DenchDeckard
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Chasing the god of war/ horizon game play...probs going full on Sony exclusives rule book...
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Rumor: Gears 6 likely to be open world?
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S0ULZB0URNE
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They practiced open world in parts of part 5.
I trust The Coalition so am looking forward to this.
I trust The Coalition so am looking forward to this.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I'm not sure about it. They should either go full on survival horror or focus or more bombastic, almost non-stop action, like in the new Warhammer game.
I don't think open world is a good fit for this type of game. We'll see.
I don't think open world is a good fit for this type of game. We'll see.
JerryinSoCal
Member
Gears needs an overhaul, Gears 5 was by far the worst in the series IMO. I'd love something bigger in scale, get away from the whack-a-mole gameplay loop and give us a full war. I'd like them to reboot back to the wars that were going on before Emergence day and then go on from there. The barista in battle armor sucked as the new lead character IMO and she doesn't feel any different to play than any of the men, she's not fast or have any other kind of move. She's a different skin on the same set of moves that we've had for two console generations now.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Wasnt Gears 5 semi-open-world, at least that snow and desert level? I hated it, just pointlessly driving around to be able to finally get off somewhere.
Negotiator101
Member
Yes let the Coalition make their own version of Gears not a copy of the originals. Revamp everything, controls, enemies etc. Open world 4 player co-op oh yeah, Coalition are tech wizards and with Unreal 5 this could be an exceptional looking game.
Slicker than your average
Banned
Gears 3 was peak gears . 4 was an attempt to recreate 1 and 5 was trash chasing open world trends.
Also not sure why they rebranded it from gears of war to gears. Gears as name sucks.
It looks like the new space marine with coop will capture that gears 3 magic.
Also not sure why they rebranded it from gears of war to gears. Gears as name sucks.
It looks like the new space marine with coop will capture that gears 3 magic.
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
Can't save SP with those characters anyway. Give us a prequel about Aspho Fields or something.
Drizzlehell
Banned
Well, they officially ran out of ideas.
Not that they had any decent ideas with the last two games but going open world has to be one of the most cliched and boring ways that you could "evolve" a franchise that was previously known for its linear campaign structure.
Just stop making every goddamned game open world. Nobody who's even remotely interested in this series wants this.
Not that they had any decent ideas with the last two games but going open world has to be one of the most cliched and boring ways that you could "evolve" a franchise that was previously known for its linear campaign structure.
Just stop making every goddamned game open world. Nobody who's even remotely interested in this series wants this.
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Negotiator101
Member
Are you expecting a game designed around an open world concept to be just like the sections in Gears 5? Those were just used as a way to get from one location to another using the glider thing. Obviously if they've set out to make an open world from the beginning it's going to be a world of difference, like actually having things to do.
If they actually adapt the controls and revamp the gameplay (nor just a cover shooter) then it can work. Microsoft are really starting to let they're Studios spread there wings now. The last showcase showed some really impressive stuff, look at the new Inxile game, a small team producing that is crazy.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
Not sure how would the full blown open world work for Gears.
JerryinSoCal
Member
The issue with that was there was nothing in that "open world" it was just a place for them to talk between levels. If they are going open world they need to change the formula completely and make it more of an action game and less of a cover shooter gameplay loop.
Orbital2060
Member
Open world with some of the awesome vehicles they got from earlier games. Bikes or some crazy ass tank you can drive around in. Wouldnt have to be roadie runninh all over the place. I dont know. Im psyched for more Gears, though. Hivebusters was really good. But very linear Gears 2-style.
KaiserBecks
Member
The open areas were the worst part of Gears 5, I don't see how open world would make sense or how they could pull that off.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
They should make Gears 6 linear, so it sells 7 million copies. Then we can hear the same people complain about why the Gears franchise went into hibernation 10 years from now.
Open world direction is common sense.
Open world direction is common sense.
This is the case for most open worlds. Wasting time between the core gameplay you actually came for.
But a lot of gamers love having their time wasted and looking at assets. Also pretending they feel āimmersedā.
What gameplay purpose would it serve? What part of the core GOW gameplay loop would it improve?
StueyDuck
Member
i'll stick to my guns and wish that Gears went full Resi Survival horror and ditched the current story line.
openworld sounds terrible but it's also from random person #4345 on the internet so i doubt there's any weight behind it, but i do see those wide linear sections from 5 (which were bland) making a comeback
openworld sounds terrible but it's also from random person #4345 on the internet so i doubt there's any weight behind it, but i do see those wide linear sections from 5 (which were bland) making a comeback
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It would give players more meaningful, interesting, and fun choices to make during gameplay. The public overwhelmingly prefers open world game design.
Linear is dying for a reason.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I haven't played a GoW game since the 1st one. Never tried any of the others so I don't know where it's at. I guess I'm open to whatever they want to try. The series needs something. I would guess this is similar to the wide linear levels in Uncharted 4 or something where you use vehicles, but who knows.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
UE5 is made for openworld so no surprise. It could be good but Im not bothered with the new trilogy. Fuck that bitch.
JerryinSoCal
Member
It would get rid of it which is what's holding it back now. They talked about making a big change for the last game, all they did was make the character we control female and added a sled lol. They need something that makes it more like an actual war, big open battles with vehicles etc imo. I mean something large in scale too not a couple of tanks that just show up over and over again. If it were up to me they'd let the IP rest a while and maybe do a Gears RTS along the lines of Halo Wars and then bring the mainline series back two years later with a new crew and story and a lot more variety in the gameplay. I loved the first 3 games, after those though it's just gone downhill.
This is not a description of open world games that I recognise, suffice to say.
This sounds like something somebody hyping open worlds would have written like 20 years ago, before we had a glut of them and saw how empty those fantasies were.
King Dazzar
Member
I love open world games. But I just don't think it fits the Gears gameplay. It relies on set piece focused & cover structured environments for the gameplay to work. This is why in 5 all the open world parts were just a shallow travel section to the next pre-arranged, structured engagement.
I think it would be good to have some kind of design where by you choose what order to do things in. With some deeper RPG elements.
I think it would be good to have some kind of design where by you choose what order to do things in. With some deeper RPG elements.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The market doesn't lie. Linear is struggling for a reason.
TheDreadLord
Member
I guess that an open world that acts as a hub for the game sections do work with Gears. I just wish that they include more things going on in it. Gear has such a cool background story and they do very little to expand it.
xrnzaaas
Member
That's actually a big problem. We're talking about a series that basically created and popularized cover shooters subgenre and now the mechanic would have to be marginalized to make room for openworld gameplay.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I actually think Halo's campaign works pretty well. It does it better than the Ubisoft games I've played do (faint praise), but fundamentally open world is, until someone does it better, going to end up with lots of mini objectives dotted around a map, and that's the bit I don't really get.
When you get to the mission areas and you end up being funnelled through an area or working through the floors of a building then the open world part doesn't matter anymore, and those are the best bits. There are some areas that play exactly like the larger areas that Halo is synonymous with too, but while the world is just the other side of the wall, why does this matter?
I think the Coalition have fairly consistently displayed passion for and understanding of their franchise so I wouldn't rush to condemn this immediately (not least because it's a rumour!) And the idea of an open world where fresh emergence holes appear and where tunnels can take you away from the overworld or you can be called in by the COG to drill down means plenty of scope for self contained areas.
But as with Gears 5, if it's just a action scenes separated by piloting a skiff across a frozen lake, then I'm not sure if that's just adding something that isn't really adding much to the gameplay that people actually want.
There's of course the chance that they do something like Botw/TOTK did, which I know some people here really dislike, where being in the world is part of the experience, but I think that's one of the few games that really 100% benefits from an open world. I can't see the Fenix family stopping to chat about a sign that won't stay up either.
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Halo campaigns from the good ones are more than pretty good tho...
Yeah I often see a move to an open world in a series as the opposite of what it is presented as by the developers and then later gamers.
Which is to say it is presented as clearly and undeniably an improvement or an āevolutionā (hate modern common usage of that word) of the series.
Often I see it as the developers declaring that theyāre all out of ideas on how to improve the gameplay but that theyāre aware that pushing into a grossly oversized world will garner a lot of attention and focus on, well, a big map with lots of assets.
They know that making it look very different and play different will grab enough attention to disguise that itās not actually better to play or perhaps actually worse to play.
On the last point, it will certainly waste more of your time with low-gameplay, low-interaction travelling throughout the game world. Youāll spent more time kept away from the gameplay that you actually want, purely because you need to run or drive around looking for it.
This is, uh, progress. Evolution.
I donāt. The open world added nothing (except busywork), but took plenty away.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Salient points, I often wonder why people talk about map size as if it's an accolade. I don't really care about how long it'll take me to walk across it from point of interest to point of interest.
Badlucktroll
Member
I canāt picture those big bulky characters running around in a huge open world. Maybe it they use that sled thingā¦