucial to our development, as it allows us to provide you with the ultimate rock experience and meet your needs as members of the Rock Band community. Thanks to your feedback, we have decided to extend our previous practice of not requiring a proof of purchase until October 1. 2008. This change will go into effect Monday, June 30th, 2008.

However, effective October 1, 2008, any customers who wish to take advantage of our warranty program will need to (1) provide a receipt and (2) report defects within the 60-day period. Please note that any products that have been misused, modded in any way or were broken or defective due to excessive wear and tear are not covered under the warranty at all and all other terms and conditions of the warranty program will be enforced. We hope that, with this advanced notice, you be well prepared for this change in practice as the fall nears. In the meantime, rock on!
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squicken said:
I don't really play these games, but I love that there's so much competition. What's strange, is that if rumors are to be believed, there is a win button available for purchase by either company. I wonder if that will be an E3 announcement by someone.
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Yes there is.

I was thinking about this on the way to work today. I would have thought aesthetically it might be more in line with Rock Band, but then Guitar Hero got Coldplay songs and all that went out the window.
 
DJ_Tet said:
Any other RB1 owners out there a little upset at the inevitable announcement of RB2? I knew it would come, but I never expected it just a year after the first. This combined with the crappy quality of the instruments and EA only honoring a 60 day warrenty makes me very wary about tossing down another $170 for some new instruments. I know I can just get the disc, but I'm already worried about the longevity of my current instruments.

I may not be cut out for music games, could be time to go back to the real thing.
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This announcement has convinced me to duck out the genre entirely until the dust settles. It's pretty obvious now why the first game was such a rush job, and I'm not going to support that any further.
 
squicken said:
I don't really play these games, but I love that there's so much competition. What's strange, is that if rumors are to be believed, there is a win button available for purchase by either company. I wonder if that will be an E3 announcement by someone.
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I don't get it, are we talking about the Beatles here?
 
DjangoReinhardt said:
This announcement has convinced me to duck out the genre entirely until the dust settles. It's pretty obvious now why the first game was such a rush job, and I'm not going to support that any further.
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Do you mean Rock Band? You're calling Rock Band a rush job?
What does that make the recent Guitar Hero games, abortions?
 
birdman said:
You didn't hear that they went back to no receipt requirement, did you?
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No, I didn't. This is great news and allows me to consider purchasing future dlc/sequel discs.

They need to make the hardware situation right for the people who enabled Rock Band 2 to even exist. My instruments thankfully do work (although I'm not a good enough drummer to really test my kit) but after one guitar replacement already and reading online, let's just say I'm skeptical that my substantial investment in this package will be worth it without buying at least one more guitar.

I just want to make sure I don't need to buy three more guitars.
 
This news is perfect for me: been playing a friend's 360 version with a group all summer, downloading DLC as I've went, so that assurance is, well, very reassuring for my purchase. It means I'll only be without Rock Band for a month and a half or so after he leaves and takes his instruments with him, so I've got no complaints.

And in terms of whether they're rushing to compete with Guitar Hero, it's pretty clear that this has been planned for a while. As someone who has perhaps zero interest in GHWT's music creation mode, it sounds like the tweaks Harmonix is making are what I wanted in jumping into the genre with more than just DLC.
 
As an American that purchased the 360 version of RB1 I will be there day 1 in Sept.

I still play RB1 everyday. That is like 7 and a half months of awesome. No other game has done that for me. Best investment ever.
 
blame space said:
That new Strat is pretty hot. Rosewood neck and sunburst finish FTW.

I don't know how people can prefer the GH guitars to the Rock Band Strat. Strumming just feels so much more natural and organic. I cannot stand the overbearing "click" of the GH guitars after spending a good amount of time with Rock Band.
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Yeah. I mainly play drums but I took guitar for a while and the strumming does feel much more natural on the RB guitar, too bad it breaks so easily...mine hardly works now. Well it works it just takes it a minute to warm up and function properly.



Edit: Jesus great news! I'm glad they're honoring the warranty!!! woot!! ima send back my guitar, too cool
 
I loved RB. Im pissed at the timed exclusivity but not too much. I wanna see if they are looking into what GHWT is doing, because Im really considering on buying that and skipping RB2.
 
You know what would be awesome. An adaptor for a real guitar that would allow it to interface with a console or pc. Then make some software that makes learning to play a real song like a game! I would be all over that. I always feel guilty playing RB when my real guitars sit unused and unlearned.
 
DarkJC said:
It's 5 pads, one more than Rock Band. Are you really calling the intimidating card on this? Really? Really?
REALLY????? Man thats one of the most annoying "fads" to ever grace GAF.

Not to mention the velocity sensing is fairly instrumental if you're going to be making your own tracks.
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5 pads and a kick = 6.

As for track creation, YMMV in terms of "value".
 
J-Rzez said:
If this was indeed a money hat, I'd be a little nerved if I was a 360 only owner. MS really should go more out of the way, throw more money at new IP's. Seriously, it's just Rockband, and there's another music game out there anyways in GH. They may have had a few exclusive new IP's, but seriously, they need to start putting their money into stuff like that.

I hope they have lots and lots of stuff to show off at E3 to make up for this. Plus, these things aren't exactly causing much goodwill with developers anymore this gen taking the cash.
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You are amazing at finding the negative in anything related to the 360. We don't do yet if this is a money hat or a development issue, but even if it was, throwing a little bit of money at Harmonix/EA/MTV has absolutely nothing to do with putting a team together and putting together a team. The two are not mutually exclusive, and you really don't have enough information to make this ridiculous claim.
 
Amazing news. Going to be game of forever, and destroy GHWT. It's launching with 300 songs!

I think they're doing new drum sets for the game, and new guitars since there were complaints about the old ones, but they arent needed to play it at all. They're just there if you want to spend the extra money.

I'm going to get the Mad Catz set when it comes out in August, probably.
 
I would expect the guitar to be no different then the New Wireless ones. The 360 wireless that came out in April have been perfect for me. No strum bar misses and batteries last forever.

I have the same batteries that I put in the last week of April and they still are half full according to the MS Dashboard. That is after playing EVERYDAY.
 
PS3 owners better not have to wait more than a month or two. I only bought RB on PS3 for the wireless guitar, I'm really regretting it now.
 
As a PS3 Rock Band owner, this timed exclusivity shit pisses me off greatly. As if that version didn't get the shaft enough as is, this is a nice kick in the balls.
 
FUCK YOU HARMONIX/MTV/EA

Why the hell have I bought over a hundred bucks of dlc on the PS3 and an extra PS3 guitar just to be treated like a second class citizen?

Time to sell it all off.
 
bearcatjosh said:
FUCK YOU HARMONIX/MTV/EA

Why the hell have I bought over a hundred bucks of dlc on the PS3 and an extra PS3 guitar just to be treated like a second class citizen?

Time to sell it all off.
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Too bad you really can't sell off your DLC. Besides, it's probably only a couple month difference.
 
bearcatjosh said:
FUCK YOU HARMONIX/MTV/EA

Why the hell have I bought over a hundred bucks of dlc on the PS3 and an extra PS3 guitar just to be treated like a second class citizen?

Time to sell it all off.
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Blame Sony for not helping them out with the cross compatible DLC more.
 
birdman said:
Too bad you really can't sell off your DLC. Besides, it's probably only a couple month difference.
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I know. I meant the instruments and the game.

I'm just going to buy it for my 360 and wonder why I bother buying any 3rd party game for the PS3.
 
DJ_Tet said:
Any other RB1 owners out there a little upset at the inevitable announcement of RB2? I knew it would come, but I never expected it just a year after the first. This combined with the crappy quality of the instruments and EA only honoring a 60 day warrenty makes me very wary about tossing down another $170 for some new instruments. I know I can just get the disc, but I'm already worried about the longevity of my current instruments.

I may not be cut out for music games, could be time to go back to the real thing.
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Uh, they're honoring all warranties until October regardless of purchase date...

HMXsean said:
Harmonix and MTV Games have always, and will always, remain open to fan feedback about your experience with Rock Band. This feedback is crucial to our development, as it allows us to provide you with the ultimate rock experience and meet your needs as members of the Rock Band community. Thanks to your feedback, we have decided to extend our previous practice of not requiring a proof of purchase until October 1. 2008. This change will go into effect Monday, June 30th, 2008.
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Edit: Beaten.

Also, I can't believe the bitching from some of you PS3 owners. You would stop playing a game entirely because your friends are getting the sequel before you are? What a joke. You'll still get to play it. I'd hate to think what you'd be like if you lived in Europe. You guys wouldn't end up buying any games just because they came out in America earlier!

And yes, that is a valid argument, because the early-release of the 360 version probably has more to do with the fact that the 360 has always been the lead platform for the game. Games needs to be localized for Europe, so in essence, America is the "lead country" for the game, with Europe following once the game has been converted for it. It's very similar to developing for System A and then porting to System B.
 
bearcatjosh said:
FUCK YOU HARMONIX/MTV/EA

Why the hell have I bought over a hundred bucks of dlc on the PS3 and an extra PS3 guitar just to be treated like a second class citizen?

Time to sell it all off.
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Should have got the 360 version! :P
 
omg rite said:
Should have got the 360 version! :P
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I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT I HATE MOST RIGHT NOW! My triple or this announcement.

How do I contact Harmonix or EA or MTV Games (the horror) ?
Has anyone talked about this yet?
 
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