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[marmoka]

Did anyone see any good video review? I'm waiting for IGN's one, but it's not up yet.

Edit: OT title proposal: "Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse |OT| Tokyo's Bad Day"

 

[Taruranto]

Persona is anime garbage, so no

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[asagami_]

I really liked SMT IV, but it was a game with flaws. I know SMT IV: Apocalypse revamps the navigation map and the combat, but the only thing I don't know yet is how are the dungeons.

I don't expect them be something as complex like the SJ fantastic dungeons, but they need to be a little more challenging. Or at least, something closer to Nocturne lol.

 

[Peltz]

Atlus is probably the the most important entity in keeping traditional JRPGs alive at this point. Glad to see they created yet another quality game.

Their output has been prolific over the years.

 

[Pandora012]

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Why is there Persona in my SMT?

 

[Ozium]

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pre order cancelled

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not really :/

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

The sequel to one of my favorite games of all time. I can't wait to finally get to play this.

I don't know what they fixed, but it was a tedious mess to navigate by the end of the game, and flying was hidden behind a series of non-descript sidequests.

Which was a good thing. I loved that flying was hidden behind a sidequest that you'd only get from talking to demons.

 

[Bladenic]

Damn, better reviews than SMT4 so far! So sad I can't afford this and DQ7 at the moment, money nor time wise. Will probably cave and get it soon, though.

 

[mikeyvids]

So TWO super long, highly acclaimed JRPGs for 3DS coming out within weeks of one another.

 

[Magicpaint]

It's my main issue with the game, which I go over a bit in my own review. It's one of the main themes of the game so it doesn't really seem like a spoiler but, yeah, it was a bit too overbearing.

Yeah that doesn't sound...good. A lot of people don't like SMTIV's narrative, but I loved how it avoided tripe like that. I just hope it doesn't kill the atmosphere for me, at least. SMTIV's atmosphere was incredible.

Pretty stoked about the more complex dungeons though. SMTIV was a little lacking there, though it sometimes didn't feel like that to me as exploring a real destroyed Tokyo (something I felt was lacking in Nocturne) felt fantastic.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Love, love, love, loved SMT4. It was such a gem, so this is a Day 1 pick-up.

The timing for this one is unfortunate, though. DQ7 tomorrow, and that's going to take precedence for me (and the next couple months of my life).

 

[E_Darkness]

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They have to give Persona fan service DLC so they can give us the SMT fan service DLC.

 

[BlackJace]

Incoming banger

 

[Meh3D]

I remember salivating at the idea of a sequel. It was so painful pre-ordering having the date so far away (but at least we had a release date.)


I'm so looking forward to this. I loved the previous game and loved the sound track. I can not wait for this. I want it now.

 

[decoyplatypus]

Which was a good thing. I loved that flying was hidden behind a sidequest that you'd only get from talking to demons.

I thought that was pretty cool. I can't remember the last time a game surprised me with a feature like that.

 

[Mozendo]

Gonna pass on this, SMT IV was the worst mainline SMT game I've played with the music being the thing that I enjoyed the most, but the soundtrack in this game is horrendous.

I seriously hope IV isn't what the future games are going to play like

 

[Mediking]

What time skip? This game takes place during the Neutral route of the first game.

Plan on picking this up after Cold Steel 2.

OHHHHHH... I thought SMTIV: A was a time skip...

 

[Sumio Mondo]

Glad to hear it's an improvement over SMTIV in mechanics/balance and characters since those two aspects really knocked the game down for me. I'm getting a Soul Hackers vibe from the storyline though, kinda cheesy but very enjoyable cyberpunk/dystopian future story. Been a good while since I've played IV now so I'm definitely ready for another SMT game now, hopefully Deep Silver announce that Winter release date soon for those of us in Europe. Not played a JRPG in around half a year now either, I'll always make an exception for Atlus games though.

 

[pbayne]

Good scores. Most anticipated jrpg for me this year.

Time to dust off the 3ds.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Yeah that doesn't sound...good. A lot of people don't like SMTIV's narrative, but I loved how it avoided tripe like that. I just hope it doesn't kill the atmosphere for me, at least. SMTIV's atmosphere was incredible.

One thing I didn't mention in my review and that I'm sure several others glossed over was that I feel like random NPC conversations are more developed and worth going out of your way to engage in compared to SMT IV, as they do a good job of contributing to the atmosphere and conveying the general mood of the populace based on what's going on.

With the map improvements in Apocalypse, the mini-map will actually tell you if random NPC rooms have new dialogue. There are a bunch of really minor subplots throughout the game as you talk to the same NPC at different times, and I appreciated those.

 

[Soriku]

Gonna pass on this, SMT IV was the worst mainline SMT game I've played with the music being the thing that I enjoyed the most, but the soundtrack in this game is horrendous.

I seriously hope IV isn't what the future games are going to play like

wat

 

[Fandangox]

One thing I didn't mention in my review and that I'm sure several others glossed over was that I feel like random NPC conversations are more developed and worth going out of your way to engage in compared to SMT IV, as they do a good job of contributing to the atmosphere and conveying the general mood of the populace based on what's going on.

With the map improvements in Apocalypse, the mini-map will actually tell you if random NPC rooms have new dialogue. There are a bunch of really minor subplots throughout the game as you talk to the same NPC at different times, and I appreciated those.

Are the dungeons complex this time around, SMTIV's simple dungeons was one of my main gripes with that game.

 

[KZXcellent]

As someone who found the Law/Chaos and conversely

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stuff to be boring schlock will I enjoy the paths in SMTIV Apocalypse more? Having played Nocturne a few months before IV I found myself very disappointed with IV.

 

[Thoraxes]

I really loved SMT IV, so I am super excited for this. Was a little surprised to see so many reviews for it but pleased. Also glad to see its recieved well.

wat

That's my reaction too.

 

[Mediking]

As someone who found the Law/Chaos and conversely

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Johnathan/Walter

to be boring schlock will I enjoy the paths in SMTIV Apocalypse more? Having played Nocturne a few months before IV I found myself very disappointed with IV.

Everyone dislikes Jonathon and Walter. Everyone likes Isabeau and Burroughs and the Master Roshi wannabe guy that helped you do Fusions. That's the lore of SMTIV.

 

[Realeza]

Goddamn. SMTIV is already the best JRPG on current generation, and this looks even better. Can't wait.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Are the dungeons complex this time around, SMTIV's simple dungeons was one of my main gripes with that game.

Yeah. The word I used was "convoluted," since a lot about the dungeon exploration this time is about misdirection and dead ends, with a bunch of shortcuts spread throughout since they'd be unmanageable otherwise.

The new "Jade Dagger" mechanic adds to this, though I didn't like it that much. Attaching a timed meter to your ability to destroy specific walls only means that you have to backtrack if you manage to run the meter out before being able to clear the path. It wasn't all that fun and it's not like it made for any interesting puzzles.

The last dungeon is some Strange Journey level business (perhaps not that bad, but certainly evocative of that).

 

[True Fire]

As someone who found the Law/Chaos and conversely

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Johnathan/Walter

to be boring schlock will I enjoy the paths in SMTIV Apocalypse more? Having played Nocturne a few months before IV I found myself very disappointed with IV.

Yes, the routes are a really interesting take on morality. Instead of black and white morality it's more like red and green morality, with the option to go black or white if you hate yourself.

 

[decoyplatypus]

The last dungeon is some Strange Journey level business (perhaps not that bad, but certainly evocative of that).

I'm in.

 

[Maintenance]

Gonna pass on this, SMT IV was the worst mainline SMT game I've played [...]

I seriously hope IV isn't what the future games are going to play like

Same thoughts here, couldn't stand SMT IV, this will be a sale buy next year if I still remember this exists.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

One thing I didn't mention in my review and that I'm sure several others glossed over was that I feel like random NPC conversations are more developed and worth going out of your way to engage in compared to SMT IV, as they do a good job of contributing to the atmosphere and conveying the general mood of the populace based on what's going on.

With the map improvements in Apocalypse, the mini-map will actually tell you if random NPC rooms have new dialogue. There are a bunch of really minor subplots throughout the game as you talk to the same NPC at different times, and I appreciated those.

The NPC dialogue and world building was already one of my favorite aspects of SMT IV's storytelling, so this is music to my ears.

The last dungeon is some Strange Journey level business (perhaps not that bad, but certainly evocative of that).

Awww yeah!

 

[Mediking]

Oh, yeah... the memories are flooding back... I remember there being a very disturbing area in SMTIV where like

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you were seeing tortured people in rooms or something like that

 

[KZXcellent]

Everyone dislikes Jonathon and Walter. Everyone likes Isabeau and Burroughs and the Master Roshi wannabe guy that helped you do Fusions. That's the lore of SMTIV.

I actually hated Burroughs to be honest. Having her interject to let me know we learned a lot of things really broke my immersion. The other two are amazing though.

Yes, the routes are a really interesting take on morality. Instead of black and white morality it's more like red and green morality, with the option to go black or white if you hate yourself.

That's great to hear. The black and white stuff in SMT IV was so boring. Also Lucifer looks so much better in this.

 

[Magicpaint]

One thing I didn't mention in my review and that I'm sure several others glossed over was that I feel like random NPC conversations are more developed and worth going out of your way to engage in compared to SMT IV, as they do a good job of contributing to the atmosphere and conveying the general mood of the populace based on what's going on.

With the map improvements in Apocalypse, the mini-map will actually tell you if random NPC rooms have new dialogue. There are a bunch of really minor subplots throughout the game as you talk to the same NPC at different times, and I appreciated those.

Wow that sounds great. I actually thought the NPC conversations in SMTIV were done well as they'd often develop alongside the story, so if this is even better here then I'm very excited about that.

 

[.la1n]

Had this preordered forever, can't wait.

 

[dragonlife]

Been on a media blackout for this. Placing my pre-order on Amazon soon.

I haven't been this stoked for an RPG in a while. I'm so ready to dive back into this world.

 

[AerialAir]

Oh, yeah... the memories are flooding back... I remember there being a very disturbing area in SMTIV where like

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you were seeing tortured people in rooms or something like that

Yeah man, that was like, the best part of the game. Seriously. Okay, best part was getting to Tokyo for the first time but still.

Also, GOTY 2016 totally confirmed... at least if it does come out in Europe this year lol

 

[Mediking]

I actually hated Burroughs to be honest. Having her interject to let me know we learned a lot of things really broke my immersion. The other two are amazing though.

??? You hated Burroughs? She was like your only loyal trusty companion through-ought the craziness.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Everyone dislikes Jonathon and Walter. Everyone likes Isabeau and Burroughs and the Master Roshi wannabe guy that helped you do Fusions. That's the lore of SMTIV.

Jonathan is one thing, but hating Walter is something I can't abide by.

 

[marmoka]

Jonathan is one thing, but hating Walter is something I can't abide by.

Agree. Walter was a real badass.

 

[Magicpaint]

Jonathan is one thing, but hating Walter is something I can't abide by.

Yep. I love Walter. Jonathan is garbage though.

 

[Flying Toaster]

I actually hated Burroughs to be honest. Having her interject to let me know we learned a lot of things really broke my immersion. The other two are amazing though.

How is this even possible she is like KITT from Knight Rider.

 

[asagami_]

The last dungeon is some Strange Journey level business (perhaps not that bad, but certainly evocative of that).

 

[Fandangox]

The last dungeon is some Strange Journey level business (perhaps not that bad, but certainly evocative of that).

OH BOY

 

[Opa-Pa]

Not really surprised by the positive reviews, but it's still nice to see niche games like this get a good reception. SMT4 had its flaws but I still hae a great time thanks to the combat and atmosphere. From what I've seen in terms of narrative this one takes a direction I probably won't like, but the changes to demon affinities and fusions in general got me excited. It's my most anticipated games of this year.

Basically I have my expectations for the writing in check and everything else I'm excited for, so I'm sure I'll love it.

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This is what I meant with the expectations part lol. I'm glad mainline SMT is still alive, but at what price...

 

[Mediking]

Yeah man, that was like, the best part of the game. Seriously. Okay, best part was getting to Tokyo for the first time but still.

Also, GOTY 2016 totally confirmed... at least if it does come out in Europe this year lol

Jonathan is one thing, but hating Walter is something I can't abide by.

Agree. Walter was a real badass.

Yep. I love Walter. Jonathan is garbage though.

All I can say about "Hoy" Walter is that he was bland.

There is alotta disturbing stuff in SMTIV if you stop and think about whatcha going and doing.

 

[robotrock]

SMT4's first dungeon kicked my ass. I enable the easy mode and it still kicked my ass. There's no point for me to get this is there

 

[magnetic]

Probably the most minor detail possible, but I'm very happy that they replaced the high pitched beeps sound effects from the menus with more subdued ones.

 

[Realeza]

For anyone that has played the game, how does it compare in terms of difficulty to the initial hours of SMTIV?

 

[SirNinja]

Oh shit, I thought this was still a few months out for some reason. Going to have to reluctantly put this one on the wishlist as I go through DQ7. Good scores though!