Kids.
GTAO is the game they can play ad vitam eternam while chatting with their friends about whatever.
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[RUMOUR] GTA Single player DLC has been replaced with online map expansions model.
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Kids.
GTAO is the game they can play ad vitam eternam while chatting with their friends about whatever.
matrix-cat
Member
That is so depressing. I would happily buy all of that for singleplayer, but GTA Online is just such a miserable experience that I'm not even interested.
Seems like a pretty dubious leak, but certainly not impossible to believe. But...
I know! Every single time I try to play GTAO I get frustrated and bored half an hour in and give it up for a few months. Trying to play with my friends/family is a struggle of epic proportions and then, when I'm magically able to join the same session as 2 of my brothers (sorry whoever can't connect this time!) it's loading screen after loading screen while we spend another 10 minutes trying to figure out why someone dropped off.
I know! Every single time I try to play GTAO I get frustrated and bored half an hour in and give it up for a few months. Trying to play with my friends/family is a struggle of epic proportions and then, when I'm magically able to join the same session as 2 of my brothers (sorry whoever can't connect this time!) it's loading screen after loading screen while we spend another 10 minutes trying to figure out why someone dropped off.
I just remember getting kicked out of lobbies a lot. After the third straight time I was kicked out (I assume because of my ranking, who knows), I gave up.
The Albatross
Member
I generally keep all GTA leaks with a grain of salt. If you google "GTA Leak" or "GTAVI Rumors" it's all complete crap. Hundreds of videos of "Extreme leaker and hacker xXSandyBoy69xXNinja found this info in the .BAT files which proves Liberty CIty is coming to GTA Online!" and it's a 11 minute video that shows one line of dialog that mentions Liberty City.
But ... This seems to be the case already. Rockstar, in interviews, said multiple times that they'd be releasing more single player content in Los Santos, and that has been thoroughly abandoned in favor of the walled garden GTA Online approach, which has made them more money at less cost. It's frustrating as a person who really enjoys the GTA V single player world over the GTA Online world, but it's just business. GTA Online prints money for Rockstar at such little development cost that it's just too obvious.
GTA V's Los Santos is going to go down in history for me as such an untapped potential for great story telling that Rockstar abandoned in favor of selling under carriage lights for $75,000gta or $1.25 US.
THat said what's been detailed in the OP is obviously not real. It's a wishlist of features from the community.
But ... This seems to be the case already. Rockstar, in interviews, said multiple times that they'd be releasing more single player content in Los Santos, and that has been thoroughly abandoned in favor of the walled garden GTA Online approach, which has made them more money at less cost. It's frustrating as a person who really enjoys the GTA V single player world over the GTA Online world, but it's just business. GTA Online prints money for Rockstar at such little development cost that it's just too obvious.
GTA V's Los Santos is going to go down in history for me as such an untapped potential for great story telling that Rockstar abandoned in favor of selling under carriage lights for $75,000gta or $1.25 US.
THat said what's been detailed in the OP is obviously not real. It's a wishlist of features from the community.
Rellik
Member
DarkLordMalik
Member
That's true. It sucks that we have to wait so long, especially for heists.
valkillmore
Member
Fucking A right on. Give me more GTA Online fuckery. Bring it. I'm down.
I love GTA Online. Not really a fan of the single player campaign to be honest, I've played & had far more fun online than I did in single player. This news, should it be real, is exactly what I hoped for and I couldn't be more excited.
I love GTA Online. Not really a fan of the single player campaign to be honest, I've played & had far more fun online than I did in single player. This news, should it be real, is exactly what I hoped for and I couldn't be more excited.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Kind of disappointing, but at the same time, I'm totally fine with more GTAO. Keep it coming R*.
RamaTheVoice
Member
As someone who bought and enjoyed all the SP DLOC for GTAIV, this bums me right the hell out. I loved GTAV and couldn't wait for some more stories in that world.
Eh. 60% of it was loading, then the rest was waiting for other people to reject the activity.
AuthenticM
Member
I would have been OK with it if they had sacrificed development time for singleplayer DLC in order to overhaul GTAO to make it nigh-on impossible to hack into without serious consequences (Like Steam's VAC), but this current decision sucks. You will not find a server on the PC version that doesn't have at least one hacker in it and Rockstar doesn't give one.
Baron Von Beans
Member
This may be too little too late, but when trying to play with others specifically, try creating either a friends only, crew only, or invite only lobby. The world loads in a fraction of the time, and you can easily invite your friends in.
2002whitegt
Member
I still play GTA online from time to time with my brother and a friend. Sorry for this guys.
Although I don't buy shark cards. Would never do that.
Although I don't buy shark cards. Would never do that.
Well considering we are in YEAR THREE of having no single player expansion, I can't say I'm surprised.
Though GTAV's map was basically designed with a heavy emphasis on Online. Places like the military base or prison have almost no presence in the single player game, yet are focused upon in the online portion.
I enjoyed what I played of GTA Online, but everything was just too slow and laggy. Maybe they fixed it from the PC launch, but it took FOREVER to load into the game, FOREVER to find people, FOREVER to actually load the mission and then it ends when some idiot dies and the loading cycle commences.
I don't even know what RDR Online is going to consist of. "Yeah man, check out my new HORSE. It's tan with white spots."
Though GTAV's map was basically designed with a heavy emphasis on Online. Places like the military base or prison have almost no presence in the single player game, yet are focused upon in the online portion.
I enjoyed what I played of GTA Online, but everything was just too slow and laggy. Maybe they fixed it from the PC launch, but it took FOREVER to load into the game, FOREVER to find people, FOREVER to actually load the mission and then it ends when some idiot dies and the loading cycle commences.
I don't even know what RDR Online is going to consist of. "Yeah man, check out my new HORSE. It's tan with white spots."
Sword Of Doom
Member
Not a surprise but it really sucks.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Sounds like a wish list of a kid who plays GTA Online a bit too much.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Red Dead Online is going to be the same fucking garbage. Terrible shame considering how freaking good and innovative Red Dead Redemption's online was.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Smells like bullshit but fantastic if true!
Business
Member
Yeah GTA IV and RDR single player DLCs were DLC done right. A shame.
It sounds logistically insane, too, really. You think of how much GTAV's San Andreas has been utilised with missions, being economical with assets.
They cannot simply import GTA IV's world over. And even if they could, it'd still need huge amount of busy-work just to get it looking even remotely as busy as Los Santos.
That's before even adding anything for players to do.
How gullible are you, OP?
Rellik
Member
I mean, is anyone really shocked or surprised? GTA Online has slowly but surely replacing the "core" GTA experience since the launch problems were fixed and its generating them a TON of money.
I doubt anyone would be surprised at no single player DLC, just disappointed.
That's the scary part for me at least. Not big on the multiplayer aspect and always loved R* single payer stuff. Oh well shit. They really could of still released single player Dlc considering the $$$ that was made for online. Guess it's a business at the end of the day lol.
Dezcom
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if the adoption of GTAO's model was the only way RDR2 was greenlit in the first place.
Kacho
Member
"The games vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience."
Buckle up
SJRB
Gold Member
If you're gonna dole out map packs for full 60 dollar pricing, what is the point of making it online only, anyway? I mean, the geometry and stuff is all there, from a level design perspective there's no reason to not make it accessible in singleplayer. All you do is cut off people who are not interested in the online portion.
This makes no sense.
This makes no sense.
Graphics Horse
Member
I can believe it.
The Albatross
Member
As others have said, I doubt this is the case, especially the mention of Vice CIty or future map expansions being online only. I believe that Single Player DLC plans for GTAV were shelved in favor of crappy content packs for GTA Online, but Rockstar isn't stupid enough to abandon a huge percentage of their player base by making Vice City or Liberty City online-only, without implementing a significant single-player (or solo connected) component to it. GTA Online is already prohibitive to new players joining. If you're starting out in GTA Online, the first 10 - 20 hours are terrible for you... THere's no real tutorial, nothing works (the tutorial race doesn't work because there's no other players to start it with you), everything is a mystery, and then you just get pinged endlessly for features that aren't even available to your character. "Hey upgrade your low-rider at Bennys!" Well, a Low-rider costs $300,000 and upgrades cost $50,000/each, which no new player will ever have enough money for.
So if R* released big map expansions that were only for Online players, they're not going to get very many new players. GTA Online is prohibitive for new players.
This. I've played a fair amount of GTA Online... Level 80 or 85 or so, and I don't grind or anything like that. The experience is similar to this for basically anybody. Trying to coordinate things with friends was always flummoxed by bugs, glitches, connection issues. You'd play a "job" together which would take 5 minutes of loading, only to be split up into other lobbies. You'd finally get into a lobby again toegther and suddenyl everybody would drop from one player's lobby, and he'd have to reconnect to join his friends, etc.
These problems are still prevalent in the game. I've never played 2-3 hours of GTA Online with a friend without something like this happening.
They never introduced a true party system to the game where you could play modes with other people. Virtually every job is empty unless it's a featured (2x RP or 2x money) job. Any time you do get into a game with 8 or so people, usually somebody drops, OR the game launches and every random person switches to 1 team so it ends up being 7 vs. 1, and people are doing that just to farm money.
Even if you do successfully get a 4 vs 4 game, the likelihood someone drops, and then someone switches teams, etc., is so high. I don't think i've ever seen multiple balanced matches before one after the other. And, eventually, your room just votes in a grinding race.
So if R* released big map expansions that were only for Online players, they're not going to get very many new players. GTA Online is prohibitive for new players.
This. I've played a fair amount of GTA Online... Level 80 or 85 or so, and I don't grind or anything like that. The experience is similar to this for basically anybody. Trying to coordinate things with friends was always flummoxed by bugs, glitches, connection issues. You'd play a "job" together which would take 5 minutes of loading, only to be split up into other lobbies. You'd finally get into a lobby again toegther and suddenyl everybody would drop from one player's lobby, and he'd have to reconnect to join his friends, etc.
These problems are still prevalent in the game. I've never played 2-3 hours of GTA Online with a friend without something like this happening.
They never introduced a true party system to the game where you could play modes with other people. Virtually every job is empty unless it's a featured (2x RP or 2x money) job. Any time you do get into a game with 8 or so people, usually somebody drops, OR the game launches and every random person switches to 1 team so it ends up being 7 vs. 1, and people are doing that just to farm money.
Even if you do successfully get a 4 vs 4 game, the likelihood someone drops, and then someone switches teams, etc., is so high. I don't think i've ever seen multiple balanced matches before one after the other. And, eventually, your room just votes in a grinding race.