But it's only god damn Steel and Poison. WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!
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But it's only god damn Steel and Poison. WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!
Also two immunities and two resistances (assuming Normal/Fairy).
LonelySeal
Banned
nooo I want Froakie to be a water/dark. water/fighting sounds boring 
be fake, please.
be fake, please.
Helioptile is already bipedal. I have no idea why one would think it would evolve into quadrupedal.
I also don't understand what some people have against bipedal Pokémon btw.
Because they resemble human too much? I don't mind with bipeds like Swampert, Typhlosion, Sceptile, and Ursaring. But the likes of Lucario and Blaziken aren't just anyone taste.
Dr. Buni
Member
So what? Is that supposed to be a bad thing? We have human-like Pokémon since the original generation (Machamp, Jynx, Mr Mime and the Hitmons). I don't like Pokémon that look "too human" either (Braixen being the exception), but that characteristic isn't necessarily a bad thing.
The thing is, an Helioptile evolution would hardly look "human" just because it stand on its hind legs. Ursaring, Swampert, Empoleon, Kangaskhan, Rhyperior, Sceptile, Blastoise, Charizard, Pangoro, etc etc don't look human just because they are bipedal.
Supermanisdead
Member
wow, you can change complete outfits and skin tone in this? i thought it would just be minor customization like a hat and glasses or just clothes colour swaps. fuck. i need this.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There are different hairstyles too.
But frill lizards are often seen running on two legs.
Hey hey guys I'm not attacking Helioptile here, just answering Reila question. Actually Helioptile is on my okay list and I should write that in my post before.
Maybe I should specifically said "non-ape like that resemble human too much". Maybe to put it frankly, 'furry' Pokemon that is not into my taste.
Dr. Buni
Member
Actually, most Pokémon are "furry" regardless of being bipedal or not
I got your point though.
famfrit
Member
The point is that human shaped pokemon have is own type (FIGHTING).
We can acceptbipedal pokemon if at leat they dont look generic fighting machines.
Think about the shape of the body of bipedal pokemon, i cant see some bipedal pokemon using low kick or hi jump kick. Charizard and Dragonite are bipedal and dont have the body similar of a human being.
In other words, bipedal pokemon dont need to look to humam shaped fighting pokemon. That's the point.
Anyway, pokemon is game about monsters/creatures and we have much more quadruped animals than bipedal in nature(okay we can have more fish beings, but ignore this).
Lord_Byron28
Member
Bannette and snorunt make little sense as a fairy type. Here are the ones that I think should be fairy excluding the already confirmed ones:
Victini, Munna, Audino, whimsicott, lilligant, alomomola, mew, Bellossom, Jumpluff, Snubbul, Delibird, Miltank, Ho-oh, Celebi, Skitty, Plusle, minun, Illumise, Volbeat, Chimecho, Gorebyss, Luvdisc, Latias, Latios, Jirachi, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Cresselia, Manaphy, and Shaymin. It may seem like a lot but counting the already confirmed/rumored ones in this thread itd only be about 50 pokemon of the nearly 600. Its not a ton comparatively and it'd add a lot of variety.
Dr. Buni
Member
Psychic as well. And I am not talking about human shaped Pokémon, I am talking about bipedal Pokémon in general.
My question was: "What people have against bipedal Pokémon?" not "What people have against human shaped Pokémon?".
I honestly have no idea of why you are telling me this.
I never said they do?
Did you count the amount of bipedal and quadrupedal Pokémon? There is a massive amount of bipedal Pokémon. Read again: Bipedal Pokémon, not human shaped Pokémon. Bipedal.
famfrit
Member
Okay, i missed your point.
The answer for your question is simple: diversity of shapes.
Your question isnt right , because the majority of people dont like that much human shaped pokemon, but are fine with bipedal pokemon.
The problem is that soo much easy to GF to put a animal face in the body of a human shapped being calling it a new pokemon than create a much more diverse shapes.
In other words, we want to see more birds, fish, dogs that dont look human shaped. We want pokemon dat look like more animals than human.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Why would it be annoying? Scizor is already big in the competitive scene.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Why would snorunt make little sense as fairy type when it's based on japanese folklore?
crimsonspider89
Banned
There are plenty of good poison types. Just no reason to play them.
The Fairy change could cause more poisons to pop up.
But we already have Gengar/Venusaur/Toxicroak.
Personally, I want
Scrullipede to become OU viable this gen.
The Fairy change could cause more poisons to pop up.
But we already have Gengar/Venusaur/Toxicroak.
Personally, I want
Scrullipede to become OU viable this gen.
Dr. Buni
Member
It is okay.
But there is still a lot of diversity, it is not like every new Pokémon is bipedal. I admit there were quite a lot of bipedal Pokémon in Gen V, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Gen VI.
I don't know man (or woman?), it is not the first time I am noticing people complaining about a Pokémon's evolution being bipedal. When the starters' evolutions were revealed, a lot of people complained about Braixen and it isn't even human shaped and now they are complaining about Helioptile. I understand complains about Machamp, Gardevoir, Conkeldurr and others (although I think those human-like Pokémon have their place in the series as any other), but Braixen? Helioptile? Bah.
I do share this feeling, though I don't really want more fish-based Pokémon and I think there is already too many dogs, foxes and similar (where is the diversity?
).Hours Left
Member
Having poison moves finally be viable will be interesting.
Here here, this is a must.
And this is why the addition of Fairy type will make the meta interesting. Sure Dragons still have huge stats and wide array of moves pool as their arsenal but now they have more Pokemon that'll posed huge problem for them.
Fairy is basically the next huge change I've waited since Generation III.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Ah I for some reason thought Glalie was a dark type and thought it'd be a littke strange. I could see all or at least most pokemon in the Fairy egg group becoming fairy type since a few have already been confirmed. Perhaps not Pikachu as its a pretty big mascot and they may not want to toy with that. However I could see all of the others plus a couple of other lines and legendaries.
GiantBreadbug
Member
I was hoping that Helioptile would get a different second type. Now it's just weak to Fighting.
Valkerionseven
Member
tempted to look, going to hold out and try and be "surprised" for the pokemon until release. Only thing I need to see atm is the final evo of the starters, all the spoilers I want.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Mind you guys, humanoid mons are pretty archetypal for a mons series. Even Dragon Quest and SMT have that.
Dr. Buni
Member
I was hoping that Helioptile would get a different second type. Now it's just weak to Fighting.
At least it gets STAB from Normal moves and an immunity to Ghost.
I'm most excited to see how this change affects Poison-types that seem just outside the realm of viability. It'll be interesting to see where things like Nidoking, Roserade, and Crobat end up.
Just remember, WPM's initial source got silenced by Nintendo. I keep seeing people assume this is correct because the other stuff was.
This could be like that Minotauros thing back in 2010 where someone who had a bit of a reputation sent WPM (and myself) images and details of a biped Tauros evolution and a serpent legendary. I felt it was suspect, he posted it.
This could be like that Minotauros thing back in 2010 where someone who had a bit of a reputation sent WPM (and myself) images and details of a biped Tauros evolution and a serpent legendary. I felt it was suspect, he posted it.
Haha, yeah I remember that thing.
StreetsAhead
Member
So, what you're saying is that there's a chance this isn't real and we shouldn't get too excited until it's confirmed?
Dr. Buni
Member
Yes. Infernape is the boss. Best Fire/Fighting starter by a gigantic mile.
Exactly how I treat everything I see that isn't on Serebii.
Still, fairy Dunsparce would be awesome.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I assume this means Togekiss just got a whole lot more dangerous.
SkullplateMurray
Member
Already confirmed to be Augustine.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but you can't pick a favorite color on the 3DS like you could on DS. Unless they use your system's Mii color. Leads me to believe it's bullshit.
Monado Blade
Member
How many professors are there in this game anyway
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah this.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Why is everyone so anti-fighting? It's starting to rub off on me!
It's Pokemon people find anything to take issue with. For example people talking about humanoid like designs in the series on this page
Senator Soufflé
Member
Bunnelby evo type seems interesting, Ground would be one of my favourites. I like his design so he'll be early team definitely.
More Ghosts is great too.
More Ghosts is great too.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Figured it was something more... Technical.
Froakie is all good for me now... Maybe Chespin. Hmmmm.