No, if you read, I said telling people who they can and cannot have sex with. see that statement?? "who they can and cannot"
I don't think anyone thinks there is a problem with not being attracted to most people of a certain race; attraction is an involuntary thing. But taking the time to post "no blacks" or something similar on your dating profile, as opposed to simply not dating people you aren't attracted to, requires a certain racial motive that is more than simply expressing a preference.
This thread topic has nothing to do with telling anyone who they "cannot" have sex with.
It's an absurd complaint. Choosing who you have sex with is an inherently discriminatory process.
You wrote that on your PHONE??
There's "I know my own preferences/tendencies in attraction, I tend to go for X but am open to Y should the right person come along". That's not a problem.
Then there's "I don't date X, full stop." That's a problem.
"No Nickelback fans."
Corollary: was it because Asian guys are too racist?
He probably meant black as in dark skinned. It's no lie that 'light skin' is seen as a more favorable trait. Which is a whole other can of worms.
Are you Portuguese?
I'm not sure why it's bad for people to have preferences, it's perfectly normal behaviour and like others have said, we cannot help who we are attracted to.
Telling people who they can and cannot have sex with would be much worse and would be no better than arranged marriages which completely go against our concept of free will.
TBH I think the difference is between thinking it and saying it.
To me that makes all the difference in the world.
Preferences stated as absolutes are the problem, not so much the preferences themselves. Usually preferences framed in the negative are worse. Ex: "I prefer athletic women" vs. "no fatties."
As others have said in this thread. I don't how some one can say "I don't like (insert race here)". How the hell do you know that you aren't attracted to any black/white/Asian/mixed etc in the world? People that can simply rule out a person because of their skin colour are indeed racist. That doesn't mean people that have a preference are the same.
False equivalence. The topic being discussed isnt a racial evaluation of people's chosen sex partners and subsequent moral judgement on it..... who youve dated/fucked is your own business.If you do not allow people to have their preferences, that is exactly what it is doing.
False equivalence. The topic being discussed isnt a racial evaluation of people's chosen sex partners and subsequent moral judgement on it..... who youve dated/fucked is your own business.
Whats being scrutinized is why person X would refuse to entertain even the possibility of a sexual encounter with "Asians" or "blacks" or whatever. Thats the fundamental point of contention here. Not "I prefer blondes"
I was all ready to disagree with whatever was coming based on the preamble in the OP. Mostly because I think these preferences are generally based on exposure and while it stands to reason that those raised in relative racial isolation would also have more racist tendencies, it doesn't necessarily mean it is based in racism or exclusive to racists. But then I get like half a sentence in to the article. Everything I said applies to a general preference, but I can't think of any way to describe it other than racist if you're excluding people outright because of their race.
Did you read the OP. This isn't about have preferences it's about outright excluding people because of their race.
It's really nuts how some porn stars wont go with black actors because it devalues them in the industry. There's no bottom to the porn barrel.
I think so. That's why you usually see lighter-skinned people as love interests in movies and stuff for the most part as well. It's definitely a cultural brain thing.If people say "I dont date Indians, blacks" or whatever, they are definitely talking about a specific kind of black or Indian
Right?
They wouldnt mind a more euro-beauty type. Is that racist? Are there cultural considerations that go into this?
No one is telling anyone who to have sex with, this study is simply showing a link between stated "preferences" and racist attitudes.I'm not sure why it's bad for people to have preferences, it's perfectly normal behaviour and like others have said, we cannot help who we are attracted to.
Telling people who they can and cannot have sex with would be much worse and would be no better than arranged marriages which completely go against our concept of free will.
Wasn't there a list of things that lowered a porn star's "stock" and interracial was right below getting pissed on or something? I know I saw a list like that but I can't remember where.
Not completely. You also can have individuals who might only like blacks of a certain aesthetic, which could be perceived as racist as well.
I've always assumed there's an additional helping of classism on top of this particular strain of racist mentality, given the person is likely associating certain aesthetics of racial/ethnic groups with lower socioeconomic status. Just an assumption or a hunch on my part, though.If people say "I dont date Indians, blacks" or whatever, they are definitely talking about a specific kind of black or Indian
Right?
They wouldnt mind a more euro-beauty type. Is that racist? Are there cultural considerations that go into this?
Yes and like I said, I don't see the problem with it. it is their life after all and they should be allowed to say who they do and do not want without anyone trying to force their beliefs/opinions upon them.
People have their preferences and many times it's not something they can control, people are expecting a preference to be explainable and many times it just isn't.
I'm not saying a lot of people aren't racist by their wording but just because someone has a preference it doesn't make them a racist by default.
For example, I think while the couples probably have to go through some serious barriers, black men and white women are not seen as taboo in some parts of the country. However, I feel like white men and black women are still seen largely as taboo. (Perhaps due the terrible history of what white slave owners did to female slaves.)
This topic reminds me of all those backpage escort services that flat out say that same things. "No blacks please", "no asians", etc.
But I wouldn't know anything about that though.
Yes and like I said, I don't see the problem with it. it is their life after all and they should be allowed to say who they do and do not want without anyone trying to force their beliefs/opinions upon them.
People have their preferences and many times it's not something they can control, people are expecting a preference to be explainable and many times it just isn't.
I'm not saying a lot of people aren't racist by their wording but just because someone has a preference it doesn't make them a racist by default.
Okay, counterpoint: is there a problem with businesses excluding people of certain races from being eligible to receive their goods and/or services because that's purely unexplainable, ingrained preference on part of the business owners?
I feel like the opposite is true. Black men with white women get a lot more dirty looks, etc.
Okay, counterpoint: is there a problem with businesses excluding people of certain races from being eligible to receive their goods and/or services because that's purely unexplainable, ingrained preference on part of the business owners?