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[Justified]

Apparently they're really popular on Amazon's listings.

Speaking of, kinda off but on topic. With their rise in popularity, the scammers are coming out 3rd Party selling on Amazon

http://www.game-debate.com/news/233...rons-as-amd-ryzen-cpus-via-amazon-marketplace

 

[Deleted member 325805]

What's the deal with Ryzen scaring Intel? I looked at some benchmarks and it seemed that Intel won in almost every game apart from that tech demo made for AMD GPUs.

 

[Zojirushi]

But lower core clocks? I dunno man...

 

[Timu]

This is great news actually, mainstream 6 core cpus should be more common now!

 

[Sciz]

What's the deal with Ryzen scaring Intel? I looked at some benchmarks and it seemed that Intel won in almost every game apart from that tech demo made for AMD GPUs.

Look at benchmarks for applications that aren't games.

 

[Papacheeks]

A 1600X is all but hard capped at 4GHz for mere mortals. Delidding Intel chips are only if you're trying to push past 5GHz with custom loop. For "normal" people pushing 4.9GHz being at 60C instead of 80C doesn't have much difference. The single threaded performance is what's going to drive gaming performance and the Intel chips still have this in spades.



There's no reason to think these won't overclock ridiculously well coming off the back of a die shrink. Also, having 6 cores on the same uncore ring is going to be a much more efficient than 2x triple core CCXs over infinity fabric.

As long as optimizations like this keep happening then no, intel will not have that crown but in a few titles only.

And with AMD's partnership with BETHESDA among other big publishers and developers I expect multicore, mulithread optimizations on games to get put out more frequently.

 

[Black_Stride]

I'm sitting here with a 2500k trying to make my next processor last as long as this one.

Please hit it out of the park Intel.

Been begging for an upgrade forever.
Maybe going 6/12 is the answer.

 

[Danthrax]

I'm still using an i5-760 on an LGA1151 motherboard — now I can get a new processor without buying a new board? Hot dog, I waited 'em out!

Spoiler

RIP DDR4 RAM and m.2 SSDs, though, haha

 

[ZOONAMI]

Question is if I 6c6t is really much better than even a 4790k 4c8t.

 

[Papacheeks]

Question is if I 6c6t is really much better than even a 4790k 4c8t.

More than likely it will be a 6 core, 12 thread not a 6 core 6 thread.

 

[etta]

I'm sitting here with a 2500k trying to make my next processor last as long as this one.

Please hit it out of the park Intel.

Ya, I dunno what to do, get the 7800X or wait for Coffee/Cannon Lake...

 

[ZOONAMI]

Look at benchmarks for applications that aren't games.

And even then a 1600x ocd is pretty damn close even in gaming for far less $ than Intel 6 core offerings or even gaming sweet spot 4c8t i7s.

 

[Caayn]

I'm still using an i5-760 on an LGA1151 motherboard — now I can get a new processor without buying a new board? Hot dog, I waited 'em out!

Spoiler

RIP DDR4 RAM and m.2 SSDs, though, haha

Are you sure about that socket? The i5 760 uses a 1156 socket.

 

[elyetis]

I'm sitting here with a 2500k trying to make my next processor last as long as this one.

Please hit it out of the park Intel.

I'm at the same spot.

I could go Amd but I still want that clock speed for emulation.

 

[ZOONAMI]

More than likely it will be a 6 core, 12 thread not a 6 core 6 thread.

I'm talking about the listed i5, as in upgrading for less $ as you can currently do with an amd offering from an older i7.

We'll also probably see ryzen gen 2 around the same time as this, so amd really sort of has forced Intels hand here.

 

[Danthrax]

Are you sure about that socket? The i5 760 uses a 1156 socket.

wat







my dreams, they're crushed

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I'd say too many cores from intel means high heat temps, I just hope these 6 cores are cool.

That's not how this works. Intel essentially "turns off" entire cores at a given time to allow other cores to run at a higher frequency to match the workload.

 

[Caayn]

wat
my dreams, they're crushed

 

[secretanchitman]

Good, I’m happy AMD has them scared. They can fuck off with X299 for sure, as I’m probably going to use an i7 8700K for my upcoming build.

Interesting to see that it’s still LGA 1151 - I would imagine that would change up the sockets to push Z370/Z390?

 

[prag16]

Intel is panicking because they used to have the whole market to themselves.

...

No wonder they are shitting themselves.

Are we sure "panicking" and "shitting themselves" are accurate characterizations?

A little competition is good, and as consumers we can reap benefits. But a lot of people seem to be overstating things.

 

[Omnii-chan]

Hopefully its compatible with older 1151 boards with a firmware update.

 

[LCGeek]

AMD got them spooked! Interesting times!

Could easily become the 3rd great CPU race. Amd every few years does this to intel and the gains are amazing.

 

[Diablohead]

That's not how this works. Intel essentially "turns off" entire cores at a given time to allow other cores to run at a higher frequency to match the workload.

I was going along the line of their newer multi core chips being overheating beasts.

 

[Nheco]

Thanks God for Ryzen and AMD.

Go Vega!

 

[K.Jack]

Coffee and Cannon Lake were known to be going to 6-core consumer chips, and that was long before Ryzen was even released.

The only thing you'll end up thanking AMD for, will be the prices.

 

[sleepnaught]

Coffee and Cannon Lake were known to be going to 6-core consumer chips, and that was long before Ryzen was even released.

The only thing you'll end up thanking AMD for, will be the prices.

Doubtful, I expect them to launch at the usual prices

 

[Persona7]

What's the deal with Ryzen scaring Intel? I looked at some benchmarks and it seemed that Intel won in almost every game apart from that tech demo made for AMD GPUs.

$300 Ryzen processors are shitting on $1000 Intel processors.

 

[coastel]

Great this will finally make me upgrade my Intel 4004.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Intel die sizes have been shrinking for years, even with the added GPUs, and now they decide to add more cores to several lineup tiers.

That's to everyone who thought Intel would be fine without competition as they'd compete with themselves. This is no coincidence. Spooked, maybe not, but definitely mindful of competition providing more cores (and without the massive single core gap of Bulldozer)

 

[Azzurri]

Thatta boy AMD.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

What's the deal with Ryzen scaring Intel? I looked at some benchmarks and it seemed that Intel won in almost every game apart from that tech demo made for AMD GPUs.

It's more the balance of 'games and everything else'. Intel is great for games, but the Ryzen CPUs proven good enough while also beating their ass in terms of performance per dollar on rendering, editing, streaming, etc. Or as AMD likes to show in these nifty little charts:

Hint: The 1800X was half the price of the 6900k when it came out, and it's roughly on par.

 

[LQX]

Thank you, AMD.

.

 

[RdN]

Another big reminder of why competition is important.. People in this forum really need to get this into their heads.

 

[K.Jack]

What's the deal with Ryzen scaring Intel? I looked at some benchmarks and it seemed that Intel won in almost every game apart from that tech demo made for AMD GPUs.

The 7700K still rules gaming, but Ryzen is winning everything else, which is really bad for Intel.

Another big reminder of why competition is important.. People in this forum really need to get this into their heads.

Except this has nothing to do with Ryzen.

 

[KnightimeX_Legacy]

What's a good motherboard upgrade from a i7 2600?
I'm highly interested in the i7 8700k

 

[StereoVsn]

So, i7 8700k - 6c/12t looks quite interesting. Need to see benchmarks and thermals first though. 7700k is quite suspect with its crazy temperatures.

If anything this will hopefully make overall CPU cost go down including Ryzen.

 

[Aztechnology]

A French magazine/website allegedly obtained information about engineering samples from Intels Coffee Lake consumer CPUs. Pointing towards a sudden change in core count for Intel's mainstream line of core I CPUs after seven generations without a change in core count.

From the site:
CPU - cores/threads - frequency - L3 - TDP
i7 8700k - 6c/12t - 3.7Ghz - 12MB - 95w
i7 8700 - 6c/12t -3.2Ghz - 12MB - 95w
i5 8600k - 6/6 - 3.6Ghz - 9MB - 95w
i5 8400 - 6/6 - 2.8Ghz - 9MB - 65w

These CPUs are set to use the LGA1151 socket. Which would also mean that the LGA1151 socket is the first consumer socket in a long time to host more than two generations of Intel CPUs. (As long as the chipset will be compatible of course)

Source: https://www.cpchardware.com/coffee-lake-approche/

So likely we'll see the space taken by the IGPU replaced by the extra cores? Or are these going to be fit alongside?

I have a 5820k and X99 board, but I'd like to move to my Z270 board I was using for mining (Some higher end Carbon gaming Mobo I got on sale) because I've just had minor annoyances with my 5820k and X99 setup. So it's good to see that they'll be 1151. That will save me some money.

May end up going AMD later though, we'll see based on Benchmarks and future revisions of both AMD and Intel. Competition is goooood and I'd like to support AMD at some point, but they have to give me a better product than what I have currently with the 5820k at $300.

 

[cartman414]

But lower core clocks? I dunno man...

Higher core processors always start at a slower speed to keep within thermals. Happened with Core 2 Quad. Clocks will app approach 4.0 GHz again. Give it time.

 

[Shin]

Add this to the OP, easier on the eyes.

 

[LowParry]

Hmmm. Will it be time to upgrade my 3570k?

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

So likely we'll see the space taken by the IGPU replaced by the extra cores? Or are these going to be fit alongside?

They're mainstream parts, so they'll almost certainly have integrated graphics.

 

[Gaogaogao]

will games start being optimized for more than 4 cores?

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

will games start being optimized for more than 4 cores?

Please no god please no I just got my i5 a few months ago please no fuck no...

 

[s_mirage]

I'm at the same spot.

I could go Amd but I still want that clock speed for emulation.

I'm in a similar boat too. Single threaded performance has to be significantly stronger than my 3570K@4.4 to get me to upgrade. Ryzen's overclocking seems quite poor, and Intel's continued use of toothpaste for TIM has me nervous if their new chips are lower clocked than Kaby Lake.

 

[saskuatch]

I hope to keep my 4790k for year or two before I switch.

 

[TC McQueen]

Please no god please no I just got my i5 a few months ago please no fuck no...

They already do. Frostbite 3 games can cause i5s to hit 100% utilization in complex scenes.

 

[Slick Butter]

So they glued on an i3?

When will my 4690k @ 4.4GHz be too old?

 

[Maintenance]

 

 

[qa_engineer]

5820K still going strong 2.5 years later, no need to upgrade until Lightroom and PS start choking on me. WIth that said thanks AMD for lighting a fire under intel's ass.

 

[Lkr]

Good I need an excuse to upgrade my CPU. Still running a 3570k at stock speed because I haven't seen any need to upgrade