Vinterbird
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There is no way Microsoft would reveal their next console tonight. It will be revealed next year and launched next fall.
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Rumor: Leaked document detailing MS future plans for the Xbox line. 56 pages long.
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There is no way Microsoft would reveal their next console tonight. It will be revealed next year and launched next fall.
Actually this is like WiiU, a tablet and a stationary hardware outside it
The CPU-GPU are not in the tablet iteself, so it could definatly last more than any actual tablet
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
MS Surface actually, but yeah, they are planning to produce a smaller version. And those specs are very fake.
sorry if old
Microsoft lawyers remove leaked 'Xbox 720' document
Paper claims new console will launch 2013 at $299, complete with Blu-ray and advanced Kinect technology
By Rob Crossley for CVG UK
A 56 page PowerPoint document that supposedly reveals sensitive information about Microsoft's next-generation console has been removed from the website it was leaked to.
The document, published on Scribd, claims the Xbox 720 will be released for the 2013 holidays with 4-6x the power of the current Xbox 360, at a price of $299.
It was removed following a complaint from Covington & Burling LLP, an international law firm that lists Microsoft as one of its clients.
The authenticity of the document, apparently written in 2010, remains a matter for dispute.
If genuine, the details within are difficult to verify as the paper appears to have been written in 2010. Games console design is a process that traditionally has one project undergo a multitude of redesigns.
According to the document, the Xbox 720 will feature Blu-ray compatibility, a form of augmented reality glasses, "Kinect version 2" and the recent SmartGlass service.
Some of the details, such as release date, match with data supplied by CVG's sources.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/354086/microsoft-lawyers-remove-leaked-xbox-720-document/
Microsoft lawyers remove leaked 'Xbox 720' document
Paper claims new console will launch 2013 at $299, complete with Blu-ray and advanced Kinect technology
By Rob Crossley for CVG UK
A 56 page PowerPoint document that supposedly reveals sensitive information about Microsoft's next-generation console has been removed from the website it was leaked to.
The document, published on Scribd, claims the Xbox 720 will be released for the 2013 holidays with 4-6x the power of the current Xbox 360, at a price of $299.
It was removed following a complaint from Covington & Burling LLP, an international law firm that lists Microsoft as one of its clients.
The authenticity of the document, apparently written in 2010, remains a matter for dispute.
If genuine, the details within are difficult to verify as the paper appears to have been written in 2010. Games console design is a process that traditionally has one project undergo a multitude of redesigns.
According to the document, the Xbox 720 will feature Blu-ray compatibility, a form of augmented reality glasses, "Kinect version 2" and the recent SmartGlass service.
Some of the details, such as release date, match with data supplied by CVG's sources.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/354086/microsoft-lawyers-remove-leaked-xbox-720-document/
Very old.
joshwaan
Member
this one looks fake, so I will post this here.
http://www.shifted2u.com/shifted/in...ox-surface-details&catid=46:gaming&Itemid=138
Fan Boys wet dream
ROFLMFAO not one but two Power 7 CPU yeah... no
22.2 Surround sound WTF lol
5GB RAM why not 6 lol
Oh dude you forgot the price all for $999
anyways bit of a laugh thanks for posting mate
Fan Boys wet dream
ROFLMFAO not one but two Power 7 CPU yeah... no
22.2 Surround sound WTF lol
5GB RAM why not 6 lol
Oh dude you forgot the price all for $999 on 2 year contract of $49 a month
anyways bit of a laugh thanks for posting mate
Almost as bad as that PS4 one.
megashock5
Member
People do this all the time, but you can't apply traditional inflation rules to technology.
PS2 was far more advanced than PS1 and launched at the same price, because technology becomes cheaper over time.
A TV or computer can be purchased today for less than they would have been five years ago, but with far more features and better speed/tech.
Theonik
Member
DTS HD-MA am cry.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
Specs are pretty decent for 299... it is what you get when MS doesn't want to take significant upfront losses...
don't forget that there is a full 360 CPU in there as well...
Damon Bennet
Member
but surface is already a microsoft brand
Glorified G
Member
Outside of the US no one will give a fuck. I never understood this whole DVR, ESPN all in one media box. If people had any interest they would already have a cable box capable of doing all that. It reminds of the 360 launch where some thought streaming media between the 360 and your pc through Windows Media Center would be some kind of game changer. Vast majority will buy a 720 for software only.
Xbox360 is already a Dvr. I used them in my house with media center.
Smart glass should show they will support iOS and android.
The big unknown is how far Sony pushes the specs in the ps4. Ms has the added cost of kinect. Sony doesn't and could just put this money back into specs.
FunnyBunny
Member
You need to re-think your position.
Plenty of people, myself included, cut cable due to its ridiculous cost. I watch an incredible amount of television through my XBOX - including ESPN - and want more. Streaming content is a terrific value and continues to get better.
Just look at the usage data. More XBOX Live subscribers spend time streaming Netflix than they do playing games.
Yeah I'd like to see what both offer before jumping in.
God I hate my current cable box. What a piece of crap.
I do have my Windows Media Center set up, but only for over the air and analog cable. I want my slick future back to the future tv viewing!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm puzzled as to how these specs are "weak."
DaSorcerer7
Member
the document was legit.
FunnyBunny
Member
How much more "powerful" was the 360 compared to the original XBOX?
I am trying to get a loose idea of what 6-8 times more powerful than a 360 means, exactly.
I am trying to get a loose idea of what 6-8 times more powerful than a 360 means, exactly.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
On the subject of the name, XBox 720 is good for exactly one reason. It's what everyone is already calling it.
XBox 10 is weird, XBox 3 is very factual, but not terribly good. XBox Universal is destined to be hacked and turned into a sekrit interwebs of some sort in San Francisco. Xbox Infinite/Infinity is just really pretentious.
XBox 10 is weird, XBox 3 is very factual, but not terribly good. XBox Universal is destined to be hacked and turned into a sekrit interwebs of some sort in San Francisco. Xbox Infinite/Infinity is just really pretentious.
Thanks. I haven't read through this entire thread or the entire article. I just figured if this was out for as long as it's been, someone would have tweeted if it was legit or not.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I think it's basically equivalent to a good PC from last year. Someone else can correct me if I am wrong.
Torne's doing pretty good in Japan, it's actually given the PS3 a decent boost in sales. I agree MS has a better chance at winning the marketing battle, but only in the U.S.
Xbox 8 ties into the Windows version that'll be launching around the time the new Xbox is announced.
Always-honest
Banned
When is E3?
Sorry, but I missed the source that confirmed the document as legit...
can anyone provide it?
And that's supposed to last for ten years. Oh dear.
quickwhips
Member
If this is last console gen then they should just call it xbox infinite. Then when they start streaming games in like 4-5 more years instead of selling them in stores it will hold true.
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
The ESA has yet to announce dates and venue for E3 2013, due to issues with a proposed renovation to the Los Angeles Convention Center. They have said a statement will come shortly though.
schwabdizzle
Banned
Looks like a lawyer asked you to remove the material.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478941&page=3
Anyone know why that thread is now locked?
Anyone know why that thread is now locked?
SappYoda
Member
It was not reliable at all.
Each console already has an active thread, grouping both together would stir up pointless comparisons over rumored specs, which is the silliest idea for a thread imo. Besides we have no idea how reliable or current any of those specs are.
infinityBCRT
Member
could we be looking right at the Xbox 3 & not knowing it?
at first I thought this was just fake because I was thinking no way in hell a tablet has these specs, but looking at it again it's not a tablet the tablet is just a part of it like the Wii U.
Hah, you're on to something. Maybe this is fake as shit, but everyone has been reading this sheet wrong. Whoever made it intended it to be read as the specs for the next Xbox.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Exactly, not one reliable piece of information there.
Beerman462
Member
Those specs are under the subtitle Stationary Computing Device hype
could we be looking right at the Xbox 3 & not knowing it?
at first I thought this was just fake because I was thinking no way in hell a tablet has these specs, but looking at it again it's not a tablet the tablet is just a part of it like the Wii U.
could we be looking right at the Xbox 3 & not knowing it?
at first I thought this was just fake because I was thinking no way in hell a tablet has these specs, but looking at it again it's not a tablet the tablet is just a part of it like the Wii U.
Microsoft is playing with tablets but that does not represent their next Xbox. There are clear signs of fabrication, as already discussed.
Reliable? No. Some accuracies due to the age of the information? Yes.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
10k rpm scsi disks
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
I don't even know what that means. Everything posted in that OP was just guesses, rumors and speculation, nothing reliable whatsoever.
could we be looking right at the Xbox 3 & not knowing it?
at first I thought this was just fake because I was thinking no way in hell a tablet has these specs, but looking at it again it's not a tablet the tablet is just a part of it like the Wii U.
This is fake, there are clear signs in the spec sheet itself.
Gemüsepizza
Member
If the specs in the closed thread are true, I think Microsoft will have a really hard time. 3-4 GB RAM does sound good at first glance, but it seems a significant part of this could be reserved for heavy usage of apps and other os functions. And because you don't need really fast RAM for these purposes, I think it is entirely possible that Microsoft will use, for example 4 GB of slow, unified DDR3/4 RAM and eDRAM. I don't think this would be that much superior to 2 GB of fast, unified GDDR5 RAM in the PS4.
The CPU in the Xbox seems to have more cores then the one of the PS4, but I guess one or maybe two are reserved for apps and os functions, too (if there is really such a big focus on these things). And core count is not enough to judge the power of a CPU, frequency is also important. The GPU in these rumored specs seems to be a lot weaker then the one in the PS4, and I think you can compare them quite well because they probably are from the same company. In terms of storage media, Microsoft will probably use a standard Blu-ray ROM, but I imagine Sony could use a fast BDXL drive. This could further boost reading speeds. While no game will probably use the whole 128 gigabytes of a 4 layer Blu-ray disc, it could be possible (I guess) to put most of the data at the outer diameter of a disc on every layer. Reading speed is higher there then at the inner diameter. Modern drives can read 45 Megabytes per second (vs 9 Megabytes in PS3) which could positively affect streaming techniques, further easing the amount of RAM of the PS4.
The thing is, I am not convinced that Microsoft will succeed with a strategy which concentrates heavily on things like apps and services. This may work in the US because it is a large, homogeneous market, but what is with the rest of the world? Europe is not so homogeneous, there are many different countries with very different legal situations. If you compare their current Xbox services in Europe with the ones in the USA, you will notice immediately the difference. And this would totally bomb in Japan.
Regarding their streaming plans: I don't think the world will be ready for this in 2015. I have the feeling that telecommunication companies are concentrating more on improving mobile networks then on improving traditional, wired internet connections. I think such a strategy would be really risky. Including Kinect is in my opinion not a good idea, too. I have yet not seen a really meaningful use of this piece of hardware, and I think it will not be relevant for third-party multiplatform titles or core gaming titles.
All in all I am very sceptical of these supposed specs and plans.
The CPU in the Xbox seems to have more cores then the one of the PS4, but I guess one or maybe two are reserved for apps and os functions, too (if there is really such a big focus on these things). And core count is not enough to judge the power of a CPU, frequency is also important. The GPU in these rumored specs seems to be a lot weaker then the one in the PS4, and I think you can compare them quite well because they probably are from the same company. In terms of storage media, Microsoft will probably use a standard Blu-ray ROM, but I imagine Sony could use a fast BDXL drive. This could further boost reading speeds. While no game will probably use the whole 128 gigabytes of a 4 layer Blu-ray disc, it could be possible (I guess) to put most of the data at the outer diameter of a disc on every layer. Reading speed is higher there then at the inner diameter. Modern drives can read 45 Megabytes per second (vs 9 Megabytes in PS3) which could positively affect streaming techniques, further easing the amount of RAM of the PS4.
The thing is, I am not convinced that Microsoft will succeed with a strategy which concentrates heavily on things like apps and services. This may work in the US because it is a large, homogeneous market, but what is with the rest of the world? Europe is not so homogeneous, there are many different countries with very different legal situations. If you compare their current Xbox services in Europe with the ones in the USA, you will notice immediately the difference. And this would totally bomb in Japan.
Regarding their streaming plans: I don't think the world will be ready for this in 2015. I have the feeling that telecommunication companies are concentrating more on improving mobile networks then on improving traditional, wired internet connections. I think such a strategy would be really risky. Including Kinect is in my opinion not a good idea, too. I have yet not seen a really meaningful use of this piece of hardware, and I think it will not be relevant for third-party multiplatform titles or core gaming titles.
All in all I am very sceptical of these supposed specs and plans.
Horse Armour
Member
Lol wut? Blu ray disc video supports 22.2 using HDMI, there's nothing extravagant about it. It's no different to PS3 supporting 48bit deep colour when practically nothing uses it, it adds nothing to the cost.
No, what are you on about? Blu ray most certainly does not support 22.2. 7.1 at a pinch these days. Movies are not mixed at 22.2! Do some research before making dumb posts.