Rated-Rsuperstar
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Wow a cage match where they don't try to escape every 10 seconds.
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September Wrasslin' |OT| of The Dreamcast of McGillicutty and "MAH SON!"
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AdawgDaFAB
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Reneledarker said:
Sadly you are probably right. I have absolutely no desire to see 500 year old Flair wear the crimson mask like that anymore. It's just become so pathetic.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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They're gonna have Russo on Reaction. I gotta see that. :lol
BoboBrazil
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Seems like it will be a good Reaction. Russo on tv!
AdawgDaFAB
Member
As inane as TNA's booking can be, I think I might got back to ignoring Impact and just watch Reaction and the PPVs.
BoboBrazil
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Is the goal here to make Hogan and Bischoff the heels in this? Because everything makes them seem like they are. I think if you ignored Impact and just watched Reaction you would probably be better off. Next week it will be interesting because Reaction will be live. Also, too funny to show wrestlers in the back rehearsing a match during Russo's interview:lol
AdawgDaFAB
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Brinbe said:
Before I was only watching PPVs. I decided to give them a try for Impact to see the build for 10-10-10. I enjoyed Reaction tho so I am going to set my DVR for it.
Also, I think it is somewhat fitting to end the month with Russo on TV.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I can't even tell what is real and fantasy anymore, Vince Russo in charge of creative genius.BoboBrazil said:
BoboBrazil
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Rafa=FedKilla said:
Don't worry in 2 weeks all these guys will have new gimmicks anyway:lol
The WWE SummerSlam 2010 buyrate is in, and it's not the news that the WWE wanted to hear during a week in which their flagship show RAW has bombed in the ratings.
The disappointing buyrate comes in at 350,000 buys, down once again from last year's poor performance which pulled in 369k buys. There was hope expressed by Vince McMahon and backstage officials that SummerSlam would mark the turnaround of the WWE PPV business with the aid of Nexus, but as the numbers show, this could not be further from the truth.
A look at SummerSlam buys from 2006-2010:
* SummerSlam 2006: 529k buys
* SummerSlam 2007: 537k buys
* SummerSlam 2008: 477k buys
* Summerslam 2009: 369k buys
* Summerslam 2010: 350k buys
http://www.wrestling-radio.com/feed_news-16814-More_Bad_News_for_WWE__SummerSlam_Buyrate_Drops.php
The disappointing buyrate comes in at 350,000 buys, down once again from last year's poor performance which pulled in 369k buys. There was hope expressed by Vince McMahon and backstage officials that SummerSlam would mark the turnaround of the WWE PPV business with the aid of Nexus, but as the numbers show, this could not be further from the truth.
A look at SummerSlam buys from 2006-2010:
* SummerSlam 2006: 529k buys
* SummerSlam 2007: 537k buys
* SummerSlam 2008: 477k buys
* Summerslam 2009: 369k buys
* Summerslam 2010: 350k buys
http://www.wrestling-radio.com/feed_news-16814-More_Bad_News_for_WWE__SummerSlam_Buyrate_Drops.php
BoboBrazil
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RBH said:
How would Nexus help buys when they made them look like jobbers? Also when they first started giving them contracts and all that bullshit didn't help. Maybe when they get rid of the PG things will start getting good again. Hope Linda loses.
Net_Wrecker
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BoboBrazil said:
The PG rating is not completely the problem, people just don't care about these feuds as much right now.
Mr. Enigma
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Don't know if this has been posted, but Tyler Black's new WWE name is Zack Rollins.
BoboBrazil
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dream said:
Are you serious? I joked about Hogan and Bischoff being behind him before when they were feuding with him, but that is some wrestlecrap level stuff if actually true.
ryutaro's mama
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dream said:
This shit better not be the reveal.
dream
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Lyte Edge said:
It...sort of makes sense if you use fucked up TNA logic. Dixie undermined Hogan and Bischoff by bringing in ECW. They needed to get the belt off of RVD and onto Angle to swing the balance of power in their favor. So they put Angle in a tournament and kept running into time limit draws and didn't want a threeway at the PPV and...fuck, I dunno, T-N-A! T-N-A! T-N-A!
Net_Wrecker
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Aye, someone get on that October thread.
Make sure to incorporate "They"
Make sure to incorporate "They"
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
RAW went from being enjoyable, to OK, to meh, to stale, now it's @ the redundancy level.
Raw should be presented like Terrorism levels:
Red: HOLY FUCKING SHIT, 2 hour show, 10 minutes worth of Wrestling, rest all Filler.
Orange: 25 minutes of wrestling, rest all filler, maybe bonus match if you watch.
Yellow: 50-50 on wrestling/filler.
Blue: Decent, 80-20 favorable to wrestling.
Green: Amazing, great wrestling, overall what RAW should always be.
Today's most watched weekly episodic show is Green
Why are there no good stables?, except the Nexus, there's not much there
I mean don't need everyone in stables, but there should be 2-3 stables that should be in power struggle mode
You get Edge, Jericho, Hart Dynasty...even Bret do the Canadian faction. They go on the basis that wrestling by design is made better with Canadians. Heel based stable.
You add a crew of rag-tag of up-comers who stick together and try to prove themselves with any means necessary. (Not the shitty Nexus route, more of a nWo route) add Daniel Bryan, Zack Ryder, Cody, even fucking Ted Sleepybiase call them the Naturals or some shit and let them be in the gray area of wrestling. In the middle
Can create a Cena super-friends crew with him, randy boreton, zoo-keepa', jo-mo, bourne, mark henry. Face booking stable.
The rest of RAW should have characters that are either trying to make a name by challenging the stables, or try their best to join or get one up-man ship on the show.
Give the titles their illustrious weight back, make the WWE title or championship feel illusive, that it takes awhile to win it, and the owner of said belt does everything right to keep it, and only losses do to flaws, or other means, clean wins thrown in here or there to build up new champion reign.
Have 7-10 tag teams stepping on each other backs to become champions. Throw in a gimmick that adds VIP luxury for said team. They enjoy both the best of RAW & Smackdown has to offer. Private jet/limos, cool accommodations, etc, (just play to the audience that if you win these belts, the world is at your fingertips, can build great stuff off how some teams enjoy the good lifestyle, and how some react weirdly to it). They can also wrestle single on each brand while holding the tag title.
Make the show different with-in championship belt spectrum. Raw has it's championship belt, intercontinental, cruiser-weight title.
Smackdown is heavyweight championship, US title, and hardcore (24/7 rule) title.
The Diva + Tag titles are shared, so that has a different dynamic to it.
Smackdown should be a no man's land scenario, where stables aren't welcome, everyone is fending for themselves, make it very cut-throat.
The draft should be to make real good decisions on how to change or adjust character progression, not just do it for shits n' giggles.
New up-coming wrestlers should have some persona, whatever happened to some style or different from the norm. Most look like Create a Wrestler factory outlet #4578976 generic character.
Wrestling is key, it helps to show wrestling is the main selling point. Story-telling is the 2nd, then the entertainment is the last part.
I think with-in 8 months of RAW I have watched, 80% I fast forwarded on my DVR, I record so I can bypass the 500 ads of video game of the month, some matches were highlights, others were just fuck this, I quit...delete.
lI wish we as a group of GAFfers can give good criticism to this dilapidated showing of wrestling, but all I see is the lulz going around or a certain member reaching his fistfull moment on borderline stalker levels
I enjoy reading all the RAW comments after I finish watching the show, I always go what did the GAFfers think about this show, let's go and see.
I have laughed @ the gifs, the puns, the jokes, it would also be nice to get a discussion going that how you see WWE change and become better too.
Sorry for the long rant, just want the show to get better.
Raw should be presented like Terrorism levels:
Red: HOLY FUCKING SHIT, 2 hour show, 10 minutes worth of Wrestling, rest all Filler.
Orange: 25 minutes of wrestling, rest all filler, maybe bonus match if you watch.
Yellow: 50-50 on wrestling/filler.
Blue: Decent, 80-20 favorable to wrestling.
Green: Amazing, great wrestling, overall what RAW should always be.
Today's most watched weekly episodic show is Green
Why are there no good stables?, except the Nexus, there's not much there
I mean don't need everyone in stables, but there should be 2-3 stables that should be in power struggle mode
You get Edge, Jericho, Hart Dynasty...even Bret do the Canadian faction. They go on the basis that wrestling by design is made better with Canadians. Heel based stable.
You add a crew of rag-tag of up-comers who stick together and try to prove themselves with any means necessary. (Not the shitty Nexus route, more of a nWo route) add Daniel Bryan, Zack Ryder, Cody, even fucking Ted Sleepybiase call them the Naturals or some shit and let them be in the gray area of wrestling. In the middle
Can create a Cena super-friends crew with him, randy boreton, zoo-keepa', jo-mo, bourne, mark henry. Face booking stable.
The rest of RAW should have characters that are either trying to make a name by challenging the stables, or try their best to join or get one up-man ship on the show.
Give the titles their illustrious weight back, make the WWE title or championship feel illusive, that it takes awhile to win it, and the owner of said belt does everything right to keep it, and only losses do to flaws, or other means, clean wins thrown in here or there to build up new champion reign.
Have 7-10 tag teams stepping on each other backs to become champions. Throw in a gimmick that adds VIP luxury for said team. They enjoy both the best of RAW & Smackdown has to offer. Private jet/limos, cool accommodations, etc, (just play to the audience that if you win these belts, the world is at your fingertips, can build great stuff off how some teams enjoy the good lifestyle, and how some react weirdly to it). They can also wrestle single on each brand while holding the tag title.
Make the show different with-in championship belt spectrum. Raw has it's championship belt, intercontinental, cruiser-weight title.
Smackdown is heavyweight championship, US title, and hardcore (24/7 rule) title.
The Diva + Tag titles are shared, so that has a different dynamic to it.
Smackdown should be a no man's land scenario, where stables aren't welcome, everyone is fending for themselves, make it very cut-throat.
The draft should be to make real good decisions on how to change or adjust character progression, not just do it for shits n' giggles.
New up-coming wrestlers should have some persona, whatever happened to some style or different from the norm. Most look like Create a Wrestler factory outlet #4578976 generic character.
Wrestling is key, it helps to show wrestling is the main selling point. Story-telling is the 2nd, then the entertainment is the last part.
I think with-in 8 months of RAW I have watched, 80% I fast forwarded on my DVR, I record so I can bypass the 500 ads of video game of the month, some matches were highlights, others were just fuck this, I quit...delete.
lI wish we as a group of GAFfers can give good criticism to this dilapidated showing of wrestling, but all I see is the lulz going around or a certain member reaching his fistfull moment on borderline stalker levels
I enjoy reading all the RAW comments after I finish watching the show, I always go what did the GAFfers think about this show, let's go and see.
I have laughed @ the gifs, the puns, the jokes, it would also be nice to get a discussion going that how you see WWE change and become better too.
Sorry for the long rant, just want the show to get better.
British Monsoon
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GraveRobberX said:
WWE can't even book a competent tag team division, they're even worse when it comes to stables/factions. What I wouldn't give to see a proper faction warfare storyline done right, but it just won't happen.
GraveRobberX said:
I think everyone can clearly see what's wrong with RAW and how it could be made exponentially better, but it's not going to change and at some point you just get bored of complaining about the idiotic booking, the lack of good wrestling, the stupid skits and lame characters week in, week out, and just watch for the lulz and the barest of hopes that WWE will see some sense and the 'flagship show' will magically get better.
Linkified said:
No, it's the name he'll be using in FCW, WWE could always change it before he comes to the main roster (as they did with Colt Cabana to Scott Colton).
I will take generic names over pretending a pro wrestler has magic powers any day of the week. The Undertaker has the most pathetic gimmick in wrestling history and by sheer luck people went with it.Lyte Edge said:
Wrestling already has a bad enough stigma with the general population because it is scripted. If someone gets curious about wrestling and watches an episode of RAW with me, I'd rather say "that is Zack Rollins, he does this awesome suplex" instead of "this is Gravedigger. He can turn the lights off with his mind and can make fog appear in a limo while he kidnaps Teddy Long." Things like DDT work because they don't take themselves seriously. When you get a character like the Undertaker and make the announce team go along with whatever magic powers he has, it just comes off childish and frankly embarrassing to watch.
The general population has moved on to MMA where people go by their real names with a nickname thrown somewhere in the middle. I think to bring in the new audience, you have to appeal to that market so "The Viper" Randy Orton sounds a lot better than "The Shockmaster."
abstract alien
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Well...be the name generic or pathetically gimmicky, it hardly makes it any more realistic or believable. Its a show, so I l don't mind a mix of "regular heroes" and "dead wizards" or whatever the case may be so long as its entertaining. If they put on a great match and have at least some sort of mic skill(or are just identifiable), then I'll like them.
British Monsoon
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From Tyler's twitter;
"Morning dummies. The possible name change is to Seth Rollins, not Zach. Suck it. That is all."
"Morning dummies. The possible name change is to Seth Rollins, not Zach. Suck it. That is all."
Kia Stevens (a/k/a Awesome Kong), who officially parted ways with TNA Wrestling in March, has not been offered a contract by World Wrestling Entertainment, reports the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. WWE officials may feel that shes mentally unstable given the nature of her departure from TNA Wrestling and the story of her attempted suicide.
RBH said:Kia Stevens (a/k/a Awesome Kong), who officially parted ways with TNA Wrestling in March, has not been offered a contract by World Wrestling Entertainment, reports the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. WWE officials may feel that shes mentally unstable given the nature of her departure from TNA Wrestling and the story of her attempted suicide.
damn. sad to hear.
DKehoe
Member
Ever since reading about Vince wanting to call Foley "The Mutilator" when he first came to WWF and Foley suggesting Mankid straight away I've thought any wrestler hoping to get into WWE should have a decent alternative name thought up so they can just suggest that straight away instead of just accepting the awful one they give.
EDIT: Kong attempted suicide? Damn
EDIT: Kong attempted suicide? Damn
Interview with Mick Foley on WWE.com talking about his new book:
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/countdownwithfoleypage1
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/countdownwithfoleypage1
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
So I happened upon a 3-pack of The Rise and Fall of WCW and the Mr. Perfect and Dusty Rhodes DVDs at Walmart last night. Only $13. That's a little over $4 per DVD. Pretty good deal. Also makes me wonder just how well these things sell individually. :lol
spindashing
Banned
Oh my god. I'm sorry I haven't checked into this place, but then again I'm sure some of you guys were happy of my absense. :lol
Did I miss anything on TNA? Kinda turned it off when I saw Mick Foley and Ric Flair hitting each other than Flair talking about Foley's balls.
Smackdown on SyFy! Hoorayy...
Damn I still have to watch like 1,000 Bootaay videos. :lol
Did I miss anything on TNA? Kinda turned it off when I saw Mick Foley and Ric Flair hitting each other than Flair talking about Foley's balls.
Smackdown on SyFy! Hoorayy...
Damn I still have to watch like 1,000 Bootaay videos. :lol
Wrekt said:
I'm on the flipside of this. To me, the entire point of wrasslin' is that it's supposed to be campy and silly. A gimmick can restrict a guy, but letting them just go out and be "Bob Smith" or whatever can too.
For example, for years we watched Shelton kind of float around, but the guy had the physical talent to do so much more. So... why not repackage him with some costume or whatever? For all the time they spent having him be The Shelt or that run with his mama or whatever, he could've taken something as goofy as Shark Boy and been wildly over because he's simply good to watch in the ring.
And I don't think I'd be worried about being embarrassed over whether a guy sounded more credible or not, because you're already going to get shit for watching pro wrestling. It's supposed to be fun, for the goofy stories and the action mixed with coked-out maniacs yelling at each other. :shrug
The one thing that I absolutely hated about the Attitude Era was how many damn stables there were that kept popping up. It was utterly insane back then. Besides, every time the WWE has tried to put together something, they've managed to fuck it up tremendously. Look at Nexus. Look at the Hart Dynasty, which was supposed to expand with Teddy Hart at one point. Look at the Straight-Edge Society. Creative is throwing shit at the wall and books by what sticks.GraveRobberX said:
This I agree with. Every time WWE shows those classic matches when the IC belt, of all titles, is up for grabs, it's amazing to see how far the product has truly fallen. There's too many joke segments, guest hosts, garbage Hornswaggle, idiotic divas matches and other shit thrown in that it waters everything down. I'm not saying Orton needs to come out and wrestle every damn night, but you need to showcase the champion more. There's no reason the U.S. Champion should have both it and the MitB. And I know generic heels always try to get out of everything, but why do guys like Kofi put the belt up constantly when they have it and you hardly see it defended when heels have it? I imagine more people would tune into Raw/Smackdown if there was some meaning to the matches.
Wrekt said:
It doesn't have to be a gimmick with "magic powers" or any of that crap. I'm just talking about their names. They sound incredibly generic and forgettable. At least give them nicknames or a title or SOMETHING. 'Dashing' Cody Rhodes and 'The Viper' Randy Orton are good examples. I'll take "Mr. Perfect" over "Dolph Ziggler" any day of the week, too. How the hell am I supposed to take someone with that name seriously? His name sounds like a porno star from 30 years ago.
Again, it doesn't have to be some stupid gimmick like that. "Gravedigger" is a lot more memorable than "Zack Rollins," though.
As opposed to a general manager character being represented by a laptop, using a stupid voice mask, and pleading for help like he/she is the one being beat up when the computer is destroyed? Give me a break. It's already been said...it's pro wrestling. It's already cheesy as hell.
Exactly.
And don't get me wrong...some names do work, like Sheamus.
Keyser Soze
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It's October
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CrunchinJelly
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Post a link in here.Forkball said:
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