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Saturn or N64?
- Thread starter CurseoftheGods
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shoplifter
Member
The fact that we're even having this discussion makes me sad.
Saturn, there is no contest.
Saturn, there is no contest.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Japanese Saturn + memory upgrade + Xmen vs Street Fighter>N64+Smash Bros 64
Both consoles are great and Saturn had some amazing games that many on this thread have never heard of or will never experience but that's their loss.
Overall though I think the N64 deserves the win for me because I'm more of a party person. I like having my friends over and the N64 was The Console to have because of all the amazing 4 player games you could played.
Star Fox 64
Bomberman 64
Perfect Dark/Goldeneye
Mario Kart 64/Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Party
Mario Tennis(I love this game with a passion)
Super Smash Brothers
Pokemon Stadium
F-Zero X
When I look at it now I come to realize that the 360 and PS3 can't match Nintendo's lineup for offline splitscreen games.
Both consoles are great and Saturn had some amazing games that many on this thread have never heard of or will never experience but that's their loss.
Overall though I think the N64 deserves the win for me because I'm more of a party person. I like having my friends over and the N64 was The Console to have because of all the amazing 4 player games you could played.
Star Fox 64
Bomberman 64
Perfect Dark/Goldeneye
Mario Kart 64/Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Party
Mario Tennis(I love this game with a passion)
Super Smash Brothers
Pokemon Stadium
F-Zero X
When I look at it now I come to realize that the 360 and PS3 can't match Nintendo's lineup for offline splitscreen games.
cj_iwakura
Member
Bloodwake said:
American essentials? Okay then.
-Dragon Force
-Magic Knight Rayearth
-Shining Wisdom
-Shining The Holy Ark
-Shining Force 3
-Blazing Heroes/Mystaria(the game so nice they named & released it twice)
-Burning Rangers
-NiGHTS
-Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean
Saturn is the RPG king of the two. N64 can't even come close.
PS1 got the first one and Saturn got the second , it was weird on Capcom's part to not make them both multiplatform.woodypop said:I was just amazed, amazed I tell you, that the US Saturn got a release of Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge. Before I started importing, that was my favorite fighter. (I don't think even the US PS1 got a release of it.)
Spiderjericho
Member
Darkstalkers for PS 1 came out terrible with the cut animation, the loading and the ridiculous AI (Pyron).
Nightwarriors was awesome for Saturn.
I think it's a toss up as to which system is better. It depends on your preferences.
As far as U.S. goes, I'd say the Nintendo 64 edges the Saturn slightly.
N64
San Francisco Rush
Rush 2049
Mario Kart
Wave Racer
Diddy Kong Racing
Paper Mario
Turok 2
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Zelda 64
Majora's Mask
Mario 64
Banjo 1
Banjo 2
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Killer Instinct Gold
Star Fox 64
RE 2
In the U.S., I think the PS One and N64 overshadowed the Saturn, and without the later Capcom/Neo Geo fighters, import shooters, remaining Shining Forces, the World's fascination with 3D and no relevant Sonic Game, the Saturn was third place.
But as a proud Saturn owner, it was my favorite 32-bit system (though the PSX is where the meat and potato epic games like MGS, FF7, FF8, FFIX, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil were).
I have more than 70 games for my Saturn. And I'm glad someone mentioned that emulation works pretty good on PC. I'm going to give it a try. Does it enhance the frame rate, add high-res textures and add AA like the PSX emulator?
Nightwarriors was awesome for Saturn.
I think it's a toss up as to which system is better. It depends on your preferences.
As far as U.S. goes, I'd say the Nintendo 64 edges the Saturn slightly.
N64
San Francisco Rush
Rush 2049
Mario Kart
Wave Racer
Diddy Kong Racing
Paper Mario
Turok 2
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Zelda 64
Majora's Mask
Mario 64
Banjo 1
Banjo 2
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Killer Instinct Gold
Star Fox 64
RE 2
In the U.S., I think the PS One and N64 overshadowed the Saturn, and without the later Capcom/Neo Geo fighters, import shooters, remaining Shining Forces, the World's fascination with 3D and no relevant Sonic Game, the Saturn was third place.
But as a proud Saturn owner, it was my favorite 32-bit system (though the PSX is where the meat and potato epic games like MGS, FF7, FF8, FFIX, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil were).
I have more than 70 games for my Saturn. And I'm glad someone mentioned that emulation works pretty good on PC. I'm going to give it a try. Does it enhance the frame rate, add high-res textures and add AA like the PSX emulator?
Genesis Knight
Member
RetroGreg said:
Get an RGB enabled SCART cable for it and a SCART->Component or HDMI converter if you're in the US. It's what I use and the video signal is as clean as an emulator on an HDTV.
Short of that, S-Video.
I have a question Saturn owners.
Will this work for playing US games on JP saturn?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Action-Replay-P...ccessories&hash=item20b6164ea6#ht_1542wt_1139
Japanese white saturn is gorgeous
Will this work for playing US games on JP saturn?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Action-Replay-P...ccessories&hash=item20b6164ea6#ht_1542wt_1139
Japanese white saturn is gorgeous
Interesting. That era in particular stands out as one of the worst when it comes to aging right up there with Atari 2600.Willy105 said:
The 3D is so very early and basic while developers had not yet come to grips with what could really be done with it. Games are rough, run slowly, and tend to suffer from problems that had not yet been solved in the 90s.
Everything from the Dreamcast onward has aged much better.
I will say that Mario 64 is one of the exceptions for me. It still plays great and looks decent. The fact that they did not attempt to create detailed textures probably saves it. They used a lot of simple colors and designs and relied on texture filtering to give everything a smooth appearance. Once N64 games tried to increase detail levels, the limitations of the platform became more obvious.
Genesis Knight
Member
mt1200 said:
Yeah, any region game on any console with that doodad. Just understand you're limited to internal system memory for save space and have to backup/transfer saves to the cart storage. Games cannot directly address it as they can the official memory carts. This is a necessity of the design because if the Action Replay allowed itself to be used as official memory then it couldn't do its region unlock / extra ram functions.
dark10x said:
Those limitations gave the games a unique look that made it look more memorable and interesing, than say, your average PS2/Gamecube/Xbox game. It's pretty much 3D pixel art, with the pixels being polygons. Simple enough to be emulated with paper craft:
Not only that, an early 3D game with framerate problems don't have the same impact as a modern game does. When you see a super realistic scene suddenly drop framerate a little bit, you notice it more because you expect it to stay realistic.
However, on a very simple and low-res environment, a framerate drop might not bother you as much because there is less detail on the screen that can be messed up by a missing frame.
Not even slightly true.
The framerate of games during that era was TERRIBLE.
The N64 was often dropping framerates into the teens. Zelda OoT runs at a maximum of 20 fps! Goldeneye could hit the single digits in the right situation! Smooth framerate was very rare. The PS2 gen is when things started to change with a huge percentage of games operating at 60 fps even! In fact, compared to last gen, we're seeing lower average framerates this time around. Though, framerates in HD games are still much higher and more consistent than most games during the 32/64-bit era.
Look, I can dig the simplistic models and such, that's not the issue. The problem with that generation was image quality and performance. Taking models like that and dropping them into a game running at a minimum of 640x480 at 60 fps with clean, perspective correct textures would have made a world of difference. As it stands those models are ruined by absolutely atrocious image quality and very low framerates.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
At that time I spent a lot of time playing both platforms, actually. 3D platformers, Goldeneye, Starfox, and Zelda on N64. A shit-ton of fantastic Capcom fighting games on Saturn. The PSX was easily my least played out of the three, but to be fair I was not into sports, JRPGs, etc. To me, the PSX was for Castlevania and MGS. Oh, and Tekken 2 (though I preferred VF).
Clemsontigers35
Member
If you say N64, you've got no heart, or started gaming in 1996. If you say Saturn, you've got no head, or stopped gaming in 1996. Honestly, I think I prefer N64 just because of Goldeneye/Banjo-Kazooie. Plus, I'm wretched at fighting games.
dark10x said:
I am not saying that games on the N64 ran at excellent framerates, I am saying it is not as shocking as when it happens on today's consoles.
When I see a framerate drop or something pop-up in the distance of a 360/Wii/PS3 game, and I going to be much more offended than when I play a Cruisn' game, where buildings that pop up less than 30 meters away from your car (that look like they are made out of boxes) are not as distracting as when the near-photorealistic secret agent turns a hotel corner and suddenly the screen tears the painting in the wall.
The brain knows what it's seeing, and when it sees something that requires so little imagination for it to seem realistic, the slightest glitch will break the spell, unlike with simpler graphics, where your imagination is already filling up the rest.
Because of this, the hugely visible pixels from a 2D pixel art character is not going to bother you as much as the jaggies of an HD character.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Why are we talking about random tech crap and whatnot when it's all about the games?
And why is this game series so underrepresented in this thread?
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And why is this game series so underrepresented in this thread?
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cj_iwakura
Member
mt1200 said:
Yep, like a charm. It also saves data to it. Just be careful, they're touchy. Removing them carelessly can easily cause a data wipe.
Also, thread needs vireland's input.
N64 was some good multiplayer gaming! I had the PS1 and N64, and the complimented each other perfectly. N64 may not have had a ton of games, but the games it did have would keep me entertained for months at a time. I can't even believe how long I played Goldeneye with my buddies, I would love to see a timer of the time I spent on that game. But that wasn't the only game, there was Wrestlemania 2000 that took a ton of hours of my life, Mario Kart 64, KI Gold...Add classics like Mario 64, Conker, OoT...etc...It definitely kept me entertained for a long time with the few games it had.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Today is peace day 
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Saturn and N64 will receive both a neo geo project game.(I don't think the PS will receive it).
With Cup Head on Master System and the yearly new Genesis releases, Sega consoles definitely are the after life winners
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They'll have new gems every year until 2040 minimum.
Timeless consoles
.Saturn and N64 will receive both a neo geo project game.(I don't think the PS will receive it).
With Cup Head on Master System and the yearly new Genesis releases, Sega consoles definitely are the after life winners
.They'll have new gems every year until 2040 minimum.
Timeless consoles
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NeverYouMind
Member
Today is peace day
Saturn has a kick ass 2D collection while N64 has primitive blurry 3D dinosaurs.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Agree but this time this game helps the N64 more ...
Saturn has a kick ass 2D collection while N64 has primitive blurry 3D dinosaurs.
SilvergunUK
Neo Member
Mischief makers was the worst treasure game. Radiant Silvergun's annihilates it.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Just going by the sheer size of the Saturn's library compared to the N64's one it's not hard to pick Sega's console. You'd have to really be into exactly the couple dozen masterpieces on the N64 to disregard all of what the Saturn has to offer.
DEAD ORIGINAL
Member
But 4 of the all time greats, Goldeneye, Mario 64, Zelda OOFT, Mario Kart 64, What's Saturn got as good as any of them?
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Ain't no way someone revived a 15-year-old thread...
Saturn
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SEGAvangelist
Member
I'll have to make a good list. Saturn absolutely crushes even these 4 titles.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I have both. The Saturn has a ton of fun games for sure, but I prefer the N64. Some of my favorite games are in that system and honestly I think it might be my favorite console lol, but that's mostly nostalgia.
Still, I believe nothing on the Saturn reaches the highs of games like Ocarina of Time, Perfect Dark or Jet Force Gemini.
Still, I believe nothing on the Saturn reaches the highs of games like Ocarina of Time, Perfect Dark or Jet Force Gemini.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I would say Saturn and it's not even close. Even if Saturn doesn't have an individual game as good as MM/OOT/SM64.
Sohurmk833
Member
Rare alone put out a dozen. Then you had Nintendo themselves. Acclaim. Konami. Lucasarts. THQ. And many more.
N64 had the best Jump'n'Runs of the generation, the best Sports and Wrestling Games, Star Wars, the best First Person Shooter and obviously some of the best action adventures. Also great racers, especially arcade.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
When we take imports into consideration the Saturn was the best console that generation IMO.
MazingerDUDE
Banned
those two are probably the worst consoles that ever existed.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Do you hate fun or what.
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
sums up most of the opinions in this thread
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Never say any in Spain either until I bought a 2nd hand one some time ago.
You'd like the Saturn! Tons of arcade style games with very fun multiplayer modes. Not long ago a relative come visiting and we had a ton of fun with the Saturn, specially with the lightgun games.
MazingerDUDE
Banned
had some good games, but the hardwares were the worst ever
Saturn's 3D graphics looked like a joke
and N64 had its games ran at like 10 fps with drops
German Shocks
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
Sega of America really fumbled the Saturn.
It's honestly sad.
I remember PDS being limited to 20,000 printed copies, lol
wtf were they thinking back then?