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Self-driving trucks will hit the road in Ohio

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I was under the assumption that there still needs to be a person inside the truck. Says so in the OP too. No ones gonna lose their job.

This is exactly the mentality that's gonna cause so much harm. It doesn't matter what the situation is right now becauae it is INEVITABLE that automation will eventually be able to take countless truck driving jobs. When something like that is INEVITABLE, we need to start as soon as possible to try and counteract it.
 

finalflame

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Self-driving cars are, without question, much safer than human drivers. Stoked for this and for most cars on the road becoming self-driving.

Instead you have a moron programmer who causes every automated truck to crash on that particular ramp. ;)

Except that doesn't happen. Look at airplanes and autopilot systems. Very seldom, if ever, is autopilot the cause for air crashes -- it's almost always human error. And the systems in aircrafts are prehistoric compared to what will be in vehicles, that, and it has to deal with a whole additional axis. Logic is just that, logical. Not only that, but these types of things are extensively tested in simulation and in the field. When your decisions are made algorithmically and a few orders of magnitude faster than a human can even process incoming information, everyone is safer.

Simply put, these kinds of jobs have zero reason to be done by humans once we can automate them.
 

Orin GA

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This is exactly the mentality that's gonna cause so much harm. It doesn't matter what the situation is right now becauae it is INEVITABLE that automation will eventually be able to take countless truck driving jobs. When something like that is INEVITABLE, we need to start as soon as possible to try and counteract it.

But truck driver jobs do not just entail in just driving a truck. There are certain aspect of their jobs that need a human touch.
 

Joni

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But truck driver jobs do not just entail in just driving a truck. There are certain aspect of their jobs that need a human touch.

How much of that human touch could be picked up by having a delivery guy at the start and the end point? A lot of the in-between stuff could be automated.
 

leroidys

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Another aspect of this that I think would be worth underlining is that it's not just some terrible coincidence that automation is gunning for Truck Driver, one of the most common jobs in the US. It's precisely because the job is so common that there's so much money and brainpower being thrown at this problem.

Automating everyone out of a living isn't going to be some gradual creep that nibbles continuously at .1% of the job market. It's going to be a lot of giant, calamitous changes up front, as that's where the greatest economic incentive is.
 

Nocebo

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Self-driving cars are, without question, much safer than human drivers. Stoked for this and for most cars on the road becoming self-driving.



Except that doesn't happen. Look at airplanes and autopilot systems. Very seldom, if ever, is autopilot the cause for air crashes -- it's almost always human error. And the systems in aircrafts are prehistoric compared to what will be in vehicles, that, and it has to deal with a whole additional axis. Logic is just that, logical. Not only that, but these types of things are extensively tested in simulation and in the field. When your decisions are made algorithmically and a few orders of magnitude faster than a human can even process incoming information, everyone is safer.

Simply put, these kinds of jobs have zero reason to be done by humans once we can automate them.
Another point to raise is that even if a mistake happens it will likely happen only once or the occurrence of that mistake will be at least greatly reduced soon after it happens. The situation will get analyzed and every car that has that system will get updated to avoid the mistake in the future. This is something that obviously can't be done with humans. People will keep making the very same mistakes others have already made in the past, this is true not just in traffic but in life in general as well.
 

mAcOdIn

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This is exactly the mentality that's gonna cause so much harm. It doesn't matter what the situation is right now becauae it is INEVITABLE that automation will eventually be able to take countless truck driving jobs. When something like that is INEVITABLE, we need to start as soon as possible to try and counteract it.
And even if the government mandated or companies decided they want a person with the equipment at all times they will for sure be paid less than before. For the employee there really is no win here, either they'll lose their job or get paid less.

And people mentioned diners, drive-throughs, motels and the like losing business, which is a given, but I also think this'll cut into mechanics as well. You'll now have vehicles that will accelerate and decelerate in the most efficient manner, almost 100% of the time barring emergency situations like someone running into the street, putting less wear on everything.

Honestly, imagine how well a modern engine and drivetrain would last if the driver acted efficiently 100% of the time.
 
But truck driver jobs do not just entail in just driving a truck. There are certain aspect of their jobs that need a human touch.

This is still being short sighted. There's no reason to expect AI won't get to the point where they'll be able to replicate the "human touch."

And if not, the people being hired for only the parts of the job that need a human would clearly still be paid less than if they did all aspects of truck driving.
 
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