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Rumour: Bayonetta 2 Cancelled
- Thread starter V_Ben
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Criminal Upper
Banned
Yeah, a fanboy for great games with great gameplay that have high review scores.
*rolls eyes*
If you're gonna troll, junior. Put some effort into it.
AcceptableGhost
Member
I still can't believe Bayonetta and Vanquish came out in the same year. A gift from the gaming gods.
lazorexplosion
Member
Yeah dude it's totally incomprehensible that people might dislike the games artstyle or cutscenes. Incomprehensible. Must call them out for being juniors and trolls, that will put them in their place. GG CONVERSATION WON.
Facism
Member
how to go from an attacking position to a defensive one in 2 posts. Clearly a lack of faith in one's own opinion.
I'm not sure what sort of meaningful conversation you were looking for with your "fanboy much?" comment.
On topic, it sucks that this rumored cancellation of a rumored game is happening. But what's worse is there likely won't be a definite answer unless Sega does something awesome and actually follows through with a sequel. If it is indeed canceled, then there won't be an official announcement because it only exists in rumored form.
Magic Mushroom
Member
Like Jon Bon Jovi, keep the faith!
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/bayonetta-dev-reignites-sequel-hopes/095304
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/bayonetta-dev-reignites-sequel-hopes/095304
Criminal Upper
Banned
It's a mystery to me as well. You mess with the bulls, you get the horns.
What is incomprehensible to me is that some people value aesthetics in an action game more than you know, how it plays. Action games are mostly about the gameplay, and...the....um, the action? Aesthetics play a role too, but saying an amazing playing game is shit because you don't like a way a character is designed is incredibly narrow-minded to me.
If you're looking for tightly-woven stories that are filled with intrigue and twists and turns, and western art direction and character design....well, you're welcome to visit the many God of War threads, or especially the DmC thread! That seems much more your speed.
pfftthehehehe
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
After giving this some thought, I'm actually totally ok with this.
Remember Bayonetta would of always remained a sega IP. it was too entrenched in sega fanservice to not to.
At some point platinum and sega would have to part ways. They would of never become an in-house studio.
This means while we don't know the ins and outs of Bayo 2, at some point if the franchise continued there would be version without platinum and most importantly Kamiya involved.
Now no offence but would you trust SEGA to do the IP justice? I'd rather Bayonetta leave as one the greatest action games of all time, than to reduced to bullet witch 2 by its second or third entry.
Likewise, remember how much content was in Bayo 1, do you think a publisher is going to miss the opportunity to milk the fanbase by withholding content again?
And lasty, do you feel that kamiya is that limited that he cannot make another breakout IP again? Look at his track record. He is far from a one hit wonder. Long as he is still making games, we will be ok.
Remember Bayonetta would of always remained a sega IP. it was too entrenched in sega fanservice to not to.
At some point platinum and sega would have to part ways. They would of never become an in-house studio.
This means while we don't know the ins and outs of Bayo 2, at some point if the franchise continued there would be version without platinum and most importantly Kamiya involved.
Now no offence but would you trust SEGA to do the IP justice? I'd rather Bayonetta leave as one the greatest action games of all time, than to reduced to bullet witch 2 by its second or third entry.
Likewise, remember how much content was in Bayo 1, do you think a publisher is going to miss the opportunity to milk the fanbase by withholding content again?
And lasty, do you feel that kamiya is that limited that he cannot make another breakout IP again? Look at his track record. He is far from a one hit wonder. Long as he is still making games, we will be ok.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Yeah, that's not the point. I loved Bayonetta as a Character that's why it's so sad. Of course Kamiya can work on whatever he wants and it might turn out to be awesome, no doubt.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
"Next week's games magazines" is my latest, favourite version of "when it's done".
Criminal Upper
Banned
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I do too but let be honest, outside of prequels, there isn't much you can do character development wise once you get powerful enough to punch god into the sun.
lazorexplosion
Member
Your immediate response to my 1st post in this thread was to imply that i was not only not serious in my opinion but also possibly not human. That was your goddam response. Yeah. Real.
And did I say it was "shit" purely due to the character design and despite its gameplay? Hmmm. No, I didn't. Yet you manage to now attribute that opinion to me and then condemn me as narrow minded for the straw man of your own creation. Woooooo.
Maybe, just maybe if, instead of making a sequel to Bayonetta, they put their good gameplay in a new IP where the cutscenes aren't pure bullshit and a net liability to the likeability of the game and the visual design isn't a turn off for a large section of their potential audience they might find some widespread success instead of niche sales. Maybe that might be much better than making a sequel to a game that sold mediocre numbers despite its good gameplay, maybe, just maybe, because many people didn't like the games visual design and storytelling.
Criminal Upper
Banned
It really sucks if Bayonetta 2 was indeed cancelled.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Considering how untrustworthy a source that website is I severely doubt its been cancelled, also considering that Platinum are working on MGS:Revengence I doubt that they're in all that much trouble even if sega are. If sega has dropped bayonetta, considering its popularity I wouldn't be surprised if another publisher jumps in
Riposte
Member
I was more or less under the assumption Bayonetta could have done that from the start.
EDIT: Actually nevermind... she was getting more powerful wasn't she? The whole
time travel thing
Criminal Upper
Banned
Hahah, me too. She was just never given the opportunity beforehand.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Kamiya does the games he likes, not the ones who sell. And that's why we love them so much. If I wanted to play a game with more appeal to a wider audience I'd play some western game.
While true, Sega owns the IP not PG.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Then what the fuck are you in here for?
Now this is a proper way to make a counter argument. And I do agree. Look what happened to DMC after Hideki Kamiya left.
I can't help but feel making a game specifically to appeal to a wide demographic, as opposed to what the designers feel is amusing or cool, is losing somehow. It's not like B is some multi-billion dollar behamoth that absolutely needs to sell bajillions to earn its operating budget back.
Well if they're in as much trouble as some people in this thread think it wouldn't be that far-fetched for them to sell the rights to the IP, it wouldn't be the first time a publisher sold its IP rights when in severe financial trouble.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
DMC3? I thought that turned out pretty fine
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Refering to DMC2. And we shall never EVER speak of it again
Stealth edit: Damn you Vilix.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"DMC2"? What the fuck are guys even talking about? Everybody knows Capcom misnumbered from 1 to 3 with DMC and everybody just rolled with it.
kurtrussell
Banned
You mean like DmC?
Criminal Upper
Banned
Let's talk about it very briefly. Wasn't everyone on the staff of DMC2 the same staff that went on to make DMC3? I always remember hearing how DMC2 started off as a completely different project, and they decided to turn it into a sequel at the last second.
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Vilix
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
I never heard of that for *cough*DMC2*cough*. However, DMC did originally start out as Resident Evil 4. It was a radical departure in gaming mechanics and story. So much so that it was better to make it a whole new game.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
That's right. Also kamiya hadn't left Capcom then, he was just busy with another title. But instead of waiting for kamiya finishing it and work on DMC2, Capcom wanted to milk the franchise as fast as possible.
Seraphinianus
Banned
i don't know. I keep seeing all this talk of DMC2 and NG3...not sure what people are talking about.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Kamiya is Xenu-Level troll.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Yeah. Although it was never explained if she did that final summon by herself (it's supposed to kill outright any
Witch that tries) or did Jeanne help her off screen. You see white hair mix with black but that doesn't change the fact that just performing the summon alone should have killed Bayo.
The other guy did use the bullshit junior statement, I can't blame him for being mad. It's amazing that mods let people still use that insult.
CrazyArcadia
Member
Some of the comments crack me up. Dantes Inferno novel tie-in 
Modern Warfare sales comparison Nice going, even though I'm not sure if these are ironic statements from neutral parties (I believe so), serious answers from anti-Bayonetta-forces (hey I know people who disliked that game personally. As much as I love Bayonetta, it just wasn't for everybody) or Bayonetta-hardcore fanboys who are losing it and now become crazy (then they'd need help). But who knows, even the staff at Platinum is trolling around. Maybe they post here, as well?
Whatever, as sad as this topic is, the thread itself is highly amusing at this point.
Modern Warfare sales comparison Nice going, even though I'm not sure if these are ironic statements from neutral parties (I believe so), serious answers from anti-Bayonetta-forces (hey I know people who disliked that game personally. As much as I love Bayonetta, it just wasn't for everybody) or Bayonetta-hardcore fanboys who are losing it and now become crazy (then they'd need help). But who knows, even the staff at Platinum is trolling around. Maybe they post here, as well?Whatever, as sad as this topic is, the thread itself is highly amusing at this point.
Magic Mushroom
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Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
JP is posting here from time to time.
ShockingAlberto
Member
They're not in danger of dying, but they are clearly trying to cut and limit their losses.
This is easily researchable.
CambriaRising
Member
This can't be happening.
Takamura-San
Member
Same thing i was thinking kamiya.