Patrick S.
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Fuck, this is like straight out of Killzone...
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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Fuck, this is like straight out of Killzone...
NoLootBoxDev
Member
I want to know statistics:
Maybe they should return them with a broken leg. This way they can relax at home instead of being sent right away to the meat grinder
Maybe they should return them with a broken leg. This way they can relax at home instead of being sent right away to the meat grinder
akimbo009
Gold Member
That's not anyone in this thread, that's Putin.
It’s btw exactly what Russian war strategists of Russia are doing .. probably even on a table .
Actually, Hittler has numerous appearances like this … so it’s not even from video games , even more scary .
NoLootBoxDev
Member
Georgians React To MASSIVE Russian Immigration to Georgia
youtu.be/o8Xp_H...
It was interesting to watch.
ItsGreat
Member
This isn't something I'd expect the Russians to admit. It sounds a little off.
What with Kadyrov talking about the use of low-yield nukes. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to blast their own - after saying that they had withdrawn for the families back home.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Ukrainian Army is riding on a huge momentum wave - reportedly they're on the way to Kreminna now.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Would love this to be another major counter offensive in response to Putin’s annexation announcement.
akimbo009
Gold Member
It is actually happening - there's a few other locations they have already push towards. Could be just testing the lines, but you know... When you're cutting through butter it's hard to stop.
nemiroff
Gold Member
NATO has spoken: They'll send troops into Ukraine if that happens, and it could lead to an escalation threatening the existence of ruzzia.
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NoLootBoxDev
Member
Just in case its a joke.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Whoever's running that account, is having a lot of fun.
ItsGreat
Member
I think there could be a small amount of the old 'he might be a son of bitch, but he's our son of bitch' style thinking going on.
There's still a lot of dangerous weapon type stuff floating around in Russia that needs to be in 'safe hands'.
The CIA will have to have someone they can 'trust'
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
You mean the FSB
nemiroff
Gold Member
IDK for sure, but unfortunately it appears it was an aircraft overshooting the runway (ignore the title, it's most likely not correct):
Anyway:
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They won’t do that , you can’t expect anything like that from the Russian population. Sadly .
NoLootBoxDev
Member
ItsGreat
Member
It would be amazing if Ukraine could put Russia in its place. Knock it down more than a peg or two.
But I don't want to see what happens when push comes to shove from the Russians.
Kenpachii
Member
akimbo009
Gold Member
Pretty fucking sure they already knocked Russia down a peg or 10.
funkygunther
Banned
It's already come to shove. It's why Putin rushed through the annexation despite not actually having control of those territories.
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Susurrus
Member
He said "old world" in that video, so he clearly wants to wipe out Russia.
So they're taking themselves out. Saves Ukrainian troops some effort.
funkygunther
Banned
DaleinCalgary
Member
hopefully they have lots of quality winter gear coming soon. The Russians are going to have a miserable winter.
akimbo009
Gold Member
It really is shocking. In general, at least for me, if I hear of a skirmish Americans are in and 5-10 soliders die it's a big shocking deal. While Russia isn't at the same level militarily there was some assumptions they were more modern and death rates similar to the US would be seen - not 500 a day or 3k in a single battle. These are huge, emotionally scarring casualty numbers. If the US lost even half these numbers it'd be earth shattering.... But for Russia it's just another day.
That's the thing I don't get about the internal politics of Russia.
It seems like Putin has an iron grip on power and can do whatever he wants, yet from the very start he has been trying to run this whole operation on the cheap to not ruffle any feathers.
First it was going in with a skeleton crew when any competent military commander could have seen that an operation at the scale of Russia's initial ambitions needed at least a million troops, not ~150k combat troops. Then there is the delaying mobilization until past the point it can realistically do the most good(as he's already deployed the trainers who would be needed to actually maker a mobilization successful). Then there is the whole refusing to call a spade a spade and actually declare a war. What is the benefit of the 'special military operation' farce at this point?
I don't get it at all, is he really this strategically inept or is there some line that he is justifiably afraid of crossing that explains why he refuses to do what needs to be done(from his strategic point of view anyway). I mean if his only goal is to eliminate ethnic minorities from the hinterlands of Russia, what he is doing would make some sense. If he had any plans on actually achieving any of his stated strategic goals, feeding a bunch of ethnic minorities and the lower classes into the meat grinder isn't going to accomplish any of them.
Who is he so afraid of pissing off that he is refusing to impose any real costs on the Russian population for the war.
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ThatStupidLion
Member
Now imagine what china is/can do.
NoLootBoxDev
Member
First Putler is no strategist, only a mob placed in a high position due to corruption. The war cost money, sanctions everywhere, and isolated Russia. Now if he wants things too late, it could cost billions and their country is running out of money.
He wanted to be a hero, remembered by generations as the one who recovered part of the USSR. His own military lied to him because giving him a "are you stupid" wasn't going to cut it. (there was an article about that).
He does not have a future, it is a matter of time before this ends for him, but the issue is "how it ends for the rest".
"why he refuses to do what needs to be done(from his strategic point of view anyway)"
Which army? He only has idiots, corrupt people who are "yes man". For him to go with a "Full mobilization", it could take time (who knows how many months "someone mentioned for a tank crew it can take around 5 months of training") to get them ready, the training, getting equipment, getting ammunition and he does not have any of that, and much more difficult at this point in the war.
Everything is bad, tampons? women's pads? food that has to be delivered by their families? not getting even a rifle? (since the Ruzzian army does not have that many). Hell, a group was given only bullets. This is a mess he is going to lose one way or another.
Why can't they just surrender? (Rhetorical question asked in frustration, all it aimed at Putin/Russian leadership)
I know a lot here just say kill me all, but we're the good guys, we value life, mercy is a virtue, and I don't enjoy hearing about all these deaths, makes me sick that putin and Russia value their own sons so little.
I know that Russian crimes are grotesque, but the Ukrainians need to show them how men behave, take prisoners treat them humanely. Give fair trials to those accused of crimes. I see posts calling for immediate punishment, willing total annihilation. Guys let's not let the Russians barbarism whip us into a cruel frenzy, we're better than that. The Ukrainians are better than that. Everyone can change, there are monsters in everyone's past don't go back there and at the same time hope that the Russian can leave that in the past.
Now don't get me wrong, if Russia and Russians force the Ukrainians to kill every single Russian soldier in their boarders to achieve total restoration of Ukrainian boarder, I place 0 blame on the Ukrainians, but I'm not going to revel in it.
(Oligarchs or Russian leadership being accidented to death, thats different, they made a deal with the devil and got burnt, thats still a laugh)
Tams
Member
What makes you think that the Ukrainians aren't taking POWs? It's literally been in the news about Lyman.
But you can't expect the Ukrainians to risk their own lives for it. If it's safe to take POWs, then yes, they absolutely should. But that empathy can and is very easily abused. And if there is a choice between rendering medical aid to a Ukrainian or a Russian, then the Ukrainian should take precedence.
Not that it's necessarily easy to surrender. You either need to sneak out (risky, as both sides will shoot at you), or most of your unit need to agree to surrender and then not get attacked by your own side. Somehow, you need to get into view of the enemy, clearly abandon your weapons and ideally get on the ground face down with your hands on your head.
I don't doubt the Ukrainians are taking pows, they are,thats not what I was posting about. I'm finding the low surrender rate by Russians mind boggling, but some of the posters here that are actually suggesting not to give a chance to surrender, or mistreating pows, or the madness of kill every Russian like those people need to step back and remember its important that responding to cruelty with cruelty only perpetuates itself and nothing demonstrates strength like mercy and magnanimity.
NoLootBoxDev
Member
It's simple, they do not know better. They believe if they surrender they will have their balls cut off (they do it to Ukraine prisoners, not the other way around) talk about projection. Then if they surrender, their dear leader will place them in jail (was it 10 years?), then run or anything similar "shoot by their commander" or the goat fuckers of Kadirov.
Should I feel bad they do not do it? No, sorry but they are pretty much "chanting genocide", raping women/children, or taking them to be brainwashed. Those in the army could have at any time said "fuck this shit" and die freeing their country of the corrupt leaders, but you see them going as meat shields. Even then, there could be fewer Russians dead by now if they did it before.
When it started, they were happy and proud they were fighting their "imaginary enemy", now that they are forced to go to the real war, they are leaving like rats, because they are not against the war or killing people, but because they have to fight the war themselves.
NoLootBoxDev
Member
From what I understood in other forums the guy is missing, supposed Putler wanted to torture him personally.
I guess?
Ironbunny
Member
"The Putins returned to Leningrad. They carried a 20-year-old washing machine given to them by their former neighbors and a sum of money in U.S. dollars, sufficient to buy the best Soviet-made car available. This was all they had to show for four and a half years of living abroad—and for Vladimir Putin's unconsummated spy career. The four of them would be returning to the smaller of the two rooms in the elder Putins' apartment."
https://www.newsweek.com/portrait-young-vladimir-putin-65739
akimbo009
Gold Member
If you're daughter or mother got raped while your brother or father watched I don't think you'd be so magnanimous. Or if your best friend got blown up by a missile while in a van in a civilian convoy leaving the war zone... Or your brother having his balls cut off while being tortured while in POW custody.
Mercy demands context, and justice. Let Ukraine kill until they have the context to provide mercy - not a second less.
akimbo009
Gold Member
Also, you only have sympathy for the orcs when they are losing... Where did the sympathy for the actual victims here - the Ukrainians. When they are dropping thermite and conducting indiscriminate bombing on cities... My points been made, but it's insane to me people suddenly what peace and mercy when the criminals finally get what was coming.
Edit: oh, yeah, dead bodies in this video - mostly Ukrainians.
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Mokus
Member
True orc chieftain.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
As expected, Kreminna is being hit by artillery and mortars.