- Bayonetta
- Ryu
- Cloud
- Corrin
- Mewtwo
- Lucas
- Roy
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Sakurai's Famitsu Column: Bayonetta, Corrin, Development Ended
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SenorArdilla
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NinjaCoachZ
Member
IMO Cloud, Corrin, Bayonetta, and Ryu are all by far the most fun and you can't go wrong with any of them. Lucas is a personal favourite though he may not be for everyone. Mewtwo is probably the one I come back to least unfortunately.
Corrin > Bayonetta > Cloud > Roy > Lucas > Mewtwo > Ryu
In terms of inventiveness(ie: freshness of moveset, how unique they are, etc) i'd probably go
Bayonetta > Cloud > Ryu > Corrin > Roy > Mewtwo > Lucas
Hecatonchires Custom
Member
Best part is playing them on the Miiverse stage and seeing all the bitching and crying from the salty fanboys.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I found those salty messages hilarious.. MY favorite is TOO MANY NINTENDO CHARACTERS! I know it was satire post but it made me laughs every time I see it.
TheDinoman
Member
In this regard, why exactly is Roy ahead of Mewtwo? Mewtwo is a fully original character while Roy is obviously based on Marth.
Mewtwo's moveset was unchanged, whereas Roy got several changes that made revisiting the character worthwhile
Though I suppose that applies to Mewtwo after it got those buffs, haha
Ehh, PM being patched to infinity was one of my problems with the game. I feel like player-made patches would be overkill and try to fix every little thing.
I like the way Ninty patches Smash 4, I just wish there was a couple more to fix Jiggs and Samus.
Thank you. Especially for that music. I didn't realize she had so many terribly disjointed hitboxes. My friend really understands her spacing, I guess.
The Xtortionist
Member
So...Corrin's counter...won't get nerfed...?
I think people are conflating "end of development" with "end of extended support." Just because the dev team disbanded doesn't mean they didn't pass off duties to another team to keep it stable.
It would be pretty reckless for anyone to release significant new content and not have any way to patch it. Nintendo and Bamco aren't total novices to this.
balladofwindfishes
Member
1. Mewtwo
2. Ryu
3. Corrin/Roy
4. Roy/Corrin
5. Cloud/Lucas
6. Lucas/Cloud
7. Bayonetta
I'm weird. I just do not fun Bayonetta fun to play at all. Not that she's a badly designed character or anything, just not my taste.
For some of the middle characters I can't really decide where they should go. Mewtwo is unquestionably my favorite DLC character and probably my favorite Smash character in general. He's basically Mewtwo from the movie and that makes him awesome.
I would have paid money for costume DLC for Link that made him look like Ocarina Link, and had that voice :/
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
It's a shame the alternate costumes went to the Miis instead of the actual characters.
Well, so far in tournament play most of the things he said are true, people are doing witch time into dair edguards, early kills of the top, etc. However it is still the first month with the charcater, people will learn to play around her weaknesses and probably develop ways to escape her custom combos, if they can...
NinjaCoachZ
Member
See, the fact that now I can basically play as Lloyd, Virtua Fighters, and Inklings has actually motivated me to use Miis to begin with.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Geno, Hoodie Brawler and Black Knight are my default Miis for those characters. All DLC. The DLC costumes are so much better than the stock ones.
But regular characters really should have gotten some. 643D costumes for Fox/Falco and Ocarina 3D costumes for Link, Zelda, Sheik and Ganondorf would have went a long way. Especially with classic melee voices and sound effects for the Zelda crew.
But regular characters really should have gotten some. 643D costumes for Fox/Falco and Ocarina 3D costumes for Link, Zelda, Sheik and Ganondorf would have went a long way. Especially with classic melee voices and sound effects for the Zelda crew.
You are making the assumption that this isn't what Sakurai or the Bandai-Namco team wants.
I wish they patched in the ability to play as Miis online in the 3DS version. Using them in Smash Run makes up for it ... kind of.
Isn't 4 years nearly half a decade?
I quoted the wrong post for that, but I'm sure if the counter ends up being that centralizing they'd definitely change it.
friskykillface
Banned
If Nintendo really wants more money they'll let me use custom characters in for fun online
I'll buy all the costumes and hats, just wanna show it off
Is it so hard to filter out dick faces and hitler?
I'll buy all the costumes and hats, just wanna show it off
Is it so hard to filter out dick faces and hitler?
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
Rest up, Sakurai.
I might not have my 3DS anymore, but I'm loving everything so far I'm hearing about the NX, and I'm hoping Smash ports to it. If it's a direct port of the Wii U, that's fine I guess. Take some 3DS content (like stages and Smash Run) and add it to the NX? Sweet. Add in the Ice Climbers? I'm buying it Day 1. Add in even MORE characters (like Wolf), then you'll have me excited.
That Smash 6 job listing has not left my mind at all.
I may not have been impressed at all with the DLC beyond Mewtwo (though I will admit that Ryu and Cloud were awesome additions in their own right), I'm still pretty thankful that Charizard is still in the game and wasn't axed alongside the other Gen 1 Starters from Brawl, and significantly improved over the course of the game.
I'll be back by the time the NX comes around if that Smash Bros for NX thing is true.
I might not have my 3DS anymore, but I'm loving everything so far I'm hearing about the NX, and I'm hoping Smash ports to it. If it's a direct port of the Wii U, that's fine I guess. Take some 3DS content (like stages and Smash Run) and add it to the NX? Sweet. Add in the Ice Climbers? I'm buying it Day 1. Add in even MORE characters (like Wolf), then you'll have me excited.
That Smash 6 job listing has not left my mind at all.
I may not have been impressed at all with the DLC beyond Mewtwo (though I will admit that Ryu and Cloud were awesome additions in their own right), I'm still pretty thankful that Charizard is still in the game and wasn't axed alongside the other Gen 1 Starters from Brawl, and significantly improved over the course of the game.
I'll be back by the time the NX comes around if that Smash Bros for NX thing is true.
Well, It's been the most crazy and hyped up ride that I've had in a while. I wonder what he'll be twerking on next?. Anyways, if anyone truly thinks that the end of patches is now then I'd love to meet you cause your jokes are way too much, haha. Yes, we're less than a month in so I think it should wait a bit till the next patch but as many others have pointed out, Witch Time need to be nerfed, her up b and side b combo needs to connect easier cause it's way too easy to DI out of, her knockback on some moves need nerfed and she needs better throws plus a kill throw. When it comes to Corrin, he/she seems pretty balanced as is from the few times that I've used her but can anyone link a video demonstrating what's broken about the counter move?. I've never used it during any of my matches.
After a weekend playing Smash 4 with friends, I'm ok with this. Both new characters are great and hopefully high level players can shake up the meta with them in tournaments.
and THANK GOODNESS Sakurai is getting an extended vacation! Rest easy
edit: Also thank you for Knuckles Mii Costume aka the only one that matters
and THANK GOODNESS Sakurai is getting an extended vacation! Rest easy
edit: Also thank you for Knuckles Mii Costume aka the only one that matters
Coffee Dog
Banned
Regular character costumes could have been a lot more involved for the most part compared to Mii accessories, and putting in more work for something which could only apply to a single character and would necessarily reach a smaller audience as a result might not be considered worthwhile for DLC.
Hopefully, if the next Smash game is a 4 port, they'll manage to give every character at least one modeled alt, along with 16 colours - that seems like it'd be a little closer to doable if the majority of assets only receive minor touchups, as opposed to what an update on the level of Brawl to Smash 4 itself would entail.
DecoReturns
Member
The DLC was for me I swear.
My Favorite Final Fantasy Character.
My Melee main
My Brawl Main
One of my Favorite Pokemon and my most wanted vet
And Corrin is great
Ryu is Awesome
And Bayonetta is neat I guess.
My Favorite Final Fantasy Character.
My Melee main
My Brawl Main
One of my Favorite Pokemon and my most wanted vet
And Corrin is great
Ryu is Awesome
And Bayonetta is neat I guess.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Please stay on ur vacation and don't work on the next ssb, there was no story mode because this guy had a hissy fit.
I mean, Corrin and Bayo were -just- released, lol. My concern was their potential dominance once they are fully part of the competitive metagame.
Clearly Sakurai's had his priorities in check, as his was likely to get as many characters in the game as possible. If I recall, SSE came at the cost of quite a few characters during the Brawl days. It'd be a damn shame to lose Sakurai.
tauroxd
Member
Oh... Didn't know that... If true, then I'm not as mad at him for not including something like it in Smash 4.
Gaiaknight
Member
i would rather have more stages and characters and a really fleshed out multiplayer than anything other than classic and all star mode.
he should have stuck with an adventure mode like SSBM's and add a few alt paths.
SSE was lose-lose since we lost the original adventure mode, got a bad mode as a replacement and lost characters.
SSB4 still feels like it's missing something because of no adventure mode at all.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm not too. I'm glad that Sakurai focused on characters and stages because those features are only things we would play the most online. Most of people just played single mode just once then they are done for good.
Target Test in Melee is only mode that I still enjoy right now. It was fun to trying to beat my own records once in awhile.
Eh, If I have a choice to pick between more characters and stages vs. more single modes. I would pick more characters and stages in heart beats. Unless It's Target Test Vs. more characters/stages then I would be genuinely stumped.
SSBM didn't seem to lose characters over the modes it had. SSE was too big and long and that's why characters were lost.
most of the stages in SSBM's adventure are repurposed regular stages. theres few stages created specifically for that mode. i'd say it's as much work as making Smash Run and Smash Tour. i don't see why they couldn't bring back adventure for the next game if they keep most of the roster and add a few newcomers (restarting from scratch would be a waste of time at this point)
i'm still puzzled why they didn't use the stage creator to bring back the old Break the Targets mode. stage creator would have let them create stages for that pretty easily since the stages for those modes were very simple.
in a way, SSB4 is the opposite extreme of SSBB. we lost modes over characters this time.