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Romney: "What we feared is happening...the administration has made things worse"
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Romney is a moron when it comes to the economy. Obamacare was his best idea ever and that's behind him.
The view of most people commenting regarding Obama and the constitution is mind boggling.
The man who wrote a fictitious budget proposal?
That second amendment is sure going strong! Thanks, Obama.
Help me understand. What do you mean by that?
The only point I can see is LGBT rights not passing as well as they have under Obama's administration.
What else?
Corporations still have everything in their ways.
CHEEZMO
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this list is much better than mine
ClassyPenguin
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CHEEZMO;75090043 said:
And wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act.
Such heroes.
Reagan was about to work with O'Neil. Clinton with Gingrich. Obama goes off to make speeches.
As much as I dislike some of Obama's policies, he's much better than Romney and the culture of factual illiteracy. Am I supposed to be swayed by lies? It's worse? Unemployment is down, stock market is up. Don't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Yeah, if there's one thing you can say about Obama, it's that he never pursued compromise to the point it hamstrung him. Nope, that definitely never happened.
JesseEwiak
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All those crazy abortion laws being passed in Republican dominated states? They'd be coming nationwide.
Stupid tax cuts and spending cuts that make the sequestration look like the stimulus? Passed in the first 100 days.
Obamacare? Strangled in the crib. Medicare? Sold off to private companies - er, reformed to become premium support.
The federal judgeship? Filled with loons that think Clarence Thomas is a genius and/or are just hacks for corporate power (see John Roberts.)
That's just a few things I could think off on the top of my head. That doesn't even getting into the further gutting of regulatory agencies.
Devolution
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Romney would have been fiscally worse, we'd be even farther away from a single payer option, you would have conservative justice appointments to the supreme court, gay marriage would have contention from the feds, drugs too and Roe v Wade would be targeted.
No thank you.
eBay Huckster
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Yeah, it's almost like political polarization hadn't reached its 2000s record-highs during the Reagan and Clinton administration or something:
No, clearly this is Obama's fault.
That's because we had a functional Congress in those instances. Obama has tried to make deals with the House only to have them screw him at every turn. Man's done a lot bad, but lets not make shit up to add to it.
BertramCooper
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The ACA would be murdered in its crib, for starters.
Devastating cuts to the social safety net.
More tax cuts for "job creators."
Abortion hijinks.
Et cetera, et cetera.
If you didn't vote in 2010, this is your fault. This is on you. Congratulations. You gave us this shitty, ineffective, goddawful House of Representatives. You don't get to complain about the ineffectualness of government.
Also, fuck you, Mitt Romney. Go back to your mansion in La Jolla and yelling at some kids skateboarding down your street.
Also, fuck you, Mitt Romney. Go back to your mansion in La Jolla and yelling at some kids skateboarding down your street.
It's just so absurd when you look at economic indicators over Obama's presidency. We hit rock bottom just after he started and everything is way improved. Stock indices are over 2X when he started. And they still act like it's February 2009.
the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments are surely dead. 2 nd is under attack, for sure.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805
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Check out what's going on in North Carolina.
Republicans cannot even decide what to do with themselves, their party is fracturing and cannot compromise on any issue. There is no middle ground for tea-party.
Completely different than Reagan and Clinton with wayyyyy more moderate Congresses.
I don't have $2,000 in my wallet and a new car in my garage, so fuck you, Obama economy.
JesseEwiak
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The truth is, even if the GOP somehow wins the Senate in 2014, unemployment is likely to be down to about 6.5% by time the 2016 election rolls around at a minimum just due to the business cycle.
That's one important reason that Romney lost. Because if we'd have the same recovery with Romney, even the moderate Keynesian economics that Obama used would've been put it into the trash heap for another generation and we'd get years of claims that, "Romney fixed what Obama couldn't!"
What's going on in NC? I'm out of the loop, but I do know what's going on with Texas GOP trying to throw away women's reproductive rights because sky daddy.
They still passed regardless who was president.
Obama is cutting taxes for corporations.
Obama's Affordable Care and Health Act still needs a reform, but Congress is not willing to make changes. Obama did touch on this in his election.
DryvBy
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Ok Batman, but look. Outside of your ideology that is completely made up because you want to believe that's what rights are, you have nothing. I have every right to vote about these clowns that Democrats and Republicans vote in.
Please, show me something that says the definition of rights and where that states that someone that doesn't partake in the Super Bowl voting antics every 4 years doesn't have the right to complain.
Lol, people.
Basically that, only worse. They're making South Carolina, horse-fucking, Appalachian trail hiking, South Carolina look good.
I say this because you've put in a lot of effort to complain but apparently couldn't be bothered to take 30 minutes out of one day to go and vote. It's not a hard thing and you didn't even need to vote for Obama or Romney. I have no respect for any of your complaints because you couldn't even be bothered to go and vote for the mole people who live under New York City. You couldn't be bothered to look at the other 6 or 7 people running and vote for one of them either, that's lazy. You had to agree with one of them. Decisions get made by those who show up, you don't show up I don't care about what you think and neither should anyone else. It's that simple.
JesseEwiak
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There's a difference between a corporate tax reform, where the statutory rate would be lowered, but loopholes would be eliminated, so the government actually gets more revenues.
Yes, the ACA needs to be "reformed" to be better, not killed in the crib.
RustyNails
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You can blame the Supreme Court for the 5th amendment shit. Obama didn't put the justices on the bench who fucked that one.
Devolution
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I don't think you understand how important supreme court justice appointments are. Why do you think Scalia is the worst? Saying both presidents would have the same outcome is ignorant.
I never said anything about supreme court justices.
The poors just don't know what's good for them!
JesseEwiak
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Here's a nice primer for those unaware - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/opinion/the-decline-of-north-carolina.html
Devolution
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Your original statement was the outcome would have been the same. It's patently false.
Oh man. You really should research the clusterfuck that is that state now.
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Giant Panda
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The 2nd amendment is doing fine, it is not even under attack unlike the 4th.
RustyNails
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He defends it continuously though, so that makes him guilty in my eyes.
The 4th isn't under attack, it's been defeated, the 2nd is under attack in the sense of it's not dead yet but there have been bills trying to defeat it.
whos list is this for?
eBay Huckster
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He can also blame John Adams for the Fourth Amendment constantly being undermined for the last 215 years.
"Reasons why Ron Paul and his Carpetbagging Son are Horrifyingly Bad"
Is there something I can read about the alternative universe if Romney were elected?
Seriously. That claim is laughable.
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Thanks, I was looking for that.
Hellraizah
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CHEEZMO;75090043 said:
So, it's mostly about feelings. I see.
The Faceless Master
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he should name the things that are actually worse because of the administration... like Obama instituting 'no snitching' rules.
there's some stuff that's also worse and it's totally not his fault, like the ridiculous assault on Women's rights.
there's some stuff that's also worse and it's totally not his fault, like the ridiculous assault on Women's rights.
Feelings? No. The economic understanding they display is objectively wrong.
Can you cite these laws?
Yeah, it's almost like political polarization hadn't reached its 2000s record-highs during the Reagan and Clinton administration or something:
No, clearly this is Obama's fault.
By your own chart it was a widening gap back during those administrations. And they were still able to get things done.
Austrian Economics outright rejects empiricism, you could literally prove them wrong with hard facts and that wouldn't change anything. It's a religion, an economic religion. That's scary as hell.
JesseEwiak
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Let me guess. White? Male? Under 40? Well off enough to pudder around on the Internet for long stretches of the day?
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