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Rock Band 2 IGN interview -- Timed exclusive for Xbox 360

bearcatjosh said:
I know. I meant the instruments and the game.

I'm just going to buy it for my 360 and wonder why I bother buying any 3rd party game for the PS3.
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So instead of just waiting a little longer and only paying $60 for the game, you want to sell it all off for less than what you paid for, buy the whole set again for $170 and then re-buy some of the DLC you bought for the PS3?
 
StrikerObi said:
Uh, they're honoring all warranties until October regardless of purchase date...
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Yep, already been covered. Not sure how I missed that, actually.

But still, the point was that EA was getting ready to screw early adopters. I'm weary.
 
Honestly, PS3 owners should have known a while ago what they were getting into in terms of 3rd parties.

Multiplatform games will almost always be priority on 360. You know that by now.
 
Not really sure what "game features" will make me hot enough to want RB2, but it'll come down to the set list.

Also, with regard to Drain You, RB2 launch really would be a perfect marketing opportunity to release the full nevermind album... just say'n

Also, this is going to shit all over GHWT.. too bad for all the folks with the wrong console.
 
birdman said:
So instead of just waiting a little longer and only paying $60 for the game, you want to sell it all off for less than what you paid for, buy the whole set again for $170 and then re-buy some of the DLC you bought for the PS3?
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I'm trying to think of the best way to give Harmonix/EA/MTV games the finger.

I don't want to give myself the finger, though. You're right.
Besides, everyone behind Rock Band 2 has already given me the finger.
 
Metalmurphy said:
Will there any point for this to those who already have 1 and access to the DLC?
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One would imagine at E3 they will reveal the new features that warrant a sequel, along with the songs on disc that will be exclusive to the RB2 disc.
 
bearcatjosh said:
I just never thought they would do this to the loyal PS3 fans.
It's absolutely fucking inexcusable.
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It's totally excusable. I'm going to fall back on my America/Europe analogy again. Europe gets games after America all the time and it's totally excusable because it takes time to convert games for European systems (language, PAL, etc). It also takes time to convert a game from the lead platform to other platforms. The 360 was the lead platform for Rock Band. If the game is done and ready to ship on the lead platform, why hold it for a month or two while they are busy porting it to the PS3? Because it would be more "fair?"

If this is about fairness and a matter of principal, why aren't you bitching about the Wii version taking forever to come out? Should Harmonix have waited until the Wii version was done to release all the versions simultaneously? It's foolish to think so. As far as Harmonix is concerned, if it is done and ready to ship on the 360 it is to their advantage to start shipping right away so they can sell it and not get lost in the rush of holiday titles.
 
*rolls eyes*

PS3 fans, you honestly need to just chill the fuck out. Get used to it: it takes a back seat. Christ, I'm a Wii fan, how the fuck do you think I feel?

Count your blessings, asshats.
 
Metalmurphy said:
Will there any point for this to those who already have 1 and access to the DLC?
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We don't know most the new features yet, but you can expect things such as online Band World Tour. Also, I doubt they'd release the songs on the RB2 disc as DLC for Rock Band 1. We'll learn more at E3.
 
BrandNew said:
*rolls eyes*

PS3 fans, you honestly need to just chill the fuck out. Get used to it: it takes a back seat. Christ, I'm a Wii fan, how the fuck do you think I feel?

Count your blessings, asshats.
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Some of us are. It's just the one's that don't are more vocal about it.
 
Struct09 said:
We don't know most the new features yet, but you can expect things such as online Band World Tour. Also, I doubt they'd release the songs on the RB2 disc as DLC for Rock Band 1. We'll learn more at E3.
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Well that would suck :S With all that talk about cross compatible DLC and all... !!!

Booo!
 
BrandNew said:
*rolls eyes*

PS3 fans, you honestly need to just chill the fuck out. Get used to it: it takes a back seat. Christ, I'm a Wii fan, how the fuck do you think I feel?

Count your blessings, asshats.
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What the fuck? Unless you work for Harmonix I don't really care to hear this rhetoric of "it takes a back seat."

So disappointing from someone with an awesome s/n.

Off topic, are you a fan of the band? Hopefully we'll get some Brand New songs in the new Rock Band.

I can feel myself getting less angry as I type about Brand New, oh well.
 
Struct09 said:
We don't know most the new features yet, but you can expect things such as online Band World Tour. Also, I doubt they'd release the songs on the RB2 disc as DLC for Rock Band 1. We'll learn more at E3.
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Custom setlists. This alone is worth at least $10 to me. Add in all the songs that will be on the disc (they say the largest play-list ever so it should be over 60 songs at least) and it will be worth the cost. Just think of it as buying DLC in bulk.

birdman said:
Some of us are. It's just the one's that don't are more vocal about it.
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Good point. You shouldn't all be lumped together. There are plenty of nice fans of every console on this board, but nobody ever hears anything from them because of the shouting from the others.
 
StrikerObi said:
It's totally excusable. I'm going to fall back on my America/Europe analogy again. Europe gets games after America all the time and it's totally excusable because it takes time to convert games for European systems (language, PAL, etc). It also takes time to convert a game from the lead platform to other platforms. The 360 was the lead platform for Rock Band. If the game is done and ready to ship on the lead platform, why hold it for a month or two while they are busy porting it to the PS3? Because it would be more "fair?"
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Obviously, this all depends on whether it is due to development or due to a hat arriving with money. The moneyhat is more likely as they excepted on in Europe, but it's possible to be development as they are working quickly to get a version out before GHWT.
 
They need to get their best selling version out ASAP to keep Guitar Hero 4 at bay. It isn't a matter of screwing over PS3 owners. I'm sure the original plan was a release on the same day in November/late October. And then Guitar Hero 4 showed up. They are going to get the version with the biggest install base out the door to get a jump on Activision.


Us PS3 owners will have to wait probably a month, who knows maybe things will change and it will be a matter of a few weeks.
 
Im just glad RB2 plays all the DLC from RB1 with added features, this alone warrants the purchase of the disc with new tracks and interface.
 
I won't be buying the full package again. The guitar looks exactly the same but with sunburst. I will buy a new drumset because in theory they would have improved it over the current one and ANY ounce of improvement is going to be better than the current drum set. Hope they took a que from the GH one.
 
Hmm... This sounds like a really bad move from EA/MTV/Harmonix to allow time exclusive for a specific platform. They are pretty much telling the fans to f' off and play GHWT instead. The money they get out of the deal is better worth it, otherwise, I think they are just digging their own grave for the franchise at this point.
 
RuGalz said:
Hmm... This sounds like a really bad move from EA/MTV/Harmonix to allow time exclusive for a specific platform. They are pretty much telling the fans to f' off and play GHWT instead. The money they get out of the deal is better worth it, otherwise, I think they are just digging their own grave for the franchise at this point.
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Except they're not doing that at all.
 
bearcatjosh said:
What the fuck? Unless you work for Harmonix I don't really care to hear this rhetoric of "it takes a back seat."

So disappointing from someone with an awesome s/n.

Off topic, are you a fan of the band? Hopefully we'll get some Brand New songs in the new Rock Band.

I can feel myself getting less angry as I type about Brand New, oh well.
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I like them, but I haven't really listened to them much since their last album. Just waiting for anything new from them.

And I'm sorry, but at least you're getting the game. This year. When it all comes down to it, you're getting the freakin' game. Stop worrying about console politics and sales data, YOU'RE GETTING THE GAME.
 
JonathanEx said:
Obviously, this all depends on whether it is due to development or due to a hat arriving with money. The moneyhat is more likely as they excepted on in Europe, but it's possible to be development as they are working quickly to get a version out before GHWT.
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It's honestly probably a combination of all three of these. Microsoft has been very helpful to Harmonix this whole time, they even demoed Rock Band at their own E3 presser last year. There's obviously some money changing hands.

I wonder why these same people don't bitch when a movie is on HBO before it is on NBC. That's a "moneyhat" too (HBO is paying for limited airing exclusivity) but it's totally acceptable where as Microsoft paying Harmonix for limited exclusivity of Rock Band 2 is somehow totally wrong. It's fun to apply morals subjectively!
 
RuGalz said:
Hmm... This sounds like a really bad move from EA/MTV/Harmonix to allow time exclusive for a specific platform. They are pretty much telling the fans to f' off and play GHWT instead. The money they get out of the deal is better worth it, otherwise, I think they are just digging their own grave for the franchise at this point.
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Well put.
 
Well I'm still enjoying Rock Band PS3, I play it all the time. I'm not even ready for Rock Band 2. I think, however, that they are total fools to do an exclusive stuff at all, even if timed. It pisses off the hardcore. It makes it all the more likely that I'll sell Rock Band and pick up Guitar Hero 4. If they're going to treat us like second class citizens of their universe, I'll go to the platform that treats me better and has cymbals. :D

I think it's such a dumb move on their part.
 
StrikerObi said:
It's honestly probably a combination of all three of these. Microsoft has been very helpful to Harmonix this whole time, they even demoed Rock Band at their own E3 presser last year. There's obviously some money changing hands.

I wonder why these same people don't bitch when a movie is on HBO before it is on NBC. That's a "moneyhat" too (HBO is paying for limited airing exclusivity) but it's totally acceptable where as Microsoft paying Harmonix for limited exclusivity of Rock Band 2 is somehow totally wrong. It's fun to apply morals subjectively!
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This is a horrible comparison.

It costs $5 to add HBO to most cable subscriptions (mine at least...I have it). So that's all one would have to do. It's not as if the cable subscriber would have to pay $170 to watch the movie on HBO two months earlier.
 
RuGalz said:
Hmm... This sounds like a really bad move from EA/MTV/Harmonix to allow time exclusive for a specific platform. They are pretty much telling the fans to f' off and play GHWT instead. The money they get out of the deal is better worth it, otherwise, I think they are just digging their own grave for the franchise at this point.
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What if their timed exclusive puts the 360 version out in September and the PS3 version out in Mid-October, before GH:WT? I'm sure they're going to try their best to get both versions out before October 27th. But if they can't, why should they sit on the version that's done, as others have said.
 
drakesfortune said:
It pisses off the hardcore.
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This is my favorite argument ever. There's no proof to back it up. Even if it was true, I doubt a few hundred or even a thousand units not sold to pissed off Gaffers is going to come close to affecting their bottom line.
 
What I gathered from the interview was that the cross-compatibility issue is the main reason that its ready for Xbox 360 before PS3, I'd be suprised if this exclusive was paid for.
 
Custom setlists would be HUGE!! It sucks getting kicked back into the song lists after each and every song especially with a whole band playing.
 
bearcatjosh said:
This is a horrible comparison.

It costs $5 to add HBO to most cable subscriptions (mine at least...I have it). So that's all one would have to do. It's not as if the cable subscriber would have to pay $170 to watch the movie on HBO two months earlier.
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NBC is a brodcast network. You don't need to have cable to watch NBC. You would have to pay for cable and HBO on top of that which is a lot more than $5 total.

Also, your statement totally excludes the point that my statement was based on moral ground. Are you saying it's OK to bend your morals so long as it only costs $5 and not $170?
 
StrikerObi said:
NBC is a brodcast network. You don't need to have cable to watch NBC. You would have to pay for cable and HBO on top of that which is a lot more than $5 total.

This totally excludes the point that my statement was based on moral ground. Are you saying it's OK to bend your morals so long as it only costs $5 and not $170?
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No, I'm not saying that. I'm only saying that it wouldn't be as great of an adjustment to make.

Also, most people have cable.

Also, I don't see why I have to argue with you. Like I said earlier, unless you work for Harmonix I have no beef with you.
 
All I really want is my character should be able to play whatever instrement they want. None of this locked on guitar forever shit.
 
StrikerObi said:
It's totally excusable. I'm going to fall back on my America/Europe analogy again. Europe gets games after America all the time and it's totally excusable because it takes time to convert games for European systems (language, PAL, etc). It also takes time to convert a game from the lead platform to other platforms. The 360 was the lead platform for Rock Band. If the game is done and ready to ship on the lead platform, why hold it for a month or two while they are busy porting it to the PS3? Because it would be more "fair?"
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Seriously, all the people who are complaining about "timed exclusive" with zero evidence are being completely irrational.
 
It makes no sense for EA/MTV to allow a timed exclusive in this case. If both games were ready to be launched, they would be. I'm assuming that PSN doesnt have the capability to allow two games to use the same DLC yet or something.
 
RuGalz said:
Hmm... This sounds like a really bad move from EA/MTV/Harmonix to allow time exclusive for a specific platform. They are pretty much telling the fans to f' off and play GHWT instead. The money they get out of the deal is better worth it, otherwise, I think they are just digging their own grave for the franchise at this point.
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Which tends to make my explanation all the more likely.
 
dave is ok said:
It makes no sense for EA/MTV to allow a timed exclusive in this case. If both games were ready to be launched, they would be. I'm assuming that PSN doesnt have the capability to allow two games to use the same DLC yet or something.
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Probably so.
I've learned my lesson about buying 3rd party PS3 games. Sheesh.
 
Seems so soon after the UK delay for one but so happy they arn't staggering it.
They still really need to look at the pricing.

Shame about the other platforms tho but day 1 for me.

Hope they add some great features and surprises, I'm tied into Rock Band now the only thing that will make me make the swtich is the Metallica World Tour version rumoured.
 
Classic_Gs said:
A little soon for a sequel no?
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Depends on what the sequel is.

If they backport some of the software fixes (logically they would), offer a compelling on-disc lineup (120 song rumor?), make DLC compatible with both (confirmed), it doesn't strike me as a big deal.

My preference would be that they emphasize Rock Band as a platform as much as possible. Hopefully some songs from the new disc would be available as DLC for people on RB1, and likewise the other way around, so that fans aren't forced to buy multiple installments just to get the goods.
 
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