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[Dr.Palutena]

The ultimate battle is...brewing

but nintendo's already got starwolf on the case. their victory is assured .

 

[Azure J]

this is the one that doesn't sit well with me.

Oh well

I'm of the opinion that what they mean is that it's easy to get code working on the system between the two. I'll gladly eat my crow if it has to happen, but going with R700 tech alone really puts me in a psuedo I'm_okay_with_this.jpg" kind of mindset.

 

[Gospel]

No rumors, Nintendo has a history of horrible online system. Including 3DS, so I'm assuming the new system wont be any different.

To be fair, do you honestly expect a good online service on a Nintendo console?

To be completely honest with you, I'm waiting until the eShop goes live to see where I stand on this. But generally no.
They seem to know what to do and have a grasp on ideas but are to unwilling to jump in headfirst. Instead, they soak their feet in the water.

 

[Father_Brain]

To be fair, do you honestly expect a good online service on a Nintendo console?

1UP's Sam Kennedy also apparently said that "you'll want to play Call of Duty on PS3 or 360 instead," or something to that effect. Considering Nintendo's history, the most obvious interpretation of that would be as a reference to online features, but who knows.

 

[Exuro]

What exactly is going on Tuesday?

 

[pharmboy044]

To be fair, do you honestly expect a good online service on a Nintendo console?

Why not? The 3DS online is going in the right direction.

Also, with the amount of money that Nintendo has made from the Wii and DS, you'd think they would invest some of that to create a new online network infrastructure.

 

[JohnTinker]

What exactly is going on Tuesday?

Investors meeting

 

[Lonely1]

the quote is from a developer not the site's own conjecturer. If it says capabilities comparable to blah blah then that's what they mean.

The odd thing about is that 4.1 SM support and R700 based reports contradicts the graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360" statement.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

Well Miyamoto acknowledged the system in a recent interview as cafe' as well.

But nice find!

 

[antonz]

The odd thing about that, is that 4.1 SM support and R700 based reports contradicts graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360" statement.

Like I said it can all be a matter of perspective. You have enough people around Gaf saying a GPU 4 times more powerful than the Ps360 is junk.

Im sure alot of developers are morons too

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Well Miyamoto acknowledged is as cafe' as well.

But nice find!

Did he? I don't recall that coming out of his interview

 

[yoopoo]

Why not? The 3DS online is going in the right direction.

Also, with the amount of money that Nintendo has made from the Wii and DS, you'd think they would invest some of that to create a new online network infrastructure.

Are you kidding...3DS has the friend codes system. Its already a failure.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

Well Miyamoto acknowledged is as cafe' as well.

But nice find!

what? when was this?link?

 

[Big One]

Could someone please fix that image link of the mockup made by that French site? Cause that could easily be our closest clue at what the new controller looks like.

 

[Lonely1]

1UP's Sam Kennedy also apparently said that "you'll want to play Call of Duty on PS3 or 360 instead," or something to that effect. Considering Nintendo's history, the most obvious interpretation of that would be as a reference to online features, but who knows.

Wasn't he talking about the controller?

 

[Holy Order Sol]

The odd thing about that, is that 4.1 SM support and R700 based reports contradicts graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360" statement.

If I'm not mistaken, IGN is among those who reported that the system was "significantly" (whatever that means) more powerful. In another article, 01net states that IGN has confirmed everything they had previously reported. It seems weird to me because people tend to think that the stories are in conflict to begin with.

 

[Instro]

The odd thing about that, is that 4.1 SM support and R700 based reports contradicts graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360" statement.

Considering the french site was the only one reporting the "slightly above 360" line, maybe there was just a miscommunication or mistranslation from wherever they got their info. I mean at this point all major gaming sites have probably gotten all the same info through reliable sources so its a bit unlikely that they are all reporting incorrectly on the power.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

If Cafe is it's codename, i'd say that the console allows you to be playing it around your television, then take the controller away with the game loaded in and to keep playing it, like takeaway console gaming. Perhaps.

 

[Luigiv]

It doesnt match with the specs they suggest either so not worth looking into it much. a 4X graphical improvement might be a notch to someone expect a 15x improvement

Yep. A 4x difference in graphics is roughly the same as that between the PS2 and Wii.

 

[Lonely1]

Like I said it can all be a matter of perspective. You have enough people around Gaf saying a GPU 4 times more powerful than the Ps360 is junk.

Im sure alot of developers are morons too

Yes, i have said it before, almost anything under current high end would be reported as last gen, hence around Ps3/360.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

1UP's Sam Kennedy also apparently said that "you'll want to play Call of Duty on PS3 or 360 instead," or something to that effect. Considering Nintendo's history, the most obvious interpretation of that would be as a reference to online features, but who knows.

Brah if Sam Kennedy knew anything of note, he would say it and not just utter vague references as if he were a chracter on Lost.

 

[Boney]

I feel so popular right now <3

 

[JohnTinker]

Any other images you can sniff out?

 

[The Hermit]

Unless Nintendo is branching off in to coffee shops.

Man, if this was true, Gaf would meltdown harder than the day Sega left hardware manufacture.

 

[Plinko]

The odd thing about is that 4.1 SM support and R700 based reports contradicts the graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360" statement.

Yeah, something isn't matching up with these rumors right now. I look forward to the investor meeting and E3 for more concrete details. Definitely want a more powerful console.

If Nintendo thinks they're going to sell a $350 console to the "hardcore" that is "roughly the same power as 360" they're crazy.

 

[Azure J]

Tuesdayton is INEVITABLE. BELIEVE.

Wow, in one year we get both Thusdayton & a potential Tuesdayton. Amazing. :lol

 

[Dr.Palutena]

Man, if this was true, Gaf would meltdown harder than the day Sega left hardware manufacture.

what you're saying you wouldn't like an nintendo café store. buy the lastest nintendo game while having a princess peach vanilla macchiato, then join the local multiplayer game of mario kart streamed to the controller you rented from the counter.it'd be hipper than an apple store i tell ya.

 

[Azure J]

what you're saying you wouldn't like an nintendo café store. buy the lastest nintendo game while having a princess peach vanilla macchiato, then join the local multiplayer game of mario kart streamed to the controller you rented from the counter.it'd be hipper than an apple store i tell ya.

Heh, this all reminds me of the pimp ass cafeteria they had done in the office up in Redmond recently.

 

[Fourth Storm]

I still find it incredibly odd what Nintendo is doing here. Are they planning to compete against the PS3/360 for the rest of their duration or will this also go up against their next two consoles? Is it a stop-gap or is this our first next-gen console?

Actually, this could benefit gamers. They're effectively staggering hardware releases with Sony and MS. So, instead of getting a new generation every 5/6 years, we'll be getting them every 2/3 years. Good for graphics whores.

 

[Foffy]

Actually, this could benefit gamers. They're effectively staggering hardware releases with Sony and MS. So, instead of getting a new generation every 5/6 years, we'll be getting them every 2/3 years. Good for graphics whores.

And very, very bad for wallets.

 

[wonderfuldays]

what? when was this?link?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428052
Not confirmation by Miyamoto but "where there's smoke there's fire"

 

[Jaruru]

Woah. Shit's getting real.

holy... in 2 days :O...

are we READY... for the meltdown

 

[789shadow]

Classic Nintendo: ludicrous idea, probably flawless execution.

 

[Fourth Storm]

And very, very bad for wallets.

Alot of people on GAF will buy all 3 systems. I'd think having them come out all at the same time would be worse on wallets.

 

[Gospel]

Nintendo will have situated themselves in a good position with Japanese developers struggling with developing on current gen HD consoles if the power musings are grounded in truth. That should keep things good for Japanese side of development well into next-gen.

Western third parties are definitely not going to give damn about it after Sony and Microsoft hit with their offerings though. And that point, we'll be back to the Wii situation on the western side of things.

I hope for their sake the surprise feature is a game changer

 

[Skiesofwonder]

what? when was this?link?

Miyamoto's interview in Paris:

Gameblog:

Enfin pour conclure avec les objets, je vous ai ramené une tasse de... café ! Vous aurez compris que je fais référence au fameux « Projet Café », la Wii 2 en rumeur depuis quelques jours sur le net...

Miyamoto:

Oui, j'ai vu qu'on retrouve des rumeurs parlant de « Café ». A la fois j'ai envie de dire que c'est normal. Vous savez pour Nintendo, comme pour l'ensemble des autres constructeurs, notre métier est de concevoir de nouvelles machines. Nous estimons qu'il faut 5 ans pour faire de la Recherche & Développement intéressante. Après, j'avoue qu'il n'y a pas de fumée sans feu. Il faut bien voir que nous passons notre temps à développer des consoles de jeu en interne. Certaines que vous ne verrez jamais. Chez nous, tant que nous ne savons pas exactement où nous allons, et quand est-ce que nous sortirons notre prochaine console, nous ne communiquons pas publiquement. Mais il ne faut pas croire tout ce qu'on peut lire...

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Classic Nintendo: ludicrous idea, probably flawless execution.

at least for their games

third party titles will continue to be ass

 

[atomsk]

F.K. IN THE COFFEE

Isn't that right Zach?

 

[_Alkaline_]

Should we actually expect to see the console mentioned during the event on tuesday?

 

[Boney]

hot coffe

 

[Lonely1]

Should we actually expect to see the console mentioned during the event on tuesday?

Probably just like the 3DS announcement and full reveal at E3.

 

[Ace Harding]

If Cafe is it's codename, i'd say that the console allows you to be playing it around your television, then take the controller away with the game loaded in and to keep playing it, like takeaway console gaming. Perhaps.

I said this earlier in this thread, and I believe it's true now more than before. Why is nobody talking about this as a possible feature? Plus streetpass support...

 

[Doorman]

Actually, this could benefit gamers. They're effectively staggering hardware releases with Sony and MS. So, instead of getting a new generation every 5/6 years, we'll be getting them every 2/3 years. Good for graphics whores.

I'm still not convinced that's the best thing for developers or gamers both. That means developers wrestling with new hardware every two to three years as well, unless they continue to support old systems.

What you'd most likely end up with is the same sort of thing that happened this generation. They'd pick one of the "half-gens" to mainly support with the big efforts, leaving the other to wallow largely in shovelware and B-team efforts. Boy then you'd REALLY hate to bet on the wrong horse, because the situation could happen longer than a normal generational split would.

 

[civilstrife]

Actually, this could benefit gamers. They're effectively staggering hardware releases with Sony and MS. So, instead of getting a new generation every 5/6 years, we'll be getting them every 2/3 years. Good for graphics whores.

It's actually a good point.

Whereas people now argue that consumers will just decide to wait it out until PS4/Xbox720, the inverse of the argument is true too.

Why not invest in Cafe and wait until the release of Nintendo's next system to eclipse PS4/Xbox720?
Who decides when the "true" generation starts and ends?

Having the big 3 trade off in power superiority in this way seems like it would benefit everybody.

 

[DragonKnight]

Anybody still wanna call bs on Cafe being the codename?

 

[JABEE]

Cafe Codename Confirmed Conclusively?

 

[Lonely1]

I'm still not convinced that's the best thing for developers or gamers both. That means developers wrestling with new hardware every two to three years as well, unless they continue to support old systems.

But the iDevices will save us all!

 

[Gospel]

Anybody still wanna call bs on Cafe being the codename?

I want to so bad, but unless Nintendo is commissioning people to make games for an espresso machine, there's evidence staring down at us. sadface

 

[MisterHero]

hot coffe

can't let you brew that, rockstarfox

 

[Grampa Simpson]

Cafe Codename Confirmed Conclusively?

I can't wait to buy my CFE-001.