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Scorcese says Marvel films are essentially 'theme parks', 'not cinema'
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Yes
These movies are not as great as you think they are. Black panther and Ant man are not amazing films. They don’t do anything particularly interesting.
But they have super heroes, and explosions and snappy dialogue so I guess thy are considered masterpieces now
brap
Banned
Yeah, it is. It's like the difference between real 80s movies and Stranger Things or AHS 1984.
I'll admit though digital looks way better now than in the late 2000s. Everything was fucking brown or teal. There's even a JCVD movie that has a goddamn sepia filter on for the entire movie. Something like Triple 9 from a few years back looks like it was shot on film though it wasn't. Some of these movies really do look like somebody shot them on an iphone though.
sol_bad
Member
Yes
These movies are not as great as you think they are. Black panther and Ant man are not amazing films. They don’t do anything particularly interesting.
But they have super heroes, and explosions and snappy dialogue so I guess thy are considered masterpieces now
If you thing that Ant-Man and Black Panther look the same, I don't know what to say. The colour hues are totally different for a start.
The color hues? Really?
Right, let’s ignore the pacing, the structure, the dialogue, the brain dead plot in each...
sol_bad
Member
Tonally and pacing wise both films are different to each other.
They both follow the same boring MCU pacing. Beat by beat.
sol_bad
Member
Please explain what that is.
sunnysideup
Banned
He is 100% correct. You don't have to be an fancy pantsy cinematwat either.
Mainstream blockbusters have always been one of my favourite genres. From jaws, to t2, to gladiator, to lord of the rings, to batman dark knight.
But these movies are so devoid of story, characters, originality. Liken them to a theme ride is pretty spot on. You are basically bouncing between explosions. Its like those themepark rides they had in the 90s where you watched a large movie screen with short cgi film with movable/shaking chairs. Only 3 hours long and no moving chair.
Frankly It becomes boring. I watch guardians of the galaxy in theatres and i fell asleep. Its like watching one long video game cutscene.
Its not a popcorn flick. Its boring.
Mainstream blockbusters have always been one of my favourite genres. From jaws, to t2, to gladiator, to lord of the rings, to batman dark knight.
But these movies are so devoid of story, characters, originality. Liken them to a theme ride is pretty spot on. You are basically bouncing between explosions. Its like those themepark rides they had in the 90s where you watched a large movie screen with short cgi film with movable/shaking chairs. Only 3 hours long and no moving chair.
Frankly It becomes boring. I watch guardians of the galaxy in theatres and i fell asleep. Its like watching one long video game cutscene.
Its not a popcorn flick. Its boring.
so you're saying... a movie is terrible because it's fake? you do know those oscar winning movies have adults pretending to gunfight eachother with blanks on a prop set right?
calling marvel films a "theme park" is an insult to the geniuses who created the characters and story. not many people can come up with the idea of "spider man". it takes a lot of imagination and thought to create the world marvel has created.
sunnysideup
Banned
no its an insult to theme parks.
Constant Flux
Member
You like mainstream blockbusters... But yet you don’t like the MCU movies. The fuck are you smoking? Can I have some?
brap
Banned
What the fuck are you and
sol_bad
smoking? Butthurt incense? Dude, marvel movies look like a video game. Shitty CGI everywhere. I don't know how anybody can take it seriously. It looks so fucking fake and stupid.
>dude gets bit by a spider
>gets spider powers
Yeah, wow mhm who could've thought of that?
Constant Flux
Member
What the fuck are you and
I’m not some super MCU fan, so... I’m just saying I enjoy some MCU movies from time to time. For example, I thought Endgame was a great movie. Maybe you don’t, but yeah.
Radical Dreamer
Member
This has to be troll post, right? xd
Greedings
Member
This is amazing.
brap
Banned
Good for you bruh. No sarcasm there.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
That shit can fuck right off.
sunnysideup
Banned
since when is mcu whatever that is synonymous with blockbuster. How old are you 13?
-Arcadia-
Banned
Look, I’m not here to ruin anyone’s good time. I don’t click with the movies at all, but it’s fine if you do. It’s not world politics, it’s not important, and if somebody, somewhere, is actually having fun, instead of all the dismal stuff that’s always happening, I’m down for it.
This however, is one of the funniest unironic things ever posted here.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Calling Taken 3’s editing “bad” is an insult to the geniuses who created the character and story. not many people can come up with the idea of Liam Neeson “kicking ass” . it takes a lot of imagination and thought to create the world 20th Century Fox has created.
pel1300
Member
I find it so funny whenever James Cameron or any other old school director criticizes MCU films and fans get so angry.
You don't agree with him fine. I don't either. It's his opinion. He isn't being literal anyway.
I do find it depressing that the MCU make up most of my top 10 movies of the past decade. The exceptions being Logan and Blade runner 2049.
As for arthouse cinema this past decade has been so awful.
Compare the 2000s Oscar nominees with the 2010s....such a stark contrast in quality. We had No Country For Old Men, TWWB, Zodiac, The Dark Knight, Little Miss Sunshine, Inglorious Basterds, kill Bill 1 & 2......sigh the good days.
You don't agree with him fine. I don't either. It's his opinion. He isn't being literal anyway.
I do find it depressing that the MCU make up most of my top 10 movies of the past decade. The exceptions being Logan and Blade runner 2049.
As for arthouse cinema this past decade has been so awful.
Compare the 2000s Oscar nominees with the 2010s....such a stark contrast in quality. We had No Country For Old Men, TWWB, Zodiac, The Dark Knight, Little Miss Sunshine, Inglorious Basterds, kill Bill 1 & 2......sigh the good days.
sol_bad
Member
This is a troll post right?
Of course it takes geniuses to create characters that have lasted 60 years.
highrider
Banned
I like his movies generally more than MCU movies, but what I don’t like is arrogance.
I’m an artist in a visual medium and I’ve always resented the marching orders that truly great art must have deep, and dark thematic content. Or make a social statement on the issue du jour in the cultural space. It is a limiting and myopic way of perceiving the world and the creative process.
I’m an artist in a visual medium and I’ve always resented the marching orders that truly great art must have deep, and dark thematic content. Or make a social statement on the issue du jour in the cultural space. It is a limiting and myopic way of perceiving the world and the creative process.
two people in a world of 7 billion plus.. they happened to become rich because of it. one of em anyway don't know about the other guy
kiiltz
Member
>there was 7 billion people in the world in the 1960s
i stand corrected 3 billion people
well the mcu is highly popular and highly successful, hence a blockbuster. how old are you 13?
ROMhack
Member
They aren't to everyone, honestly. If you don't automatically think superheroes being on screen is AWESOME then there's nothing much to them.
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sol_bad
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The only other blockbusters right now that hit over a billion are Star Wars, Fast and the Furious, Jurassic Park and Disney remakes. It's 70% MCU though.
Not sure why
sunnysideup
would get annoyed at the thought of MCU films being blockbusters, that's what they are.
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ROMhack
Member
The only other blockbusters right now that hit over a billion are Star Wars, Fast and the Furious, Jurassic Park and Disney remakes. It's 70% MCU though.
Not sure why
I don't understand how anybody could argue they're not Blockbusters either.
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sol_bad
Member
Samuel keeping it real.
Wife and I watched Taxi Driver after Joker, she unfortunately didn't think much of it, she also got bored of Casino when I tried to get her to watch it a few years ago.
She loved Wolf of Wall Street, The Departed and Shutter Island though.
She found The Last Temptation of Christ and Gangs of New York interesting.
Wife and I watched Taxi Driver after Joker, she unfortunately didn't think much of it, she also got bored of Casino when I tried to get her to watch it a few years ago.
She loved Wolf of Wall Street, The Departed and Shutter Island though.
She found The Last Temptation of Christ and Gangs of New York interesting.
Revolutionary
Member
Alternative title: Samuel L Jackson defends his employer; wants more easy paychecks
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Marvel fans/shills still seething; seeking validation from other well-known actors or directors
Really though, he doesn't even know the full context of the quote. He literally says he didn't pay attention to it and she presents it as though Scorsese only said Marvel films aren't cinema, completely ignoring the crucial theme park portion of the quote. And then she brings up the "millions and billions of dollars", like that's fucking relevant. Yep, no agenda on her part!
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Manus
Member
Visually they all look the same. They all use the same type of color grading that creates a flat and dull picture when they should pop visually. The second GoTG being a small exception. The first Thor was not a good film, but it was gorgeous to look at. Hell Marvel's Civil War looks like it was completely shot in a parking lot.
I'm not saying all digital films look like piss compared to actual film. Mad Max Fury Road and Skyfall were shot on the same digital recorder that most Marvel films use, and those films actually have artistic vision and thought put into them. Disney hires these great cinematographers and doesn't actually let them do their job.
No one is saying you can’t enjoy these movies.
MCU fans always revert back to this shit argument.
Guardian's Light
Member
I'm the first one to agree - in part - with him, but celebrities should never shittalk others' stuff and other celebs in public, imo, it's a drop in class
Also, Scorsese, guess who made billions and the most viewed movie ever?
Also, Scorsese, guess who made billions and the most viewed movie ever?
sol_bad
Member
Samuel never heard the whole proper quote properly. His opinion doesn't matter.
Scorsese never saw a whole proper MCU film properly. His opinion matters ok!
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MisterHero
Super Member
I was planning on taking advatage of this truth and making superior films for the easily impressed, but now Mr. Scorsese let the cat out of the bag. Dang it all. ;p
Disney/Marvel movies make lots of money and better-than-average reviews on a literal production/assembly line. That's good enough for them, but not for me. There's no amount of money or reviews that would feel right if I wasn't personally happy with my own work.
Disney/Marvel movies make lots of money and better-than-average reviews on a literal production/assembly line. That's good enough for them, but not for me. There's no amount of money or reviews that would feel right if I wasn't personally happy with my own work.
sol_bad
Member
Sorry brap, forgot to reply to this message. I assure you that MCU films do not look like they are made on an iphone.
But even if they were, that's still not something to laugh at or mock.
Steven Soderbergh made a film on an iphone.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Martin Scorsese Doesn't Think Marvel Movies Are Cinema
Legendary filmmaker and cinephile Martin Scorsese says that despite his attempts to watch MCU movies, he doesn't consider them to be cinema.screenrant.com
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Jon Neu
Banned
I can't believe I live in a timeline in which someone is trying to argue that Martin Scorsese is jealous of all the MCU crap.
brap
Banned
Yeah, but that's a low budget horror movie and it looks fine. Those marvel movies have approximately 800 quadgillion dollars put into each one and they still look cheap. Probably all the greenscreen and CGI combined with shooting digitally.
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Foamy
Unconfirmed Member
Cinema snobbery is alive and well.
Azurro
Banned
He's defending his employer, if I got paid millions to put on an eye patch and play myself in every movie, I'd say the same.
Anyway, I still don't know why you are so triggered when people tell the truth about the MCU movies. It's weird, they make a lot of money, they will continue to make them in the endless factory line, you'll get to fanboy out over the latest guy/girl in a suit making quips in stories with very little consequences and zero artistic merit.
Why are you so annoyed when people tell the truth about the product that they are?