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SFV EVO Finals Watched By 5m Unique Viewers.

In that clip he talked specifically about the haters and why they might watch the game and his statement, if he actually meant the rivalries and the personalities, i think is very possible. You on the other hand are talking about the majority of the spectators. I don't think it is that unfair to compare the validity of those statements given that both of you are making assumptions of something that is possible. If he was talking about the majority of the spectators then i might agree with you..

I think people who actually don't like the gameplay are hardcore fg players mostly and there aren't that many of them.

That clip didn't show everything.

https://youtu.be/21sBsyxHPAE

He specifically says that's the reason why it's the most watched game. But that wasn't in the original clip, so it's not really anyone's fault so I apologize.
 
Disgusting, absolute trash game.

Can only imagine being a personality tugger to sit through that dry game.
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Kashiwaba

Member
Lol Aris is so salty, i don't know why some people think just because they don't enjoy something no one else should enjoy it.
 
I also loved to watch SFIV and didn't care to play it that much. I understand that. What I didn't do was watch SFIV all the time and then turn around and call it a bad game.

You rather people not watch it and call it a bad game?

If it makes you feel better I didn't watch it.
 

JusDoIt

Member
You rather people not watch it and call it a bad game?

If it makes you feel better I didn't watch it.

I'd rather people be a little more critical and nuanced is all. If I found SFIV very entertaining to watch, but turned around and called it a bad game, that would have been lazy and dishonest of me. It wouldn't have been thought provoking or constructive or even accurate. I didn't like to play the game as much as I liked to watch it, but that was more on me and not the game.
 

cordy

Banned
Not surprised by any amount of views especially when compared to the amount of sales of the game. Pretty much it's the "Roman Reigns Syndrome" and it's to be expected.
 
Considering how bad was, and still is, the development/release shedule for Street Fighter V it's incredible...

I guess Capcom stats may be a little "fake" perhaps?
 
Considering how bad was, and still is, the development/release shedule for Street Fighter V it's incredible...

I guess Capcom stats may be a little "fake" perhaps?

Yeah I think they made up those numbers or like at least put bot accounts on Twitch. Capcom can't get away with this bullshit. I saw how many people hated sfv on GAF so there's no way people were watching this dreck and enjoying it.
 

Trickster

Member
It's an impressive sounding number. But I really have to wonder how many of those viewers actually watched for more than a couple of minute before flipping the channel/stream
 

Forward

Member
Considering how bad was, and still is, the development/release shedule for Street Fighter V it's incredible...

I guess Capcom stats may be a little "fake" perhaps?

All I know is, growing up, my old man would flip through all of the sports channels, whenever what he was actually watching went to commercial. I wonder how many of those unique viewers were middle-aged suburban dudes avoiding Viagra advertisements.
 

dmcAxle

Neo Member
I don't see the level of play that DBZ might have to be at all comparable though, it'll only have had a few months (if that) of people playing the game.

People have been playing SFV for 1.5 years now.
That character is the weirdest thing.

Such. An. Asshole.

And yet his actor just pulled it off so well that I still found him so entertaining.

Really? DBZF is made for new players to fighting games like SFV is, yes.. and clearly won't be as complex as Guilty Gear or even some Marvel games, but it will still have opportunities to be more complex than SFV. This is Arc System Works, the game will have tons of mechanics that take years to master.

You can't judge the game on what you've seen so far. It's not too far into completion (new mechanics and harder characters will likely be added. The initial saiyans are the easiest characters supposedly) and the only people playing it are those with day 0 experience of only being able to take turns playing the demo.
 
Really? DBZF is made for new players to fighting games like SFV is, yes.. and clearly won't be as complex as Guilty Gear or even some Marvel games, but it will still have opportunities to be more complex than SFV. This is Arc System Works, the game will have tons of mechanics that take years to master.

You can't judge the game on what you've seen so far. It's not too far into completion (new mechanics and harder characters will likely be added. The initial saiyans are the easiest characters supposedly) and the only people playing it are those with day 0 experience of only being able to take turns playing the demo.
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I personally think it will be fun but just not in 2018, simply because people will still be getting acclimated to the game and learning the ins and outs.

2019 and beyond though, that shit is gonna be hype. It happens with every fighting game. Even SFV's finals last year were good but not anything great (IMO). This year was fantastic though.
 

nded

Member
Really? DBZF is made for new players to fighting games like SFV is, yes.. and clearly won't be as complex as Guilty Gear or even some Marvel games, but it will still have opportunities to be more complex than SFV. This is Arc System Works, the game will have tons of mechanics that take years to master.

You can't judge the game on what you've seen so far. It's not too far into completion (new mechanics and harder characters will likely be added. The initial saiyans are the easiest characters supposedly) and the only people playing it are those with day 0 experience of only being able to take turns playing the demo.

He's not arguing that DBFZ won't have complex mechanics or longevity, just that it's not likely to replace SF as the main stage game for next year's EVO just being out a few months.
 

jett

D-Member
Yeah I think they made up those numbers or like at least put bot accounts on Twitch. Capcom can't get away with this bullshit. I saw how many people hated sfv on GAF so there's no way people were watching this dreck and enjoying it.

They put bot accounts on twitch and bot people in Nielsen homes.

WILL CAPCPOM STOP AT NOTHING?
 
He's not arguing that DBFZ won't have complex mechanics or longevity, just that it's not likely to replace SF as the main stage game for next year's EVO just being out a few months.
Actually, I meant in terms of quality of play, not in terms of how much attention it gets.

It's a simple fact that the more time people get with the game,even if it's a franchise like Tekken where the core fundamentals don't change that heavily, it still takes a lot of time for players to really get to a proficient level at the game even with the ease in which we can share tech these days. I'd say at least a year.

Which is why I think DBFZ at EVO 2019 is gonna take you for a ride.
 
Seems people prefer to watch it than play it

5 million watch less than 2 million are engaged with the actual product. That's what Capcom actually care about, how many units sold. That's not to say they are not happy with the additional revenue stream but getting consumers engaged and buying the game and the DLC is where they want the money to be.
 

dmcAxle

Neo Member
Actually, I meant in terms of quality of play, not in terms of how much attention it gets.

It's a simple fact that the more time people get with the game,even if it's a franchise like Tekken where the core fundamentals don't change that heavily, it still takes a lot of time for players to really get to a proficient level at the game even with the ease in which we can share tech these days. I'd say at least a year.

Which is why I think DBFZ at EVO 2019 is gonna take you for a ride.

I actually read your post as saying "People will only play this game for a few months and then drop it "

Woops. Sorry. Misunderstood and didn't see that you were referring to Evo 2018.
 
I actually read your post as saying "People will only play this game for a few months and then drop it "

Woops. Sorry. Misunderstood and didn't see that you were referring to Evo 2018.
No worries :)

Actually, you said in your original post that the "The initial saiyans are the easiest characters supposedly". Is that actually something that's been said by the devs or is that conjecture?
 

dmcAxle

Neo Member
No worries :)

Actually, you said in your original post that the "The initial saiyans are the easiest characters supposedly". Is that actually something that's been said by the devs or is that conjecture?

Yep. An interview with the producer. They wanted to get the easiest character out of the way first and then start showing the harder ones.
 

Lucumo

Member
Name a fighting game that's had more ever in the entire history of people watching fighting games. I'll wait.

That obviously wasn't the point I'm making but Tekken in Korea was on channels like MBC Game which could have pushed it above 500k.
 
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