Probably because in the OP it says even physical copies require Origin to play the game.
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SHOCKING NEWS: Mass Effect 3 will be an Origin-Works game.
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Probably because in the OP it says even physical copies require Origin to play the game.
ElectricBlue187
Member
Because Origin is required regardless?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Physical PC version still uses Origin
I've said it before: competition is good when the content creators/publishers are not the same as the content distributors. As soon as those two sides are coupled then it stops being about the service and starts being about who has what exclusives. Valve is also guilty of this, but their catalog is small enough that it hasn't mattered much. EA is going to be much more annoying.
But then I assume you wont buy it for console either, because I mean you wont find any features like that there.
MotorbreathX
Member
I'll buy it because it uses Origin.
toastyToast
Member
You're so edgy.
This. Valve has competition. The other companies are often offering better prices than Valve now so this is benefitting the consumer so that the consumer is saving money. I am not in the US, I go to the Origin website here in China and it says that the game is like 50 Euros. Why the fuck it is in Euros I have no fucking clue but that is what it is showing me. EA has not shown they can compete in services to Valve and have only been able to compete by catalog only. This hurts my convenience so EA being around provides no benefit to me.
The Librarian
Banned
Whoops. My apologies to everyone.
Nonsensically, retail copies of PC games are always cheaper than the download equivalents. Even if it just activates on Steam and lets you download it.
Oh, i'm not defending it. By all means, ban people from forums. Ban them from multi player if they're ruining it for others. But banning from single player when they've paid for that. Surely it's a court case waiting to happen?
I love Valve, but i thought they were already going down this route with the TF2 shop. The apologists all defend it, but it's no different to Oblivions Horse armour or Gears 3's weapon colour schemes. My policy is to just refuse to pay if it doesn't look like they've earnt the money. How can designing a decidedly low-poly gun and chucking some stats on it lead them to feel justified in charging everone £10 for it?
MotorbreathX
Member
I like to go against the grain. I'm a gamer goth.
When I see someone bitching about why Witcher 2 is on sale for cheaper on Amazon than Steam. Normally followed by complaining that its not Steamworks or why Steam sucks because it didn't price match it. Then I'll agree. I've seen it many times where the first question is "Does it activate on Steam", followed by No Steam, No Buy. Even in Witcher 2's case of every single store other than Steam being DRM-Free.
But Origin is something different. Its from a company who hasn't won any sort of goodwill in years or been anywhere near progressive for PC gaming. Their polices have reversed multiple times over the generation and nothing they put out really had any benefit over the competition. Like Ubisoft, a good example of this is how many stores, services, and forms of DRM they've used. They didn't even make the revoke tools work for every title with SecuROM.
I'm not talking about consoles though... I'm comparing one DD service to another one who offers a better service and value..
IIRC it wasn't in DA2 either (correct me if i'm wrong)
balladofwindfishes
Member
you can't earn horse armor just from playing the game. You can for 99% of the items in TF2's store.
dinosaur_hunter2
Member
Thank God I have both ME1 and ME2 on the Xbox. All my saves are there, so I'm gonna buy the 360 version. Is Origin so terrible as to make people not buy the game? I mean, Mass Effect is no ordinary game, it may well be the biggest game of this year. Giving up on buying it just because of Origin isn't too extreme?
scarybore
Member
To be honest I don't have any real problems with Origin being required if this is the case. Disappointed it's not available on Steam, but as the thread title insinuates, we all expected as much. Does Origin have download limits? There never seems to be a clear answer on this.
Because Bioware suffer from sheer muppetness.
Rodney McKay
Member
It's not madness. Using a crack for this game will probably be faster and easier than installing Origin.
I won't get to play the multiplayer (Oh noez!), but I also won't have to worry about another service I need to log-in to in order to play the games I rightfully own.
The reasons they give for why it's not on Steam is total BS. Steam makes it easy for customers to get patches and downloadable content. What EA is doing is making it harder for customers to get those things because EA are the ones that feel inconvenienced by Steam.
funkystudent
Member
Will you be able to import your steam ME2 save?
because if not that is completely fucked up.
Also any news on if there is a chance kingdoms of amalur reckoning will be on steam? its EAP game which are hit or miss when it comes to EA's steam boycott.
because if not that is completely fucked up.
Also any news on if there is a chance kingdoms of amalur reckoning will be on steam? its EAP game which are hit or miss when it comes to EA's steam boycott.
I H8 Memes
Member
Feel like I wasted my time with the first 2 since 3rd isnt going to be on Steam.
MotorbreathX
Member
And it's their right to put it out on whatever service they want. If Steam gets in the way of their DLC, patches, whatever then they don't have to go there. Here's an insider tip: people will still buy millions of copies and will take Origin with no problems.
The people bitching are a vocal minority of a vocal minority (GAF) of gaming.
Rodney McKay
Member
Save files are save files. They go to the Bioware folder in your My Documents folder (I think) regardless of where you got the game from.
They'll work just fine.
You think they will sell millions of copies of the PC version?
The problem is having to launch Origin to play the game. I already run Steam 24/7 and launch every game I own through it regardless of where I buy them. The dumbfucks at EA seem to think most people would have no problem running numerous clients at once with just a couple of games in each. I'm not going to have Steam launch Origin, either.
jediyoshi
Member
This is the only community that has bitching on the whole of the internets, I can confirm this.
speculawyer
Member
The Empire Strikes Back.
Rodney McKay
Member
Of course it's their "right" to do whatever they want with their shit.
It's also my "right" not to like what they are doing and not support it.
Yeah of course, just wanted to know because there were many who said that they'll buy it for console, but those have apparently different reasons.
Confidence Man
Member
After all the bullshit trying to update BF3 there's no way I'd deal with Origin again until they overhaul the download management.
CharmingCharlie
Member
Not all of us are skipping it "because it isn't on steam". I have ME 1 and ME 2 on steam and it would've been nice to have had ME 3 on there too. However that isn't the deal breaker, I am skipping Mass Effect 3 because I do not like Origin, I don't like what it does and I don't like how EA are using Origin. I sure as hell do not trust EA one little bit with regard to them being a DD company.
I had hoped to avoid Origin by buying the Retail version (see not fussed I couldn't have it on Steam) but after this news I promptly cancelled my order. I do not wish to use Origin and I won't let that POS on my PC. I don't know maybe I am old fashioned but I don't want EA "directly connecting with me" in fact I want EA as far away from me as possible.
I H8 Memes
Member
It certainly is there right to sell it wherever they want. And it's anyone's right to not buy it from Origin if they dont want to.
But come on man
Come on. Steam was going to get in their way of selling DLC and patching games? : D It's adorable you believe that. And it all happened right at the same time that they were launching Origin. How fortunate for EA!Yep. I wanted it on Steam, but I'm probably gonna get the retail N7 Edition now.
Stallion Free
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Does anyone else find it amusing that they have to always have FAQs now for their "big" releases just to answer the question "is it on Steam?"
Rodney McKay
Member
It's a good thing minorities are always wrong.
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
nooooo!!!!!
yeah, I've already succumb to the Origin overlord with BF3 so it doesn't bother me to much anymore. But I will miss all the nice Steam integration.
yeah, I've already succumb to the Origin overlord with BF3 so it doesn't bother me to much anymore. But I will miss all the nice Steam integration.
I think the rules were you have to sell your dlc through steam if you want to be on steam, and that was put in place to get the F2P MMOs on Steam. I don't know if I agree with the rules 100% but I do know from buying ME2 DLC through Bioware's site (which by the way both ME games and Dragon Age 1 are on Steam still) that I'm not going to bother with DLC unless it's on Steam. Such a huge hassle.
Having suffered through many terrible F2P games this winter due to the holiday event I can safely tell you that several games still use their own patching clients. My guess would be that Valve requires paid DLC to be available on their storefront.
Stallion Free
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But Bioware points are great! You can buy them in easy to use packages!
Rodney McKay
Member
What's wrong with buying Bioware Points off of the Bioware website and then using those points to buy the DLC off of the Bioware website?
It's all about making it easier for the consumer!
Ubisoft. EA at least still gives a shit about PC gaming and sees it as a viable market to which to sell games.
Also, honestly, Origin is not this evil thing that will harm your computer upon installation, there's just no practical reason to use it. It's not BAD, just useless compared to Steam.