Mikey Jr.
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So the 10% was just laying there? It must have been used for something? Or is this just purely because of optimization?
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(RUMOR) Xbox One GPU reserve getting smaller soon, down from 10% to 2%
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So the 10% was just laying there? It must have been used for something? Or is this just purely because of optimization?
I pretty much doubt it.
pharmboy044
Member
In an another thread Chubigans was speculating via I think Mortimer that this might come at the expense of video not being snappable with games.
Not sure if this is a good idea if it costs one of your pillars to not be consistent across your ecosystem.
Not sure if this is a good idea if it costs one of your pillars to not be consistent across your ecosystem.
thehypocrite
Member
Xbone saved. famous the backup prophet.
EmptySpace
Banned
I was waiting for this thread all day, haha.
That's Thuway... And Mr.Dodd (=P) is almost always on target. And it he has doubts, he will say he has doubts. The certainty which he said it with, and the fact that it's not far fetched at all, makes this extremely likely to happen.
Another 8% is good and it's not gonna change the world, but these things are made out of an extra percentage here and there. Immediate effects are maybe more stable framerates.
Cirekiller
Member
Was the GPU the bottleneck of the console though?
Correct me if I'm wrong but, while more power to games is a great thing, I don't think an 8% increase will changed too much in terms of tangible benefits. Let me explain: While the console sees a small boost in power, it will not be enough to see a 30 fps to 60 fps difference and definitely not a 720 to 1080p difference. So the most this would do is (if all developers on the XBbone decide to unlock the framerate) have a game like Tomb Raider, for example, increase from 25-35 fps to 30-40 fps. If the developers decide to lock the framerate then it would be locked at 30 fps anyways and the extra power wouldn't be seen.
Again this is what I see from my very limited knowledge of hardware.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
They're keeping voice, prob skype voice calls and getting rid of video, meaning you probably won't be able to snap skype video calls or netflix, from what I'm understanding.
If they're keeping voice, they're getting rid of pretty much everything else, from what he's saying.
edit: in terms of splitting resources.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
Every little bit helps. Not much of a change in bridging the very real power gap to the competition though.
Before - 1.31TF - 0.131TF = 1.179TF (x1) vs 1.84TF (PS4)
After - 1.31TF - 0.026TF = 1.28TF (x1) vs 1.84TF (PS4)
What's more interesting is that by doing this they appear to be admitting that Kinect's motion sensing bit is useless. If all you're going to use are voice commands why not use a mic not built into the camera like the PS4 and be done with it?
Before - 1.31TF - 0.131TF = 1.179TF (x1) vs 1.84TF (PS4)
After - 1.31TF - 0.026TF = 1.28TF (x1) vs 1.84TF (PS4)
What's more interesting is that by doing this they appear to be admitting that Kinect's motion sensing bit is useless. If all you're going to use are voice commands why not use a mic not built into the camera like the PS4 and be done with it?
This is good news for Xbox One owners if true. I never knew why they reserved GPU to Kinect even if the game didn't use it. I know the goal is to promote your advanced motion tracking by reserving resources to it but it's just not useful for lots of games.
Edit: Does this mean "Go To Home" gesture won't work on all games?
Edit: Does this mean "Go To Home" gesture won't work on all games?
EmptySpace
Banned
wouldn't that mean it won't get to be used in future games and was only there for the tech demo pre-e3?
I don't want to give up snap for a small boost in GPU power for games.
Like, that is a very bad trade-off for me.
That's not a change you make with a hardware revision or new model. You make that change with a completely new console.
That's not the future, though.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
I just meant that the article was on N4G like 22 hours ago or something when I saw it last. I thought one of us would of post that link to the site they linked to and so on.
Damn us. We are slippin!
The way it's worded doesn't sound like optimization. There was a video component which sound like it's simply gone now. It sounds like Kinect. Kinect is the only thing I can think of that would have a "voice" and "video" component. Most likely this is Kinect being able to respond to system commands/gestures during a game. I don't know if Kinect currently had any system gestures available during the game, but those are probably gone if they existed, or they will never arrive if they didn't.
Angelus Errare
Banned
So no more video on snapped apps?
Quixz
Member
Farmer with shotgun now has a pistol..
rudieboy77
Member
Did they download more rams?
Chobel
Member
The problem is that all those articles have the same source, famousmortimer. I asked him if I can post it here in neogaf and he didn't reply so I thought he's still not comfortable sharing it here.
statham
Member
but what if you could play Tomb Raider with next gen grass!
RedAssedApe
Banned
Waiting for another delicious update from misterxmedia livejournal. ;D
Mort seems to have stopped posting this kind of stuff on GAF anymore. Noticed that thuway has stopped posting for awhile too. Even though both are kind of active on Twitter.
I'm not sure if its because of the whole double source thing or just the backlash in general he got the last time around...people calling him an attention whore and stuff like that.
Mort seems to have stopped posting this kind of stuff on GAF anymore. Noticed that thuway has stopped posting for awhile too. Even though both are kind of active on Twitter.
I'm not sure if its because of the whole double source thing or just the backlash in general he got the last time around...people calling him an attention whore and stuff like that.
UnObtainium17
Member
But MS told me they have the infinite cloud power...
ultratruman
Banned
i'm going to assume almost every major game will take advantage of this, which means goodbye ingame snap right?
freefornow
Gold Member
Didn't stop him posting that insider "completely broken XB1 OS" prior to launch BS.
Why he is given oxygen I'll never know.
Wickerbasket
Member
That would be great, but I doubt it. They seem to have went all in on Kinect.
I'm not really sure they'd get rid of snap either, but who knows.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Well Mort said it's "up to devs". So some games will probably leave snap functionality in tact, and other games, which are more intensive will disable snap, correct? Or am I super off base, here?
Does not sound like its enough to make any real difference, certainly not going to change the differences between ps4 and x1 multiplatforms in terms of moving forward.
But more is better so it's a positive for X1 fans I just don't seeing it changing things like 1080p / 60 for TR Definitive compared to 1080p / 30.
But more is better so it's a positive for X1 fans I just don't seeing it changing things like 1080p / 60 for TR Definitive compared to 1080p / 30.
RedAssedApe
Banned
wasn't that sourced by cboat? and yeah they all stated that they could see it getting fixed by launch. party system is still worse than 360 atm.
Thuway got a ban after leaking some bad info without a 2nd source, so I think now he just does it on Twitter and waits for people to repost here.
all in with kinect... as a x1 fan, its hardly fucking used currently. kinect sports rivals is what. march?
Chobel
Member
If he said it then he surely had two sources at that time.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
That was CBOAT. If you're going to insult someone, at least get the person right.
R3TRODYCE
Member
lol, DAT grass in TR Definitive is so bad. I wouldn't mind them taking away "Snapping video" because the video/sound always screw up but everything else needs to stay.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
Lord... that would be the best way to piss off your early adopters ever. Doing that is tantamount to brand and division suicide for Xbox.
SwiftDeath
Member
Every little bit would help raise the bar that's for sure
Colonel Nasty
Member
Nah, it was Mortimer but in his defense he did say they were gonna try to fix it by launch.
I beg to differ. Titanfall Alpha definitely didn't feel locked 60fps.
ChiliManiac
Banned
I don't think they would be so quick to get rid of such an essential marketing feature, sounds like they're just working on better optimization and have freed up more power . They're using 3 OS systems to make this machine work, that's mistake number one. Will see how this plays out in the long run, as a programer I can guarantee you I could find ways to use this boost of power in significant ways. It's like Bethesda throwing a party when the original 360 went from 256 to 512. It makes that much of a difference. Not that I program for the Xbox One but the principle is the same.