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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Phonomezer
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Project Cafe controlpad prototype http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHCl6Pi-Uyg
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Zoramon089 said:
Do you think this is the 1930's where everything's hand made by a individual(s). "Labor" is largely automated in third world countries for penny's on the dollar. It's $5-10 per unit at best--which includes packing and distribution. R&D, operations, and marketing would actually wind up being a tremendous savings if they had rolled both devices into a single product.
Perfect Blue
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Why not a new Castlevania instead?Machado said:
Saint Gregory
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Because maybe we can get it at a stable framerate this time?Dissonance said:
Phonomezer
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Dissonance said:
Because Lords of Shadow is an excellent game!
Perfect Blue
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I don't know man, I'd prefer a totally new game done by Konami and not resembling God of War.Saint Gregory said:
Grampa Simpson
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I was making a grilled cheese sandwich, and it came out looking like this:
Do you think it's a sign?
Do you think it's a sign?
Saint Gregory
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And I wouldn't mind double-dipping, can't we have both?Dissonance said:
Of either the new Wii or the apocalypse.BMF said:
Dr.Palutena
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ok i've haven't been paying attention to this thread for a while now....what the shit is going on in here?
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KAL2006 said:
You are confusing my point. The Wii 2 base station would remain as is, BR, R700 GPU, IBM CPU, and whatever else. Only difference would be redesigning the 3DS into a single 6" screen device. Maybe it could be 3D, maybe not. That wouldn't really be necessary with a unique product model like this.
wsippel said:
I think you're over estimating the tier and expense of the 3DS's innards, much less what Nintendo actually pays. It's hardly cutting edge tech. I still do not believe it would be far removed from what would be required in some semi-smart streaming controller. Maybe $30-$50 cost increase at launch, obviously reducing over time.
AceBandage
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DoomXploder7 said:
No new rumors make GAF... something something...
RPGCrazied
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Man. Monday is going to take decades to get here. >_<
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BMF said:I was making a grilled cheese sandwich, and it came out looking like this:
Do you think it's a sign?
Man, the internal HD will get toasted....................get it? Anyone?
AceBandage
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RPGCrazied said:
And it's late late late Monday. Basically into Tuesday morning for most of us.
Reallink said:
I don't understand didn't you say before there is no point of 3DS, the WiiHD should have been a hybrid handheld/console. So my point stands. If all the processing, DVD remains on the WiiHD then how exactly would the controller be a handheld if it doesn't have any of that.
Phonomezer
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dvolovets said:If we can get a sequel to Lords of Shadow at 60 FPS...
Hell yes. Aside from the first 2 chapters (which I thought were awful), Mercury Steam hit it out of the park with LoS. I'm surprised that the game goes rather unnoticed considering the name it carries.
And it was loooooooong - totally awesome.
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I can't believe this thread is still alive and kicking. I thought for sure the new IGN thread was the death of this.
Is there really anything else to talk about now? Haven't we covered all bases at least three times? I just wish a Mod would freeze this thread until Monday so I can stop clicking in the hope of new information or at least a decent conversation.
I mean A fake Wii 2 mock-up on a piece of toast? Really?
Is there really anything else to talk about now? Haven't we covered all bases at least three times? I just wish a Mod would freeze this thread until Monday so I can stop clicking in the hope of new information or at least a decent conversation.
I mean A fake Wii 2 mock-up on a piece of toast? Really?
AceBandage
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Skiesofwonder said:
As long as the discussion remains relevant, the thread remains open.
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AceBandage said:
I hardly find Wii toast, Homer Simpson, and the incoming creation of bingo cards relevant.......
Skiesofwonder said:
I thought 01net updated today with information that the controller looks a bit like the uDraw tablet from THQ except with buttons, info about the screen resolution, and about streaming "full games" to the controller like IGN said a while ago. If this is true we are slowly getting a clearer picture of the console and "confirming" some of our own speculation in this thread.
Edit: here's a google translation of the page
http://translate.google.com/transla...es-precisions-sur-la-manette-et-le-streaming/
Edit Again: from the translation "Streaming plays a central role in the attraction of this "Project Café. The console will be able to stream wirelessly streaming multiple types of streams (different media, games) to the knobs.This will make it possible to play without turning on the TV, or start a frenzied games on the big screen, and continue uninterrupted into the toilet. A real revolution!"
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"The console and the controllers could operate on a principle of "virtualization," the bulk of the calculations performed by the console itself, and controllers serving terminals capable of displaying the code pre-calculated. This system would distribute the game in high-quality controllers, without significant latency and without using a compressed video stream and demanding in terms of bandwidth."
Don't know how seriously you want to take this, but it is what they are now reporting.
i was listening to giant bomb and they made an excellent observation, namely that nintendo is pretty much done with motion control. i can see where they're coming from and to me it's a very promising sign.
nintendo is at their best when they're running contrary to their competition. sony and microsoft are chasing nintendo's five year old fumes. microsoft with a slightly different take on things albeit with the same sort of software. sony with an almost direct copy, again with the same sort of software (and tacked on controls to normal ps3 games)
the new wii and the ngp signify everything that i like about nintendo/sony. i cant wait for e3
nintendo is at their best when they're running contrary to their competition. sony and microsoft are chasing nintendo's five year old fumes. microsoft with a slightly different take on things albeit with the same sort of software. sony with an almost direct copy, again with the same sort of software (and tacked on controls to normal ps3 games)
the new wii and the ngp signify everything that i like about nintendo/sony. i cant wait for e3
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Yeah, but it's a party. That's the important thing.Skiesofwonder said:
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KAL2006 said:
My proposal was to literally put the 3DS's guts (CPU, GPU, RAM, MOBO, Flash Reader) into this 6" streaming controller and market them as one product (that plays both console and portable games) While not a literal console/portable hybrid, it would be in practice as the "3DS" would serve as the Wii 2's standard primary controller and gimmick (the streaming stuff, and whatever else they have planned).
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I still don't like the "stream full games" thing. in my dorm, I'm only 10 ft away from my tv at the most.
AceBandage
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From The Dust said:
Zelda HD while you're on the can.
From The Dust
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AceBandage said:
I guess. how much battery does streaming drain anyway?
AceBandage
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From The Dust said:
Probably not much more than it being wireless to begin with.
It would be the screen itself that would cause the battery drain.
And honestly, without all the fluff that handhelds have (strong CPU/GPU) and a larger battery, we're looking at longer than anyone should be gaming in a single day.
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well that is kind of stupid, then that is not a console/handheld hypbrid, that is just bundling a handheld and a console together which is stupid. Why didn't GBA come with GameCube, why didn;t DS come with Wii, hell why doesn't NGP come with PS4. I will tell you why because it is pointless and only add to the cost, what is the point if it is not truly a hybrid, and they will have seperate games, this is basically just selling 2 devices together for no apparent reason. Like I said many times before having a screen on a controller does not make the price anwhere near a price of full handheld console.
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I'm not sure if somebody has brought it up, but would it be possible for the controller to be charged wirelessly, so that it never runs out of juice as long as it is in range of the console?
Phonomezer
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KAL2006 said:
Wow, let's wait until we see it before we call it stupid and pointless.
AceBandage
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Igor Antunov said:
Err... No?
Unless you have a new Tesla Machine that we don't know about...
brochiller said:
I think they are just assuming this, in their last leak they said you can stream without using TV, but they were not sure if it is full games or other stuff like checking messages, playing minigames, videos and etc. I just don't see streaming full games working because of lag, it would only work in the same room, then streaming full games wouldn't work for motion games and games that use the extra screen of the controller as an extension or for gameplay. The technology is not there to have streaming without any input lag.
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brochiller said:
wtf.
They say in the beginning that IGN's article confirmed everything they had already stated earlier about the specs, but wasn't that originally something that was different in both? I'm confused.
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Igor Antunov said:
Unfortunely, Tesla wasn't available to work with Nintendo..
=(
AceBandage
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Holy Order Sol said:
This is an example of rumors cross chatter.
One source says something, so the other says "Hey, yeah, that sounds good. We'll confirm on that." even if it isn't 100% true.
I know people are worried about a new gamepad splitting the market with the WiiMotion Plus if games are going to use one or the other, but (and this is a rumor that's been floating around a few lesser known sites) what if all new games are compatible with both control options. Like, say, an option screen similar to the one from SSBM integrated into the actual system. WiiMotion Plus remotes are cheap as hell to manufacture now-a-days. Couldn't they just throw one in the box?
Maybe you're saying this doesn't jive with the rumors about upgraded Wiimote functionality. Well, the Wiimote Plus already has a dual-axis tuning fork gyroscope, and a single-axis gyroscope. Is there a way to increase the performance/accuracy of the WiiMotion Plus without changing its internals? Would adding an external camera or upgraded sensor bar directly to the Wii2/Project Cafe' system itself achieve this? It could be a great option for Nintendo. Stick on in the box for cheap (alongside the new controller) and just keep the ones they already have on the shelves that can be used by both Wii and Wii two, but when used with Wii 2 they become more accurate. Nintendo's already shown they have no problem with putting additional hardware inside the box to justify cost (like the charging cradle included with the 3DS) Seems like a nice solution if it's possible. Sorry if this has already been covered. Long thread is long.
Maybe you're saying this doesn't jive with the rumors about upgraded Wiimote functionality. Well, the Wiimote Plus already has a dual-axis tuning fork gyroscope, and a single-axis gyroscope. Is there a way to increase the performance/accuracy of the WiiMotion Plus without changing its internals? Would adding an external camera or upgraded sensor bar directly to the Wii2/Project Cafe' system itself achieve this? It could be a great option for Nintendo. Stick on in the box for cheap (alongside the new controller) and just keep the ones they already have on the shelves that can be used by both Wii and Wii two, but when used with Wii 2 they become more accurate. Nintendo's already shown they have no problem with putting additional hardware inside the box to justify cost (like the charging cradle included with the 3DS) Seems like a nice solution if it's possible. Sorry if this has already been covered. Long thread is long.
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If you'll be able to play the whole game just on the controller doesn't that mean any usage of the controller-screen (for menus and such) when playing on the TV has to be completely optional?
I guess the main problem with this is devs are going to have make two control systems for every game, which they won't be ecstatic about.
GDGF said:
I guess the main problem with this is devs are going to have make two control systems for every game, which they won't be ecstatic about.
AceBandage
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onken said:
For most games, that is likely. I'm sure some weird games will use it functionally, though.
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