eddie4
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True, but they're not shitty mobile games. Also, thousands of people buy games that are $1-10 for mobile phones, on top of what they already paid for the phone.
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RuthenicCookie who broke news of Sony not going to E3 says PS5 is a Monster (Details inside)
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True, but they're not shitty mobile games. Also, thousands of people buy games that are $1-10 for mobile phones, on top of what they already paid for the phone.
Thiagosc777
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He said "march or november". Why would Sony release a console in March? So they kill their own sales for christmas? Anyone can guess that the next generation systems will come out in 2020, you don't need to be an insider to say that.
This is obviously fake.
Frank Spencer
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March 2020 then a massive E3 2020 blow out vs whatever Xbox is coming.
Either way E3 2020 is going to be so fucking good.
Either way E3 2020 is going to be so fucking good.
Wolfgang Jr
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It's 2018, people are stupid enough to buy $1500 phones ffs, a $500 console is nothing.
bitbydeath
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You realise this is the same person (even the same thread) that predicted Sony will announce the next day that Sony will skip E3 2019 and was 100% right, right?
That’s not something you can just guess, the person obviously has a legit contact which makes the rest of the information very possible.
Kill? If they believe in their console March would be perfect to get it hyped up. A launch console will always be limited in terms of sales due to production shortages. If they however start selling in march they have a much longer time to prepare for a monster Holiday season.
Insane Metal
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4K/60 is a reality... in some games. If you consider that as a whole for the console, then nope.
I'm ok with 500$ as long as it is a nice hardware and not a laptop cpu like this gen.
I'm ok with 500$ as long as it is a nice hardware and not a laptop cpu like this gen.
GenericUser
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Like as if 500 bucks is an insane amount of money. I'd be surprised if it's just 500 tbh.
nowhat
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IKR - just look at the Switch. Released in March, it was a complete failure.
(or perhaps, since there will be supply shortages at first, releasing in March could satisfy the enthusiast market, while preparing for the mass-market during the holiday season)
Thiagosc777
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The Switch followed a failed console nobody cared about. I think Sony fans are in denial. They won't show up, simply because they have nothing to show. There's no "major announcement" happening any time soon.
bitbydeath
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It says literally that in the OP (if you would read it) that they’re not showing up because they have little to show for E3.
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they have however showing Death stranding for example as cross gen game would be fucking huge. And they can gather way more people for a single event. Like Apple does for example. n meeting was a huge success and now combine it with a PSX in which you maybe can even tr out the PS5 would be insane.
HeresJohnny
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Apple has cut production of the new iPhone and forecasts have been downgraded.
But again, phones and consoles are nowhere near similar. One is a status symbol for everyone, while the other is a status symbol for nerds. One goes with you everywhere and is responsible for keeping you connected to friends and family while the other sits in a basement and disconnects you from friends and family. What drives one to buy a phone versus a console is nowhere near the same impetus.
The “well if someone has $1500 for a phone they have $500 for a games console” argument is patently absurd. It’s like arguing that if someone buys a house for $300 grand then they obviously can afford a Ferrari.
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nowhat
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Uhh, yeah? I don't think anyone is disputing this. They've pretty much laid out the plan for the coming year, we know the titles that should appear. And since even Sony (hopefully?) wouldn't be as braindead as to steal its own thunder, they will be released next year, without any hardware announcements. Or hardware releases, rather, there may be announcements.
That still doesn't explain why launching in March would be a bad idea. As said, supplies will be constrained at first, so why not release early for the type of people who'd get it on day 1, and by the holiday season Joe Average can get it easily too.
Thiagosc777
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The problem is that PSX would disencourage people from spending money on the PS4 during christmas, because they'd want to save it for the PS5. Even if they don't announce it at E3, they must at least show it there, so the press and the fans can see it in action and new games for it.
Sony will have Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima I think this will be enough for the holiday season. You can not break records each year but you need a phase to prepare for the next gen.
Having not a stellar holiday will help with the pre production of the PS5 IMO.
Also showing it at PSX is also a huge blow for journalists which barely did attend PSX because there are no special times reserved for them. Which I personally think is great.
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mitchman
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Adjusted for US inflation, the launch price of the PS4 is roughly USD $440 in 2020 prices, so USD $500 is not that much higher considering it will have a custom chip to handle the VR split image stuff and extra inputs. We can't expect the same price forever, inflation will eventually push prices up.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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JimmyRustler
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Does it really matter when they release it? The PS5 will be sold out for some time regardless of when it hits the shelves. At least in March it'll be a bit easier for them to re-supply.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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My guess: Bloodborne 2
Nah i will be 499 Euro as well. There is no way they are going for 600 Euro if the base one is 500$. They are not apple.Americans don‘t have hidden taxes in their retail prices like socialist europe does. This will rather translate to 600 EUR. And I‘d be totally fine with that price if I‘m getting a Ryzen 2 4K „Monster“
Exclusive Final Fantasy or Marvel Avengers^^
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Thiagosc777
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Final Fantasy will never be exclusive again.
Depends how much Money Sony want to spend and if its the only next gen console it could be the case^^
Silent Duck
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The main event will be the announcement that Final Fantasy 7 Remake will be cancelled.
Now a PS6, Xbox Two, Nintendo Switch U, and Ouya 9000 release. With PS6 getting early access to DLC one day prior to the other consoles. Sony wins!
nani17
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I agree I see the remake being a timed exclusive
TeamGhobad
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11 tflops and ryzen gen 1 cpu for 2020 is freaking weaksauce if u ask me. and that at 500dollars.
Whitecrow
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There will be more to the 500$ price point than that.
Elenchus
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This. If Square is making an exclusive for PS5, its probably new IP. Sony's exclusivity grip on Final Fantasy is as dead as fried chicken.
https://gamerant.com/final-fantasy-7-xbox-one/
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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It's some kind of monsteeeeeeeer!
Some kind of monsteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!
Some KIND of monsteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!
This monster lives!
Some kind of monsteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!
Some KIND of monsteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!
This monster lives!
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DreamsiclesPlz
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I don't care about it being a graphics monster, I have a PC. I just want solid BC and 4k media support.
Also as someone else posted, if game companies keep selling physical games that require you to download half of them, I might just give up on major consoles all together.
I'm often feel like I'm the only person on earth who liked that album lol.
Also as someone else posted, if game companies keep selling physical games that require you to download half of them, I might just give up on major consoles all together.
I'm often feel like I'm the only person on earth who liked that album lol.
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Kazza
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It has to be some kind of exclusive title, right? As great as I'm sure TLOU2 and Ghosts of Tsushima will be, a console launch with ports/simultaneous releases of previous gen software would be a little underwhelming, and wouldn't offer much beyond hardcore fans. Knack 3 it is then!
If TLOU2 etc will be 4K checkerboard (at least) 30fps with those crappy Jaguar processors, then I'm sure the PS5 can up the framerate to 60 and the resolution to a true 4K. I suspect that true next-gen titles will be another matter entirely (likely back down to 30 fps with fancier graphics).
If it does end up releasing in Nov 2020, then you only have to save $5 a week until then (or a cup of coffee). Not such a big deal. Since it seems there are going to be a lot of PS4/PS5 cross-gen titles, I don't think there's any need to rush to buy it anyway. Your PS4 will be well-supported for at least 2021.
I really hope Sony sorts this out. Whatever mistakes Microsoft may have made this gen, at least their hardware design of the last 2 years have been top notch.
Actually, 50% sounds like a pretty large proportion to me. Does anyone know what percentage of people owned a HD TV when the Xbox 360 launched back in 2005? IT'd make an interesting comparison.
DreamsiclesPlz
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I played Horizon on my Pro, I don't remember it looking like ass. Was quite impressive for a console tbh.
JLMC469
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DreamsiclesPlz
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You're right. The coffee hasn't kicked in lmao. My bad.Horizon isn’t 4k nor 60 fps though
JLMC469
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nowhat
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As far as tech goes, its great. The environments/weather effects are just amazing. I spent so many moments staring at sunrise/sunset (hint to RDR2, you are doing it way too quickly). And while output is 2160c (i.e. 4K checkerboarded), for the most part it looks really crisp. There are some issues (like individual strands of hair against a heavily out-of-focus background) inherent with the process, but otherwise, it looks fantastic.
But while the motion blur implementation is good and helps to "soften the blow", so to speak, you missed a key element in the bit you quoted, which is "60fps", and which HZD is not. Personally, I'd take 2160c + 60fps any day, as opposed to native 2160p + 30fps.
DreamsiclesPlz
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TeamGhobad
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if i remember correctly it was about 30%. but those are % that would ever buy a console to begin with.
JareBear: Remastered
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I think we get caught up in semantics sometimes.
Yes, 4K/60 has already been achieved on both X and Pro in certain games. I don’t think that’s the point.
I think when people tag next gen consoles as 4K/60 it’s talking about a promise of uncompromising native 4K and locked 60fps system wide, across the whole library.
(I’m not saying I expect either next gen console to pull this off. I’m just saying that’s the point of the tagline)
I’m not sure why it keeps getting pointed out that 4K/60 has already been done in some cases on X and Pro.
Yes, 4K/60 has already been achieved on both X and Pro in certain games. I don’t think that’s the point.
I think when people tag next gen consoles as 4K/60 it’s talking about a promise of uncompromising native 4K and locked 60fps system wide, across the whole library.
(I’m not saying I expect either next gen console to pull this off. I’m just saying that’s the point of the tagline)
I’m not sure why it keeps getting pointed out that 4K/60 has already been done in some cases on X and Pro.
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TeamGhobad
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will it run CP2077 4K60? thats the real litmus test.
Kagero
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It's all a red herring.
My sauces tell me that Cyberpunk 2077 will run at native 4k 59fps on PS5 and reserve true 4k 60fps+ for the PC elitists to justify their $3000 gaming rig and lack of any real human contact.
The above text is a joke. Please take it as such.
Noctis114
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The most likely time for an announcement would be PSX 2019, given that December 2019 marks the 25th anniversary of the PlayStation brand, so what better way to celebrate 25th years of PlayStation then announcing a new console?
And about the pricing, regardless of what we feel about $500, the only was that this would be a bad thing for Sony is if Microsoft comes out and says that the Xbox Scarlett will be $100 cheaper, otherwise this would not affecting the PS5's sales.
And about the pricing, regardless of what we feel about $500, the only was that this would be a bad thing for Sony is if Microsoft comes out and says that the Xbox Scarlett will be $100 cheaper, otherwise this would not affecting the PS5's sales.
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